[zamalito]

Ok, I'm doing a large batch of flodica indoors which are about 7 week into 12/12 for breeding purposes and unexpectedly found this strain to be almost identical to blue velvet. The smell is almost dead on for blue velvet's sweet an earthy odor and I'm fairly certain it'll have the same pine forest soil flavor that is my atf flavor from the bb series. It even looks like most will have the same columnar super dense rock hard but foxtailed bud structure. And about half have the same green topped/ purrple backed leaves. The resin production is much improved and I don't doubt that these will show a more indica lean than the blue velvet but at least at this juncture they seem virtually identical to blue velvet and its definitely 100x closer to bv than anything else I've seen come from dj. The bv was my favorite and what I feel to be the most distinct and exotic line from the 5 original strains of the bb series although my only experience with blue heaven was a poorly done knockoff by reeferman from back when he did knockoffs for emery. I actually considered the bv buzz to be more euphoric nonedgey yet energetic than any other member of the bb series so let's hope the flodica holds up. Though the much increased resin content gives me a feeling that the buzz will be more sedative but if the odor and flavor remain this close to the bv hopefully much of the buzz of both comes from those aromatic compounds and we just have a blue velvet on steroids. I'll keep you posted. It looks like flodica is an 11 week flower from seed also like the bv though the bv was supposed to be 6-7 weeks and I'm not sure what flodica is supposed to be. Anotjer side note the bv I used to grow was actually a dutch passion. I never grew dj's version of that particular line either.

[eskimo]

hawe a nice one

[Elevator Man]

Zamalito - one of my Flos, the purple#2, sounds very similar. The aroma on pre-flowers is very earthy, with dark chocolate and coffee aromas, but with a strong mushroomy, rich compost undertone. It's very indica-looking in leaf-shape, but the small harvest I cropped showed it to be a similar stimulating high I'd expect from the Flo family - however, it tastes nothing like the other two, which are more in the blackcurrant/berries/lavender range.

I had to flower her very early, and so the yield was abysmal, but it was extremely resinous, and a superb high. I have a nice clone vegging out of it now - I'll take some pics in a few minutes when the lights come on, but this is what it looked like a couple of weeks before harvest, and a dried bud:

[outdoordreams]

I heard the Flodica males are sterile?????? Is this correct?

[- ezra -]

I hope Zamalito will find a nice one which isnt sterile.

So how many beans are you growing out Zam? Can you show us some pics? What are you planning to cross to the Flodica? Good luck and keep us posted. I hope your keeping well buddy.

- Ez

[S_a_H]

Originally Posted by outdoordreams

I heard the Flodica males are sterile?????? Is this correct?

Negative...... I got about 1500 mature seeds from 4 Flodica plants. I have a friend that is doing some Flodica for an outdoor grow and I hope to either get him to post some pictures or let me post them. He is also growing some Romica ( Romulan club clone ) crossed with some of that male Flodica pollen.

S_a_H

[outdoordreams]

Really good news!!! Flodica sounds far more interesting now!!

[fjällhöga]

looking like that ???? i found her in a pack of f13 .... , she´s the only one expressing indy traits

[zamalito]

Hey Ez, sorry I didn't reply to your post sooner. I have 46 flodica plants from seed at various stages of development. Right now I only have 3 that are far enough into flowering to tell their characteristics though just to get an idea of this somewhat mysterious strain. I'm also sorry my camera is loaned out at the moment but I will try to have some pictures posted.

This line is an integral part of the blueberry series. Here's what djshort says about the flodica/true floral/temple flo plant.

"I have an f3 variety that I call "TF" for True Floral (also for temple flo). This amazing plant is matriarch of the Blueberry/Blue moonshine line and a relative of flo. I experimented by bx'ing with the f3 pollen 3 times. The first two backcrosses seemed fine. The desirable characteristics (an indica pattern structure with extreme resin production) were expressing themselves with greater frequency in the first two generations. The third bx with the f3 pollen produced a famed and dreaded variety that I refer to as "No High."

He goes on to talk about how terrible "no high" was and how it had stunted brown resin gland heads and made the user grumpy and angry but this is a different subject altogether.

Anyways judging from this comment and what I see in the flodica line here's what I think Flodica is.

[(F3Temple Flo female X F3 Temple Flo male) X f3 temple flo male] X f3 temple flo male. I believe it's an f4 temple flo female that's then bx'd to the f3 male twice. I'm thinking blue velvet was the same two parents in the f3 generation excepte instead of bx'ing to the father the f4 female was crossed to an f4 male and then probably the f5 male to an f5 female. Blue moonshine and blueberry both use the same f3 mother as flodica and blue velvet but with pollen donors that are more like an indica dominant afghan highland thai cross which is more sweet and fruity and lean less toward the purple thai side which is more floral and earthy. I believe the flo on the other hand started with the same p1, and possibly f1 and maybe f2 parents but by the f3 diverged to selecting toward a more sativa side.

Anyways Ez, here's what I'm planning to do with the flodica.


1. Inbreed using select flo and flodica plants in an attempt to recreate the blue velvet line.

2. Cross to deep chunk to emphasis the purple, the earthy odor and the social indica buzz.

3, cross to pine tar kush to emphasize pineiness.

4. Use the recessive qualities of flodica to cross to various landrace lines with the goal of making more resinous earlier better yielding lines that still retain much of the character of the landrace in the f1.

Great pics fj! Still haven't tried the f13. I'm not sure why but I'm reluctant to try the new djshort lines. The flodica struck me for some reason. I see a strong similarity but flodica's lighter colored and looks a more like blue velvet. It even has these weird little pistils like bluevelvet. They're really thin and short. I see a bit of that trait in yours and some flo plants but its really extreme in the flodica and blue velvet. Is that f13 in the pic extremely column shaped? Mine were so branchless at 15" tall I had to bend the top shoot down temporarily to even get them to produce branches for making cuttings. The blue velvet was the same way.

[- ezra -]

interesting stuff Zam, keep us posted. 46 plants should give you a decent selection, especially as it is a heavily worked strain. good luck man.

- Ez