[richyrich]

The consensus in this thread is that Hygrozyme certainly plays a part in helping or even starting the brown algae. I have been following other threads where people are using the Hygrozyme in soil or non-recirculating rez's and are having great results. It has to be something do with the broken down material. It's herpe food. I, also, say in a recirculating rez use Hygrozyme with caution and only use it for a few days to do its job and then dump the rez. Refill rez with no Hygrozyme after. That is what I conclude after 2 years of battling this crap. I do not have it in my BioTerrra feed to waste room and now its gone in my mother recirculating NFT/drip system. Fingers crossed for now.

[ubet28]

Originally Posted by richyrich

The consensus in this thread is that Hygrozyme certainly plays a part in helping or even starting the brown algae. I have been following other threads where people are using the Hygrozyme in soil or non-circulating rez's and are having great results. It has to be something do with the broken down material. It's herpe food. I, also, say in a recirculating rez use Hygrozyme with caution and only use it for a few days to do its job and then dump the rez. Refill rez with no Hygrozyme after. That is what I conclude after 2 years of battling this crap. I do not have it in my BioTerrra feed to waste room and now its gone in my mother recirculating NFT/drip system. Fingers crossed for now.

Hey rich how did the zone workout i just picked some up and haven't used it yet. I am in water farms setup and i am not having the slime on rots but in my res i am getting white chunks and the water is vary cloudy and murky and pH is swinging up like a 1/2 point daily.

[richyrich]

In my opinion, Zone is the best product out there for keeping a sterile rez..

I don't know what your white chunks are. What are you adding to your rez. Without knowing anything else, I would dump that rez and then add plain water so you can h2O2 everything for a few hours. Then I would fill your rez as normal and add the Zone at 1.1 ml per gallon.

It's important to know what kind of water you are using. If its tap, you can get pH swings, but they shouldn't be to quick.

Another thing, if you have a single WaterFarm, the rez is not very big and that will cause quick pH fluctuations if you have a very thirsty plant. When this happens, the pH usually goes down though.

Give more info on what you have in your rez. and your water temperature.

[jarff]

Richyrich..do you use the Zone all the time or just occasionally?...I need to order from Ebay as I can,t find it anywhere within a hundred miles.Is it available in gallons.
*This thread sure has peeked a lot of interest..good to see ppl. finding out what may be the cause of their alage.....My grow is two weeks in and they have never looked so good.I corrected another problem which was feeding too much at the start of 12/12.On other grows within three weeks I had a lot of spotted leaf,which was caused no doubt from feeding too much.I hope this doesn,t show up this time.Been readin,other threads and am going with the "more is less" attitude.
Carry on ..keep us up to date on your results from your plants..
be safe
jarff

[richyrich]

Originally Posted by jarff

Richyrich..do you use the Zone all the time or just occasionally?...I need to order from Ebay as I can,t find it anywhere within a hundred miles.Is it available in gallons.
*This thread sure has peeked a lot of interest..good to see ppl. finding out what may be the cause of their alage.....My grow is two weeks in and they have never looked so good.I corrected another problem which was feeding too much at the start of 12/12.On other grows within three weeks I had a lot of spotted leaf,which was caused no doubt from feeding too much.I hope this doesn,t show up this time.Been readin,other threads and am going with the "more is less" attitude.
Carry on ..keep us up to date on your results from your plants..
be safe
jarff

I use Zone all the time in hydro now. Well, acutally, I have been for the last 6 months. I add 1.1 ml per gallon every rez change. Use through the whole grow. A 1 liter bottle will last a long time and costs around $20 US.

Mothers in hydro NFT/drip hybrid are still doing great.

The crop I was salvaging has made a remarkable turnaround. The roots were rotting from the smothering by the algae. I put them in 5 gallon buckets of the new Canna product line Bio Canna Bio Terra medium. Phenomenal growth when I expected them to die off. They were already in their 3rd week of flower. I looked at the bottom of the 5 gallon bucket and white pearly roots were already coming out of the bottom in only one week after the transplant. Amazing. I'm koo koo for coco now.

[Cranberry]

What a Club,

brown algae haters

I also have been plagued with this crud. Started when I decided to run organics in my buckets. What a great Idea that was..

I've been fighting this for almost a year and I feel I have a better handle on it. Organics can be used!!!! It just takes the proper bacteria. hmm

Get yourself a 39.whatever microscope and get all scientific on it, its freaky to say the least. I was blown away to see the activity, epidemic in the making.

I looked into the aquaculture industry to see how they deal with bacteria in fish farms, and digestion of cellulose. A whole different avenue that I have not seen mentioned in hydroponics. Many of us are taking organics and trying to run them in warm water with lots of dissolved oxygen and steady movement. Why am I not surprised that bad things come of this as well as good.

I really want to run organics for some reason despite the troubles I am having. So for this round I am trying something new. I am trying bacteria that will eat the organic matter converting it to CO2 and nitrogen. Hygrozyme is used to provide strong enzymes, and isn't killed off from calcium peroxide. Not that I can see in my 39.whatever microscope.

If God was in town wouldn't he grow from the ground?

I will keep posted to how well this is working. this might be the cure some of us are looking for.

[richyrich]

Yup, this is turning out to be quite a club. I never thought so many people would be experiencing the same problem. Before I got control of it, I thought I was the only person cursed with it. For years I searched for answers and was always given the same ol' root rot deal and what to do for it.

I have no problems and everything is quite easy for me now. Though, I am still interested in finding a way to beat the brown algae with beneficials. So far all the ones sold by hydro companies don't do squat crap. What bacterias are you speaking of. I too have looked toward aquarium and aquaponics chat boards for answers. Didn't really find anything to beat it off. Such as beneficial bacterias fending off bad bacteria (root rot). I just went after complete neutralization with Physan20 or containment with Zone.

Keep us posted on your work. This algae still intrigues me.

[Flasht2]

I borrowed your Physan 20 idea and put it to use. I'm still trying to make it through this cycle and for now at least it looks like I will be able to with only about 3 losses. (should have 17 or 18 out of 22) I doubt I have many beneficials left after adding the Physan to battle the algae but either way I'm going to keep trying to finish this out without a flush.

The directions also state that you can continue to add it once a week... if the plants continue to look ok I just might do that as a preventative... not sure yet.

I just wish I never had the higher temps in the first place and you can be damn sure I wont the next go-around. I also never get power outtages that last over an hour and of course I happened to have one that was very long... that didn't help any.

My current water temps now run from about 63f w/lights off, up to a max of about 73f lights on. The room iteself isn't far off of those temps.. the air gets higher but the a/c helps keep it under 83. I'd say that's an acceptable range. I will also do a better job of light proofing everything. I didn't think that it would be as important as it seems to be. Hell, I even had one bucket just circulating with absolutely nothing covering it. I thought it might be a good way for more bene's to enter the system but with my higher temps earlier on, I suppose it was just a potential breeding ground for that algae.

So, I am officially in the Brown Algae Haters Club! I await my hat and t-shirt.

FlashT

[richyrich]

Originally Posted by Flasht2

So, I am officially in the Brown Algae Haters Club! I await my hat and t-shirt.

FlashT

Ha, this is getting really funny now. We are gonna have to come up with a design and visit the silk screener.

Glad to hear it worked for you. You might consider the Dutch Master Zone to contain the algae. It has worked good for me. But, I think you will be the first to use the Physan weekly if you do. Do let us know how it goes at the haters club.

Oh, and on water temps; the algae was growing still when I had my chiller dead locked on 62F. Water temps don't really keep it away. Now if we talk about the root rot that is cause by bad bacteria, not algae, then water temps are very important. Just my experience.

[richyrich]

I forgot my update.

No signs of algae in my mother hydro system. It was heavily plagued until I Physaned it. Advanced nutes, Zone and a chiller and it has not come back. Hooray. Been nearly a week.