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Old 03-29-2007, 08:14 PM #1
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problems with my coco grow

hello people got a recuring problem with some seedlings and small plants i am growing for mothers , some dp mazar , mr nice critical mass and shit and unknown origin mazar i am re vegging .
plagron coco
canna coco nutes
ec 1.0
ph 5.5
600w hps
temps 18 -25 celcius
humidity 50 - 80%

i have had droopy leaves with these plants a couple of weeks ago and flushed with ph water for 2 days and they seemed to recover ?
they had been growing pretty slow and had a light green colour with some yellowing to the tips of the bottom leaves . i was unsure as to the actual problem but put it down to nutrient lock ,the flush seemed to fix it , after a few days very good growth they seem to have gone down hill again ?
i am in a new country with very different climate , water supply and coco so it is like starting as a newby all over again . i have a few grows under my belt but with few problems so not that sure of myself with these troubles .
i have read the various links and threads on plant problems and cannot seem to put my finger on it , can anyone shed any light on this for me ?
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:50 PM #2
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Droopy from the top down usually means there is too much water and the plant is drowning. I think 100% coco is too heavy, but other growers here have success with it. I'm 50/50 coco/perlite. Kinda.
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:17 PM #3
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Hey wassup Skin

Nice starins you going there. I think you need to get your PH up. Coco's range is 5.8-6.2. Maybe a good flush with 6.2 to bring it up, then continue right away feeding.
There might be somthing else going on but I would get the ph in check first, as getting that right will tke care of alot. IMO theyr'e not overwatered. I feed 4 times a day in 100 percent coco and they love it. How often are you feeding? Do you have a way to check the run-off ec?
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Hia Skin

Yea, id have to agree with dalton, get your PH up a bit..
do you have an inlet and outlet to change the air??
try n get your temps around 75-85

i am currently running in 100% canna coco, they do get real heavy when watered and i have hardly any run off, i water from the bottom in a tray and from the top... i cannot stop em!!
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:23 PM #5
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hello and thankyou for the speedy replies ,
i am growing these from seed to get a few mothers on the go , so hopefully i will have plenty of clones to go at in the near future , they are in a wardrobe at the moment to try and regulate the temperature a bit as one minute it is +20 c here then it is -6 ? . i have got all the grow kit i will need for a while but i have moved to a new country and succeded in breaking my arm so i cannot build my new grow room till my plaster comes off .
there are no fans or extraction in there at present and it maybe does get a little stuffy , i just hope i can get them healthy again soon as i will be needing clones asap when my plaster is off .
i hand water ever other day and use just ph water once a week for a little flush , just to try and stop any build ups .
the humidity here is very low and i have had to put an ultra sonic pond fogger in the white bucket you can see to get it up what it is .
i will up the ph a bit and get back to you with the results
thanks again

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Old 03-30-2007, 12:47 AM #6
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In my grows, droopy leaves accompany nute lockout...from either bad pH or overfert...usually overfert in my case. With the low humidity and all that, I think you should consider watering daily, or cut the coco with perlite.

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Old 03-30-2007, 01:23 AM #7
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just been out flushed and increased ph to 5.9 , hope for the best !
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:34 AM #8
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In my grows, droopy leaves accompany nute lockout...from either bad pH or overfert...usually overfert in my case. With the low humidity and all that, I think you should consider watering daily, or cut the coco with perlite.

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The bad news is, your plants don't look so hot. The good news is I've had plants that looked just like that and today they look great. IMO, -VT- just nailed it. Water every day till you get good run off even in all coco. Also I suggest using smaller pot sizes next run The thing that has impressed me the most about coco this run with it is how small a pot you can use. I've had 1 in a 34 oz. container for 3 months now, veg thru flower @ +40 inches. Think about it, it's a great thing. Smaller pots = more plants in the same space. I started off putting everything in big pots too. No more. Big waste of space and coco IMO.

edit: I'm unfamiliar with canna coco nutes do they include cal/mag? Soul Rebel is right, it can make a world of difference.

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welcome to the coco forum skin, it's good to see you got your answer so quick. thumbs up to all the coco growers helping folks out, you guys make this place priceless as a coco growing resource.

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