[Elevator Man]

Some of you may remember this monster Thai stick from a while back:



I've salvaged a few seeds over the last few months, both from the stick, and from the contact I got it from (they didn't need them and I did!), and I'm attempting to germinate some batches now - with mixed results. Although they all look super-healthy (I was ruthless in the selection), they're very dry, and are taking ages to split and sprout. I've germinated seeds of my own crosses at the same time, and they have all passed 100%, and already been planted - these are still going. However, slowly but surely, some are coming out of suspended animation. Assuming I can get a few of these going, I'm going to attempt to keep a diary here, as I'm sure it will be interesting to many.

Unavoidable limitations:

1. I have very limited space for vegging plants, due to security issues, and pure sativas will have to be brutally constrained. The Malawi Gold I have is much more friendly height-wise than many sativas, and is quite happy to bush out. The Thais may not be so keen, so this is as much an experiment on sativa management as anything else!

2. I have lots of other seedlings growing out, so I can only do a few of these right now.

3. They have to fit in with my main grow, currently on 3rd week of flower - so they may or may not get flowered for a while.

Given the length of time they do take to flower, this could be a long, sporadic thread, but I think it's worth it. The main goal really will be to find a short, stocky male that I can use to produce some more seeds - a lot more. Then there'll be no viability issues to worry about, and there'll be enough seeds to spread around. Which I guess leads me to the first caveat - please, no-one PM me for any of these seeds - there aren't enough. If the experiment works, then we'll see...

So without further ado, let's welcome the first baby to the world of artifical lighting...

[InNvBoarder]

Welcome ill definitly be checkin on on ya from time to time. How many days does it take for the Thai Stick to finish?

[ThaiPhoon]

Hello Elevator Man!

I am interested to see how these go indoors. The Thai I have here outdoors is really rubbery! I have some 90 degrees bends in one! Don't be afraid to tie them over for growing indoors!

Chok Dee!

Hey elevator man. Good to see you got one/them to germ. I cant wait to see the results but i guess that might take a while
Training is a very good idea will help with sat's yield indoors especially.
Good luck with the grow!

[smokeymacpot]

Originally Posted by InNvBoarder

Welcome ill definitly be checkin on on ya from time to time. How many days does it take for the Thai Stick to finish?

a LONG time!

[smokeymacpot]

Originally Posted by Elevator Man

Some of you may remember this monster Thai stick from a while back:



I've salvaged a few seeds over the last few months, both from the stick, and from the contact I got it from (they didn't need them and I did!), and I'm attempting to germinate some batches now - with mixed results. Although they all look super-healthy (I was ruthless in the selection), they're very dry, and are taking ages to split and sprout. I've germinated seeds of my own crosses at the same time, and they have all passed 100%, and already been planted - these are still going. However, slowly but surely, some are coming out of suspended animation. Assuming I can get a few of these going, I'm going to attempt to keep a diary here, as I'm sure it will be interesting to many.

Unavoidable limitations:

1. I have very limited space for vegging plants, due to security issues, and pure sativas will have to be brutally constrained. The Malawi Gold I have is much more friendly height-wise than many sativas, and is quite happy to bush out. The Thais may not be so keen, so this is as much an experiment on sativa management as anything else!

2. I have lots of other seedlings growing out, so I can only do a few of these right now.

3. They have to fit in with my main grow, currently on 3rd week of flower - so they may or may not get flowered for a while.

Given the length of time they do take to flower, this could be a long, sporadic thread, but I think it's worth it. The main goal really will be to find a short, stocky male that I can use to produce some more seeds - a lot more. Then there'll be no viability issues to worry about, and there'll be enough seeds to spread around. Which I guess leads me to the first caveat - please, no-one PM me for any of these seeds - there aren't enough. If the experiment works, then we'll see...

So without further ado, let's welcome the first baby to the world of artifical lighting...

cool, what light are you going to use?

you dont need much space to veg thai, it will grow only slightly taller than an indica. when you flip to 12/12 they will stretch like crazy, im talking stems managing to stretch a good 5-10cm in one or two days and they can keep on stretching throughout flower. 6ft is no problem for these guys!!
as for you trying to breed them, i dont fancy your chances!!! many plants, if not all will hermi. you may be able to polinate one plant from one that went hermi, dunno if that will give you m/f seeds tho.
best thing is flower it and pick off the stalks that come out as male, you dont get many, maybe one or 2 male stalks per plant

oh and ive got a couple a month ahead of you



its a thai which popped around the start of january, and the pic was taken maybe 2 weeks ago before it went into 12/12, where it doubled hieght in a couple of nights

if you need to know anything, ask away!

[Elevator Man]

Wow - fantastic. Good to see I'm not alone in my endeavour! For growing out/vegging I'd just use my normal fluoros - for the rest I'd put them in the main room, which is 1200W - the Malawi Gold is fine in there right now, but it's not a stretcher. I will probably have to bend something soon, but I'm not panicking yet. I have at least six feet headroom if I need it, but I'd really rather keep them to four feet or so.

I used some primitive LST techniques on the Malawis, and they worked fine, but that kind of growth rate you mention could be tricky:



One thing I thought of was growing a 'spiral' plant - I have some circular grow supports that fit in the pots, and thought I might be able to thread the plant around it as it grows...

[smokeymacpot]

well its good that you have the height if needed, but i suspect if you trained it well (i like the spiraling idea) you would keep it under control. my first go they were just left to do whatever they wanted and reached 5-6ft.
do you have any MH in your grow room? or one of those bulbs with added blue light? i wonder if more blue light would lessen the stretching? but whatever... you have more light than me so you will probably do better. and i'll enjoy looking at your updates.

heres a link to a thai grow, im sure u will enjoy looking at it. the pictures are very accurate as to how the plant grows.

https://www.hempcity.net/travelreport...nse/index.html

[Elevator Man]

I don't have MH at the moment, but I was thinking of using one for the next veg period. I can't install a rotating light mover unfortunately, due to the ceiling joists being in just the wrong place, otherwise I'd be running a mix of HPS and MH right now. With them fixed, I don't want to have half the room in HPS and half in MH - too confusing.

But I will try the spiral plant thingie - the supports I mentioned can be seen in this pic from a previous grow:

[glock23]

I would start them on 12/12 immediately to keep the height and flowering time down. You could just put your seedlings right into the flowering chamber once they have a week or two to veg.