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Old 05-08-2007, 04:34 AM
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Here it is. The other stuff 'No More Algae' from Petco didn't do anything.




Physan 20 in action. Foams up like crazy. FYI, Triple Action is the same thing. It just has an anti foaming agent and is not available in CA.



I thought my system was clean, but knew it wasn't because of the pH creeps on RO water. Look at what the foaming action has brought up in just an hour. Behold, the hydro nasties are dying and surfacing when I couldn't see anything.
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:02 AM
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i said once i say it again, go buy dyna-gro protekt, it wont cure your already fucked plants but it will fix your next run.
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:30 AM
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i said once i say it again, go buy dyna-gro protekt, it wont cure your already fucked plants but it will fix your next run.
Thanks for your advice with the added attitude, but your advice dont apply to me. My plants roots are perfectly fine at this point. I have caught this algae problem at its infancy and nothing that is suggested for root rot has taken care of it. I dont want to mask a problem. I want to know what the exact problem is, eradicate the problem and never get it again. Thanks, but no thanks.

And I have used most of the Advanced Nutrient lineup, including Barricade which is the same as your suggested Dyna Gro Protekt. They both are potassium silicate. Guess what, it didnt work for me in the past.

I believe I have been suffering algae blooms of brown slime algae. When an algae bloom starts, good fuckin luck. Ever heard of a red tide. That is an algae bloom that kills everything, especially in a lake.

Nothing stops it, except maybe this Physan 20. Will find out soon. Ph has been stable thus far and the foam keeps on bringing up crap.

If all the rest of you want a good product to protect your roots, prevent root rot and make your roots grow the craziest I have ever seen.

ROOT EXCELURATOR by House and Garden. Kinda new to the market. Around 80 bucks for the smallest bottle. It will catch on soon. It is the shit.
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:35 AM
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i think i have the same problem you have but mine is really bad. How should i get rid of it? I run advanced sensi pro 2 plus, voodoo juice, b-52, carbo load, sensizye, sweet leaf, big bud , overdrive, final phase. I just got some hydroguard. Will hydroguard prevent this from happening on my next harvest? I use RO water from the store.




If you want to save the run of plants you have now. Control temps, buy chiller if you have to. Dont even consider anything else until you do this. Then run Sensizyme to decompose all the dead roots so the rot dont have food. Then run SM90 and H2O2 for the rest of the crop. The nasties will be around, just gonna have to keep them at bay until the next crop. Then you can bleach everything down and run beneficials then or go sterile again.

Only run the 2 part nutes, no organics. Drop everything else. Especially the carbo load, that is just more food for the rot.

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Old 05-08-2007, 10:22 AM
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Ph holding steady still. Fingers crossed still. Funky stuff still floating up dead. Plants look perkier than they have been lately. All good signs so far.
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:33 AM
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Ph still steady. I am currently going to continue this grow with SM90 and H2O2. Looks like things are gonna work out. So, far Physan 20 gets the big thumbs up.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:52 AM
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excellant info richy. That physan is certainly a worthwhile product to keep handy. Thanks for all the info!
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:05 AM
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is there a reason you can't just use this Physan 20 in the nutrient soultion all the time like GH Florashield?
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:25 AM
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I think the stuff is pretty toxic. Most applications of it are for sterilization of your grow room or foliar/spray applications. I used just a few drops in a smaller amount of water when I was cleaning my res and the fingers I held the sponge with had some skin burn off. Also most people I talk to only use it for a few short hours. I used it for a couple days in one of my two dwc tubs and those plants didn't seem to like it much.




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Old 05-10-2007, 12:44 PM
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is there a reason you can't just use this Physan 20 in the nutrient soultion all the time like GH Florashield?
I used it for less than 24 hours and dumped the resevoir. It works quick. It has been a couple of days since I used it. Now I can see my girls may have been a little stressed by it. When you have a bad pH problem that starts showing nute deficieny problems is what it looks like. You dont want to keep them in this very long.

Now, pH is stable. With RO water, that tells me everything is OK, so far. I could go beneficials. If I did I would go with the Root Excelurator. I will say again that it is the shit. Not much info on it here. Its a newer product and is pricey. To play it safe, Im going to run this grow out with SM90 and 1ml per gallon of 35% H2O2 every other day. Plus, SM90 smells so good.

When you want to save a grow and have to disinfect, this is the ticket. It gets rid of everything including this damn algae which is a whole new ball game. THe amounts of H2O2 needed to kill the algae would of killed my plants and bleach is an obvious no, no. This is the ticket. It only cost $8.99. 5ml per 52 gallons, one bottle will last forever. Time to buy stock in this stuff. There aint enough info on it here. If I only would have known about it a year ago, how much work, money, frustration and agony I would of been saved from. Thanks to this wonderful site and Overgrow (RIP), I was doing everything right and always got root rot. My best theory now is that I always had this algae that suffocated my roots and then they rotted, hence the root rot. I had tried everything for root rot with no success. TO the point of swearing to never grow again. What a learning lesson. I felt compelled to post away with pics here when I would otherwise never do because of my extreme gratitude.

To the few in the beginning of this thread that mentioned the Physan, thank you. You dont know how much you helped me. "Pay it forward"


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