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Old 03-07-2007, 07:05 PM #1
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monkeys' juice drips on coco just b'cuzz

As some of ya may already know I'm one of the few the proud doing the new Monkey Juice for a test run and since that title was taken (good thread check it out)....there ya go. I use B'cuzz coco cuz it's already expanded/rinsed etc...and after years of soak...rinse...drain...rinse.. .I feel lazy lol. The only time I did try to rinse it, the runoff was crystal clear. Negative: the fibers are too fine. Next run I'm thinkin of the coarser sunleaves block as it has a nice mix of chunks and longer fibers. Chunks were trialed and by themselves do not seem well suited to handwatering but probably great for drip, a mix would be perfect IMO.

I got the Monkey Juice Veg A+B and the Bloom A+B, along with carboload, B-52, and already have Rhizotonic, PK 13-14, LK, and Sweet -a few of which may or may not be used.

First time starting seed in coco...

As a rule i tend to start seed in either soil or rockwool, but this time decided to give it a go in coir from the start. So far there are slight signs of salt toxicity. Hopefully these will go away as the medium is rinsed with further waterings and the seedlings get larger. Strains are: F13, Calio (DP), THS Purps, and a test run for Steel Savage's BKxBS (check out his awesome blockhead thread for more detail).

So far the clones seem to like it

a week later:

Running 1050 ppm. Concentration/strength is roughly equivalent to Canna.

Clones are: V3 deez, BM pebbles, and Swazi sat and 50/50

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right on nice looking setup!

i'll be running f13 in coco too very shortly.
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Old 03-08-2007, 07:03 AM #3
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Awesome SEEDY I'm real excited about the F13. I got one of those crinkle types so far, as expected...

The most vigorous so far are the BKBS, with F13 a close second, F13 germed first though (a matter of 12-24 hr difference). Purps have quite a few freaks, took the longest to germ, already clearly mostly Sat. dom. and Calio is stretchy, with a couple shorter ones.

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Old 03-08-2007, 07:23 AM #4
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Good to see ya back in action...
Lookin' forward to seeing the DP Cali-O...I'm gonna run Hemcy's soon
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Hey aeric,

like VT said, good to see you back in action. looks like a large selection, it's gonna be fun

i hear you on the seed popping, coco isn't ideal for sprouting beans, i know it works for some, but i find RW cubes easier to start up seeds in.
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Old 03-11-2007, 08:47 PM #6
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Thanks VT and Gauis. That Hemcy Calio sounds good...I'll be watchin for that. Gauis this is probably going to be the only time I do lings in coir. I knew it wouldn't be the best but had to prove it to me own eyes. Nonetheless they do look ite. (edit: sorry to confuse, they were sprouted in rockwool then put immediately in coir, by "starting seeds in soil or rw" [stated above] i really meant for the first 4-6 weeks until they can be cloned )

Those purps are just freaky....but i don't rule them out yet huh uh. With only 3-4 nodes they have started sidebranching, ya gotta love wall to wall reflectix! This little box is the best for seeds and clones. By the way if you noticed the numbers don't add up it's cuz some of the lings are in the mother box.

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As an aside I'm liking the idea of traditional Bonsai soil more and more for bonsai moms....

It wont break down into an inpenetrable, oxy starved, salty brick after 12-18 months like peat mixes do, but you get what u pay for, it's expensive.
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A Calio with a few double serrations....remind anyone of anything?
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One of the Purps started alternating at the 3rd node, so it looks more like a clone than a seedling, you can clearly see the cotyledons still hanging on at the bottom.



Toward the top one of the fans grew above the lateral branch instead of below.
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