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03-29-2007, 03:49 PM

Any help appreciated...

I have a Mazar x LowRyder cross..the f1's carried a 25% chance of AF from the LR male.
I in-bred it.
At F1..both parents were AF.
At F2..both parents were AF.
so I am going into F3 with a plant that has a 75% chance of being AF..

Now the problem I have is with a Non-AF. F3.

Does she still carry the genetic accumulator/bias..towards AF..and if so..
what % ?

Now..you thought that was bad..

at the end of her grow...didn't she hermie out and self pollenated..

so creating a "carbon copy" of herself..how on earth does that affect my AF equation?
I have exhausted all other avenues..and I think you are my last hope of help..does anybody have any idea?

sophisto · 03-29-2007, 07:38 PM

Wow do I have alot to learn......you made me feel stupid......LOL......

03-29-2007, 07:48 PM

i believe so at what percent i have no idea may bee i will do some reading...peace

fjällhöga · 03-29-2007, 08:02 PM

forget the percentage thing with grows under 50-100 beans per generation

go back to your f2 beans , start a big batch of them and use all AF males with all AF fems , thats the way of inheriting more diversity of the genes ...

fjällhöga · 03-29-2007, 08:04 PM

the only thing the hermi will show is a hermaphrodism trait... , dont breed hermies , unless you want to experiment with feminizing

03-29-2007, 08:26 PM

I am hoping to experiment with feminising..
too good an opportunity to miss.
Apart from her hermy-ing herself..
I also HOPE that I have caught her matching sister plant..with the hermie pollen from her...so I have my fingers crossed..
but they have just come off..so I cannot test grow for a few weeks to be sure.

I am not sure if I explain this right but..the hermie was not a genetic hermie..it was on a "treated" patch..and was not "mirrored" in any other part of the plant..or grow.

03-29-2007, 08:59 PM

fjällhöga..this is one of her heads. You can see some empty seed pods.
They are from the first time she pollenated herself..and have been harvested.
The new ones that she is making below..are from me repeating the process..and she has hermied again...so I am hoping my thoughts are correct..that she is conditional rather than genetic.

fjällhöga · 03-29-2007, 09:23 PM

im sorry i dont understand what you want to do with the hermie ...

Alex-F · 03-29-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fjällhöga

forget the percentage thing with grows under 50-100 beans per generation

go back to your f2 beans , start a big batch of them and use all AF males with all AF fems , thats the way of inheriting more diversity of the genes ...

OG bub · 03-29-2007, 09:35 PM

Good info FJ.

problem how I see it... you diddnt have an actual F1 to compare percentages to in the first place..
Mazar aint a IBL bro.

03-29-2007, 03:49 PM	#1
mossy Guest Posts: n/a	Can anyone solve this AF question for me please.. Any help appreciated... I have a Mazar x LowRyder cross..the f1's carried a 25% chance of AF from the LR male. I in-bred it. At F1..both parents were AF. At F2..both parents were AF. so I am going into F3 with a plant that has a 75% chance of being AF.. Now the problem I have is with a Non-AF. F3. Does she still carry the genetic accumulator/bias..towards AF..and if so.. what % ? Now..you thought that was bad.. at the end of her grow...didn't she hermie out and self pollenated.. so creating a "carbon copy" of herself..how on earth does that affect my AF equation? I have exhausted all other avenues..and I think you are my last hope of help..does anybody have any idea?
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03-29-2007, 08:02 PM	#4
fjällhöga HazeAddictedFanatic Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gardens Posts: 3,569	forget the percentage thing with grows under 50-100 beans per generation go back to your f2 beans , start a big batch of them and use all AF males with all AF fems , thats the way of inheriting more diversity of the genes ... __________________ "Art arises when the vision of the artist and the manifestation of nature agree to find new shapes" "As the most important basic input in agriculture, the seed should be of very good quality, and the most vital attribute of that quality is viability" premium seeds for premium people - non feminized @ Seedboutique ! Mountain High Seeds Helpdesk
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03-29-2007, 08:04 PM	#5
fjällhöga HazeAddictedFanatic Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gardens Posts: 3,569	the only thing the hermi will show is a hermaphrodism trait... , dont breed hermies , unless you want to experiment with feminizing __________________ "Art arises when the vision of the artist and the manifestation of nature agree to find new shapes" "As the most important basic input in agriculture, the seed should be of very good quality, and the most vital attribute of that quality is viability" premium seeds for premium people - non feminized @ Seedboutique ! Mountain High Seeds Helpdesk
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03-29-2007, 08:26 PM	#6
mossy Guest Posts: n/a	I am hoping to experiment with feminising.. too good an opportunity to miss. Apart from her hermy-ing herself.. I also HOPE that I have caught her matching sister plant..with the hermie pollen from her...so I have my fingers crossed.. but they have just come off..so I cannot test grow for a few weeks to be sure. I am not sure if I explain this right but..the hermie was not a genetic hermie..it was on a "treated" patch..and was not "mirrored" in any other part of the plant..or grow. Last edited by mossy; 03-29-2007 at 08:35 PM..
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03-29-2007, 09:23 PM	#8
fjällhöga HazeAddictedFanatic Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gardens Posts: 3,569	im sorry i dont understand what you want to do with the hermie ... __________________ "Art arises when the vision of the artist and the manifestation of nature agree to find new shapes" "As the most important basic input in agriculture, the seed should be of very good quality, and the most vital attribute of that quality is viability" premium seeds for premium people - non feminized @ Seedboutique ! Mountain High Seeds Helpdesk
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03-29-2007, 07:38 PM	#2
sophisto ????WHY???? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SO CA Posts: 607	Wow do I have alot to learn......you made me feel stupid......LOL......
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03-29-2007, 07:48 PM	#3
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	i believe so at what percent i have no idea may bee i will do some reading...peace
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03-29-2007, 08:59 PM	#7
mossy Guest Posts: n/a	fjällhöga..this is one of her heads. You can see some empty seed pods. They are from the first time she pollenated herself..and have been harvested. The new ones that she is making below..are from me repeating the process..and she has hermied again...so I am hoping my thoughts are correct..that she is conditional rather than genetic.
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03-29-2007, 09:35 PM	#10
OG bub ~Cannabis-Resinous~ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: in the woods by the sun Posts: 1,949	Good info FJ. problem how I see it... you diddnt have an actual F1 to compare percentages to in the first place.. Mazar aint a IBL bro. __________________ Resin Enhancer Founder: HillTempleCollective HTC will focus on Medical Cannabis seed production first, recreational Cannabis seed production afterwards. If the two happen to swim in the same pool, then, beautiful. in theory, there is no difference between practice and theory... In practice, there is.. Tao Te Ching
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