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NG2k · 02-11-2007, 01:38 PM

Welcome all to my Northern Lights Organic Stealth Grow

The setup:
Grow space of 2’(w) x 1.5’(d) x 4.5’(w).... totalling 3 sq.ft
Lighting is currently a 70W HPS and an extra 80W of CFL’s giving me 50W/sq.ft. but yesterday I bought a 150W HPS which I will use through flower instead of the rest.
Medium is bio-bizz allmix with extra perlite and vermiculite.
Nutes are currently bio-bizz bio-grow and bio-bloom
Ventilation is using an AKASA 120mm PC fan as my exhaust and a PC fan to vent room. Even with all 5 bulbs on temps stay at about 24-28*C during 24/0.

The story:
This is only my second grow but this time round I have tried to use a few of the more advanced techniques just to get some experience under me belt and try something new. I had 3 nirvana northern lights seeds and I vegged them until I found a girl. I was left with 2 boys and a girl so I kept her vegging for about 24 weeks (due to me being lazy and having trouble with cloning) before axing her.

My first batch of clones (wick cloner) died after rooting and the second batch (also in wick cloner) didn’t root. The third (time lucky) batch was a really half-assed effort and I just took some cuttings and put them straight into soil in a seed tray insert. yet these came out the best

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I took 15 cuts off the mother, 4 died immediately after being cloned. Then 3 more died whilst rooting…. Being left with 8, I transplanted up and after a week or so of vegging I chose the best 6 of the bunch and transplanted up again to a mix of 80% All-mix 20% Perlite.

I vegged a week and a half more before transplanting to their finishing pot. After finding out that nuts and seeds contain lots of micronutrients and being in an area with very “hard” water (south UK) some of these can get “locked out”. So I did some research into it and what seeds/nuts contained what and how much etc. and talking to a few growers in chat I finalized these plans and decided to make a little nut/seed recipe to add to my soil….. and make a little experiment of it as it goes.

2 of the clones are kept as a “control” in 80% all-mix 15% Perlite 5% Vermiculite
2 of the clones are in the same mix but with an added low mix of the “recipe”
And 2 of the clones are in the same mix but with a higher mix of the “recipe”

The nut/seed mix was ground up as best as I could but sesame seeds are very small and not all got crushed. I did not realise that they were still viable seeds and that they hadn’t been cooked…. 3 days on when the soil started lifting up round the edges of the pot I then realised when I saw hundreds of little sesame seedlings

. still the experiment goes on I’ll just kill as many as I can.

They are now 3 weeks old and ive topped and LST’d many times and it shouldn’t be too long before I add the screen and flip the switch to 12/12. just gotta install that 150W HPS first.

The Pics:

The Space:

The Mother:

The Cuttings:

The Clones Today:

I don’t think ive missed anything out and ive try to include all the pics I can of the mother, the rooting clones and during vegging up until present. Any questions…. Ask away!

Peace NG2k

smokeymacpot · 02-11-2007, 02:28 PM

did you use any root hormone on the cuttings ?

NG2k · 02-11-2007, 02:45 PM

nope.... and apart from the second batch (due to having no dome) they all rooted fine and within 10 days.

stealthsheild · 02-12-2007, 11:53 PM

cool man

WAMEN · 02-13-2007, 12:10 AM

ill be following this one mate!! i was like LOL reading about the little sesame sprouts hehehe.. good luck with your experiment man

peace

waydee · 02-13-2007, 05:03 PM

Looking beautiful! theres going to be a little forest in there soon :>

What sort of screen are you going to use in there?

02-13-2007, 08:57 PM

Reading about the added sprouts made me laugh too. Interested to here about the plan though as i have hard water here and am using bio bizz.
Good luck with the grow!

NG2k · 02-13-2007, 10:31 PM

wamster buddy, thanks for dropping by... yeh the extra unwanted sprouts did make me feel a bit of a dope... i was concentrating soo hard on gettin the right ratio of all the nutrients that i forgot they mite germ! lol

waydee well i have got a metal grid from one of those cheap "greenhouses" you get in robert dyas. the spacing is about 40mm (1.6") apart which should be great, it will cover wall to wall and i might dip it in the middle to create a canopy that will mimick the lights "shape".

neil thanks for dropping by.... when i was vegging the mother plant i got a lot of macroelement deficiencies, particularly mg which epsom salts never seemed to fix so i looked for alternatives. will keep you posted

peace
NG2k

NG2k · 02-13-2007, 10:45 PM

update!
well today i installed the 150W HPS i bought last week and fitted in the reflector. i found the reflector in a hydro shop for only £5 because one of the corners was broken. 2 bolts later and its as good as new! i am very lucky and very pleased, if i was designing my own reflector i couldnt have asked for a better fit! space is slightly limited here so that meant a great deal!

the unwanted sproutings have started to slow up although what i think was a mutated pumpkin seedling did break the surface 2 days ago but it was long gone! those seeds were definitely crushed up enough!

anyway.... heres some pictures of the new lamp. temps sticking at 27*C, if it gets any higher i will add some glass and make a cool tube (ish) arrangement.

Peace

mtnjohn · 02-13-2007, 10:54 PM

hey NG2K, thats a nice clean setup...and very similar to my own

the 150hps is a nice light and i think you will do well with it
i'll be taking a seat for this one
mj

heres my setup

02-11-2007, 01:38 PM	#1
NG2k Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 326	NG2k’s Northern Screen of Organic Green Welcome all to my Northern Lights Organic Stealth Grow The setup: Grow space of 2’(w) x 1.5’(d) x 4.5’(w).... totalling 3 sq.ft Lighting is currently a 70W HPS and an extra 80W of CFL’s giving me 50W/sq.ft. but yesterday I bought a 150W HPS which I will use through flower instead of the rest. Medium is bio-bizz allmix with extra perlite and vermiculite. Nutes are currently bio-bizz bio-grow and bio-bloom Ventilation is using an AKASA 120mm PC fan as my exhaust and a PC fan to vent room. Even with all 5 bulbs on temps stay at about 24-28C during 24/0. The story:* This is only my second grow but this time round I have tried to use a few of the more advanced techniques just to get some experience under me belt and try something new. I had 3 nirvana northern lights seeds and I vegged them until I found a girl. I was left with 2 boys and a girl so I kept her vegging for about 24 weeks (due to me being lazy and having trouble with cloning) before axing her. My first batch of clones (wick cloner) died after rooting and the second batch (also in wick cloner) didn’t root. The third (time lucky) batch was a really half-assed effort and I just took some cuttings and put them straight into soil in a seed tray insert. yet these came out the best . I took 15 cuts off the mother, 4 died immediately after being cloned. Then 3 more died whilst rooting…. Being left with 8, I transplanted up and after a week or so of vegging I chose the best 6 of the bunch and transplanted up again to a mix of 80% All-mix 20% Perlite. I vegged a week and a half more before transplanting to their finishing pot. After finding out that nuts and seeds contain lots of micronutrients and being in an area with very “hard” water (south UK) some of these can get “locked out”. So I did some research into it and what seeds/nuts contained what and how much etc. and talking to a few growers in chat I finalized these plans and decided to make a little nut/seed recipe to add to my soil….. and make a little experiment of it as it goes. 2 of the clones are kept as a “control” in 80% all-mix 15% Perlite 5% Vermiculite 2 of the clones are in the same mix but with an added low mix of the “recipe” And 2 of the clones are in the same mix but with a higher mix of the “recipe” The nut/seed mix was ground up as best as I could but sesame seeds are very small and not all got crushed. I did not realise that they were still viable seeds and that they hadn’t been cooked…. 3 days on when the soil started lifting up round the edges of the pot I then realised when I saw hundreds of little sesame seedlings . still the experiment goes on I’ll just kill as many as I can. They are now 3 weeks old and ive topped and LST’d many times and it shouldn’t be too long before I add the screen and flip the switch to 12/12. just gotta install that 150W HPS first. The Pics: The Space: The Mother: The Cuttings: The Clones Today: I don’t think ive missed anything out and ive try to include all the pics I can of the mother, the rooting clones and during vegging up until present. Any questions…. Ask away! Peace NG2k __________________ If you're frightened of dyin' and you're holding on... You'll see devils tearing your life away. But.............. If you've made your peace, Then the devils are really angels Freeing you from the earth..... My Northern Screen of Organic Green Last edited by NG2k; 02-11-2007 at 09:08 PM..
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02-11-2007, 02:28 PM	#2
smokeymacpot Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,925	did you use any root hormone on the cuttings ?
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02-11-2007, 02:45 PM	#3
NG2k Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 326	nope.... and apart from the second batch (due to having no dome) they all rooted fine and within 10 days. __________________ If you're frightened of dyin' and you're holding on... You'll see devils tearing your life away. But.............. If you've made your peace, Then the devils are really angels Freeing you from the earth..... My Northern Screen of Organic Green Last edited by NG2k; 02-11-2007 at 09:08 PM..
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02-12-2007, 11:53 PM	#4
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02-13-2007, 12:10 AM	#5
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02-13-2007, 05:03 PM	#6
waydee Amateur knob-twiddler Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Way up North Posts: 446	Looking beautiful! theres going to be a little forest in there soon :> What sort of screen are you going to use in there?
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02-13-2007, 08:57 PM	#7
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Reading about the added sprouts made me laugh too. Interested to here about the plan though as i have hard water here and am using bio bizz. Good luck with the grow!
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02-13-2007, 10:31 PM	#8
NG2k Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 326	wamster buddy, thanks for dropping by... yeh the extra unwanted sprouts did make me feel a bit of a dope... i was concentrating soo hard on gettin the right ratio of all the nutrients that i forgot they mite germ! lol waydee well i have got a metal grid from one of those cheap "greenhouses" you get in robert dyas. the spacing is about 40mm (1.6") apart which should be great, it will cover wall to wall and i might dip it in the middle to create a canopy that will mimick the lights "shape". neil thanks for dropping by.... when i was vegging the mother plant i got a lot of macroelement deficiencies, particularly mg which epsom salts never seemed to fix so i looked for alternatives. will keep you posted peace NG2k __________________ If you're frightened of dyin' and you're holding on... You'll see devils tearing your life away. But.............. If you've made your peace, Then the devils are really angels Freeing you from the earth..... My Northern Screen of Organic Green Last edited by NG2k; 02-13-2007 at 10:47 PM..
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02-13-2007, 10:45 PM	#9
NG2k Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 326	update! well today i installed the 150W HPS i bought last week and fitted in the reflector. i found the reflector in a hydro shop for only £5 because one of the corners was broken. 2 bolts later and its as good as new! i am very lucky and very pleased, if i was designing my own reflector i couldnt have asked for a better fit! space is slightly limited here so that meant a great deal! the unwanted sproutings have started to slow up although what i think was a mutated pumpkin seedling did break the surface 2 days ago but it was long gone! those seeds were definitely crushed up enough! anyway.... heres some pictures of the new lamp. temps sticking at 27C, if it gets any higher i will add some glass and make a cool tube (ish) arrangement. Peace __________________ If you're frightened of dyin' and you're holding on... You'll see devils tearing your life away. But.............. If you've made your peace, Then the devils are really angels Freeing you from the earth..... My Northern Screen of Organic Green* Last edited by NG2k; 02-20-2007 at 10:00 PM..
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02-13-2007, 10:54 PM	#10
mtnjohn Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,365	hey NG2K, thats a nice clean setup...and very similar to my own the 150hps is a nice light and i think you will do well with it i'll be taking a seat for this one mj heres my setup Last edited by mtnjohn; 02-18-2007 at 07:25 PM..
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