[pray4pistils]

I've never done organic DWC but have done a hybrid chem + organic arrangement before. This put coco-based organic media up top and then hydroton clay balls down below. I flooded the bottom and hand watered from the top. A good amount of perlite in between kept the two zones fairly separate but with no hard barrier.

Results were decent, generally speaking. However, the challenge was pH control. With all that bio activity up top and running below, the reservoir (enriched with FloraNova, btw) was always fully innoculated. In and of itself, that was fine. However, the pH always rocketed upwards requiring heavy doses of acid bring it down. This threw off the NPK balance. I'm sure that it can be managed, but you'll have to learn the finer parts of exactly how.

As far as I'm concerned, true "organics" puts the plant in control of everything. I don't see that happening in DWC. Give it a whirl, though, and show us what you learn. My last comment is that if you want a real deal organic experience, you should go with a soilless mix. I personally recommend LC's Mix #1 + Recipe #1. It works stupendously well. I do cheat from time to time with CalMag+ foliar feeds, though. Purists will be outraged, but they're not my concern.

[SICE]

Ive been using organic nutrients on my grows this time around and it seems easier than using chem nutes.

hempy + blue planet Farmers prider + 100% perlite

No problems except it often seems like the nutrient solution adjusts the ph to around 7. Watering on mature plants has increased to every other day and this allows me to adjust the ph and to check ppm. I keep the ph at around 6.0 and the ppm at around 900 in mature flowering plants.

The quality of the buds seems to be top notch and the health of the plants are all positive. A watering schedule of- heavy feed, water, heavy feed, water.... Works great in keeping water conditions in order. Skipping nute and watering days has helped level off the ppm and keep it constant.

[Sunnyvale]

Nice thread!

[mtlakehydro]

what would you think of a hydroponic nutrient that was 100% organic that all of the minerals in the nutrient were processed already by beneficials completely . No need for benificials, no mess, no extra work, no smell, no clogged lines. 100 % recycled minerals from a 100% safe - 100% substanable 100% organic source. Any thoughts about this ?

[Joint Lock]

Being 2 kinds of reefer head ( MJ and aquarist)
Read this out and see my logic


No body tries to put anything in resi's for bacteria to breed on/in

I would say to even think about doing a hydroponic organic run .You would have to look at how reef tanks and saltwater tanks works. Fishtanks period really.

In a saltwater setup we use really pouris rock called (live rock) .This rock is called live rock due to we need it for (BIOLOGICAL BACTERIA). Most tanks call for 1-2 lbs per gallon. This rock would need to be made (Gravel, bio rings for fishtank, Few pot scrubbies like used in a wet dry filter system.

Anyways point im making is u would need a surface area (breeding bacteria) of a certain size to make everything work. The next thing would be a lot of dissolved oxygen. Followed by lots of flow or water movement. .

In my opinon nobody has even thought about using a pouris rock in say 10 gallon tubs. DWC Style . I think if someone was to use say gravel and a concrete @ 4/1 mixture of small softball sized man made pouris rock. Same way we make rock for SW aquariums.

After a good leech period of water changes on man made rocks . The ph would become stable PH of tap water in the man made rock (4-6 wks to come down to PH of 8) water soaks makes concrete stronger after setting out to dry 48 hrs

Without this pouris rock saltwater aquariums fail. We have sump filters . 1-2lbs of live rock is your biological bacteria breeding farm to keep everything good. (Not saying use live rock for saltwater aquarium. Just use its concepts of large stone that's super pouris)
A carbon source , air ,water flow

Just wondering if bacteria had something to breed on and live on followed by adequate dissolved oxygen followed by organic teas and decent water movement in say 20 gal rubbermade if it would work out. AS a reefer aquarist this has always been on my mind .
Using this method to improve stability of a hydroponic organics only DWC or EF table .

Venturi air input could kill 2 stones with one pump (See how a protein skimmer works or youtube venturie pump). Air and water movement . Thing would be how to keep roots out the intakes of a water pump or something. Tons of ideas run through my head. With all the installs I do . Saltwater custom tank builder glass or acrylic.


I could totally be off but doubt it . Being I know water better probably most of you do. Unless your in charge of 100-1000 gallon Large FW planted aquascaped tanks & SPS/LPS reef tanks every day. Being w/o this rock in SW aquariums u will fail in due time .Due to bad bacteria out grow good bacteria . Tank becomes unstable blah blah blah to waste not being broken down faster then it needs to be and bacteria are over taken by bad bacteria . Just like a organic garden just a little different

Like I said I could be wrong but this is gravel , sand and rocks purpose in large tanks . I would say a bag of 6 plastic pot scrubbies to each 5 gal DWC would work . But how to u make a DWC w/o foam coming from organic teas in DWC ? Hell I dunno lol

[purplestyle1]

bio sevia is a good bioponik fertilizer