what is the high like on the puna? It sounds like and interesting plant to work with. What other pure hawaiian stock do you have to work with?

Well it is one our breeders absolute favourites bro, he has been breeding longer than most and has sampled the best. This strain he grows for himself i know that, so it must be pretty special, anything that survives that long in his gardens must be.

I will ask and post the details for you on the Puna and Hawaiians soon as i have a reply bro.

Peace, hhf

[zamalito]

Personally I'm really excited to see what private breeders do with this one after we start distributing it. I'm thinking that the puna will probably be a more impressive plant but I'm currently working with a large pool of the greengene's cherry bomb. I've already grown out about 20 males and 35 females that I tested for herm traits putting the males through light cycle stress and freezing their pollen. Cuttings from all of the females and some more seedlings are in my cold frame. After I select the females which perform the best both indoors and outdoors I will make the pollination. I'm still not exactly certain if I will turn it into separate indoor and outdoor lines yet we will see. I'm thinking this will be a really good line for outdoor growers in the southern us but not certain yet.

I would like to see a shorter flowering hybrid version of alot of the landraces. It may not always be possible.

Something crossed to a recessive true breeding indica that retains the up High, something that just glows. I mean being high on life and weed, not being stoned out of it.

That is exactly what i would like too. I'm working on a couple of projects with this goal, the one i;m really excited about is Colombian Gold (BSC) x Grapefruitbowl, I've just pollinated my selected F1 female with my chosen Colombian pheno F1 male and also used that same male to backcross to a Colombian Gold clone. I think I've lucked out and hit on something nice here as the two strains seem to have combined really well, the F1s are really beautiful. The other is a Mexican IBL from Cali x C99, about to start the F1s in a couple of weeks.

I'm currently working with a large pool of the greengene's cherry bomb. I've already grown out about 20 males and 35 females that I tested for herm traits putting the males through light cycle stress and freezing their pollen. Cuttings from all of the females and some more seedlings are in my cold frame. After I select the females which perform the best both indoors and outdoors I will make the pollination. I'm still not exactly certain if I will turn it into separate indoor and outdoor lines yet we will see. I'm thinking this will be a really good line for outdoor growers in the southern us but not certain yet.

Ive always been interested in Mr G's CB lines. I remember him talking about it often on OG, had many PM's with him about it and always stuck me that he had put a lot of love into those plants. Liked the guy a lot, got some great info from him over the years there. Mr G had some really practical ways of doing things, usually come from lots of experience. Think you have some great potential in those lines bro.

Peace, hhf

The other is a Mexican IBL from Cali x C99

Sounds cool BH, what's the story on the Cali MEX IBL? love to hear about those heirlooms, my favourites, some real useful genes in those lines from the oldgits, lol

Peace, hhf

[zamalito]

Also the redman skunk may have some potential for being an earlier landrace dominant line. I'm also working with a few pure mexican lines which have been fully acclimated to at the warmer half of the u.s

[masterlow37]

Originally Posted by zamalito

Personally I'm really excited to see what private breeders do with this one after we start distributing it. I'm thinking that the puna will probably be a more impressive plant but I'm currently working with a large pool of the greengene's cherry bomb. I've already grown out about 20 males and 35 females that I tested for herm traits putting the males through light cycle stress and freezing their pollen. Cuttings from all of the females and some more seedlings are in my cold frame. After I select the females which perform the best both indoors and outdoors I will make the pollination. I'm still not exactly certain if I will turn it into separate indoor and outdoor lines yet we will see. I'm thinking this will be a really good line for outdoor growers in the southern us but not certain yet.

Breeders Choice, glad to see the conservation passion & be safe on the travels !
1) Outside: Most of us here (in areas mentioned above) not having the luxary to grow outdoors past mid-late Nov. & some places no later than late Oct. because of hunting season, so can't grow the pure Columbians or Oaxacan but i'm sure some Mexicans would work, but i think alot of Mexi would resemble alot of the bagseed commercial thats been floodin the US (not saying its not good, just kinda common, generic !). I was wondering about early maturing sativa's from north Africa 30+ degrees latitude (like the pure breed Female Seed uses to make thier Maroc) instead of all the popular extreme southern African sativas. Also any other quality rare earlier finishing lanrace sativas like Celestral Temple Sativa or Burmese that actually makes indica like buds ?

2) My other thought is on indicas, most indicas that mature early are usually mold magnets (especially in the humid southeastern & northern territorys) so my thought is lanraces that aren't 100% indica. These are for references only, Not Spammin Here !!!
Some examples:
HTC ~ Sunshine (80% indica from Brasil)
Reef's ~ Kodiak Gold (60% indica)
World Of Seeds ~ Brazil Amazonia (75% indica, never heard of them though)
Something on the indica side of things w/good-great mold resistance ?

My Peace

[zamalito]

Walker, I didn't realize you were also a southerner. I'm always glad to see southerners here. According the Mr. G the cherry bomb is a pure maui waui line he stabilized for a cherry thai flavor and acclimated to kentucky(?) with open pollination. Anyways, I cannot wait to see your cross.

How much more of Luiz's stock do ya'll have? He had some other genetics of landraces and crosses with these landraces. He also had some other crosses of genetics that aren't any longer available. I am especially interested in the g13 x columbian cross Luiz had to compare to Reef's Love Potion. Maybe Luiz's has less hermies.

Keep working on Mr. Greengenes Cherry Bomb. And as many landrace south and central american varieties ya'll can find.

[zamalito]

We have now and will have most of luiz's seedlines. I never saw a g13 cutting in his mother plants and I personally saw them all. I will talk to him and see. I think I may have given him some of those g13 x g13 backcross. I have a bunch of his santa marta seeds.