[Guest423]

lookin killer BC, my observations from vegging under hps instead of mh's is the stems grow stronger and more woodsy..almost like a bark type layer...you ever notice that? it could be the fact that when i do veg under hps they are 1000 watters.

was the veg stage way faster then either parant or just a little faster?

i'm with you on the harvest times, i'd probably want them to go 70-80 days.

i wonder what the harvest dates outdoors on this cross would be? would be awesome if they got done end sept/early oct! keep it up bro...your doing great...peace

[AbaZabba]

BubbaChunk, very nice as usual beancounter

they look awfly healthy and will certainly be a heavy hitter

best of luck with the final product, ill be here for the rest of the ride

[Orangelazaris]

Holy jesus Bean...


Good idea...

Let us know if these end upon the bay..


Best,

OL

[beancounter]

I hope so jetz!

Originally Posted by Time2Unite

lookin killer BC, my observations from vegging under hps instead of mh's is the stems grow stronger and more woodsy..almost like a bark type layer...you ever notice that? it could be the fact that when i do veg under hps they are 1000 watters.

I've never really noticed that, and have vegged with 1k super horts, and 1k MH, but i'm sure it could have something to do with it.. I mainly notice the MH is denser, squatter, stouter growth.

was the veg stage way faster then either parant or just a little faster?

I'd say they're at least 15-25% faster, but i'd need to run clones of the Bubba Chunks next to Bubba to be sure.. Bubba I find is roughly 15-25% faster than DC..

i'm with you on the harvest times, i'd probably want them to go 70-80 days.

i wonder what the harvest dates outdoors on this cross would be? would be awesome if they got done end sept/early oct! keep it up bro...your doing great...peace

yep, indoors it's best to let them go as long as you can to get them to put you on the couch.. but not everyone likes that.. the cool thing about this cross is that both indicas have a fair bit of headyness to them.. so a 50-55 day harvest may be perfect for those that prefer sativas.. we shall see..

Outdoors i'm not sure, but i do know that DC and Bubba are both doable in most locations south of the border, and i'm sure the lower parts of canada could pull it off.. I'll be trying em outside as will pipeline, and a few others.. some in europe.. so we will all know by the end of the season..




Thanks Abba, pull up a seat :smile:



thanks O, and the earliest any of these will be released is when i'm finished with my grows.. if i have any doubt on any of the lines after my grows, i will wait for other test grows to be finished..



So, i've decided to feed 1-2 of the BC's with Pure Blend (not pro) flower nutes, along with a Bubba Kush and ECSD i jus put into flower.. I have ECSD, Bubba, and BCs on my reg 3 part chem for a side by side comparo, i'll be sure to post the differences..

And here's a lil teaser shot of Bubba Chunk #1 @ 3 days 12-12, the fans are ginormous:

[somoz]

lookin forward to seein ya flower em out bro, and yeah, those leaves do look huage!

bring on the resin!

moz

bean has the katsu bubba kush cut (aka pre2k), check out his elite strain decription and picture thread:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=46956

[Scay Beez]

I think I know what you mean by the "nasty earthy crap outdoors" taste that organics can sometimes have. I'm a big taste/smooth smoke snob. I find that any kind of fish meal, shrimp meal, bone meal, blood meal, or crab meal gives chronic that nasty taste. I stay away from those and rock phosphate. I find RP makes herb harsh on the lungs even though its a standard organic nute for food production. Some nutes that are great for growing food we eat, aren't good for herb that we smoke, IMO.

Pure blend turns out some tasty herb but I find it to be a little watered down compared to guano teas. Sweet or any other sugar cane product adds a super sweet high note to the taste. Molasses I find adds more of a candied taste and brings out the low ends. Too much sugar makes the herb burn hot, IMO. I've experimenting with different sugar mixes (agave, bsm, carbo load, maple) and how they effect taste. Of course we can't forget the mighty bacteria and fungus which do something magic. Chems hurt my lungs and fuck my allergies up so I can always tell the difference (I don't care if its flushed for 5 weeks). I have friends that prefer the high of chemmy to organics, to each their own.

Man do you ever sleep beancounter..haha..? something new everyday it seems. Keep up the hard work, love to see others get down and always enjoy the picture show.


- sbz

[DimeBag65]

cant wait to see some flower shots... looks like shes gonna be a real winner

[UmphreyMcgee420]

looking nice and healthy. nice cross, cant wait for some more updates bro

[beancounter]

Yeah somoz, I can't wait either.. o shit, speaking of which I jus remembered that I needed yer email addy again shoot me a PM when u get a chance.. I did a 'mass PM deleted' by accident the other day and lost some stuff..



Sup Bobbie, H&L has got it right, I used katsu's Bubba which is the same as the pre2k1 to the best of my knowledge.. I spent alot of time researchin and verifying Bubba, and cross referencing, but I still would like to grow them all out side by side myself someday.. This is the same cut that 3Cs used to make the S1 that they sold for a while.

I have a friend who has grown 5 different Bubba cuts in the pursuit of the katsu cut he once had but lost.. All Bubbas are dank, but each one is dif and some are definately better than others.. He was very happy to finaly relocate her..

I need to grow some more Bubba Cuts to get a better handle on the differences, but I'm glad I was able to use one of, if not the best Bubba cut for this project. I'll also be using STS to reverse the katsu bubba for some S1s so that i can look thru some of my own phenos.. Bubba seems to take much better to selfing than OGK or some other elites.. That may suggest she's slightly more stable than the others..



Thanks H&L

Originally Posted by Scay Beez

I think I know what you mean by the "nasty earthy crap outdoors" taste that organics can sometimes have. I'm a big taste/smooth smoke snob. I find that any kind of fish meal, shrimp meal, bone meal, blood meal, or crab meal gives chronic that nasty taste. I stay away from those and rock phosphate. I find RP makes herb harsh on the lungs even though its a standard organic nute for food production. Some nutes that are great for growing food we eat, aren't good for herb that we smoke, IMO.

Yes, i've certainly heard the same thing about some of the ammendments coming thru in the final product.. I'm not sure of the full organic regimes of my 2 dif friends.. likely a mix of ammendments and teas.. I jus use worm castings/fish ferts for veg and the meals for flower, as that was most commonly suggested.. I wanted to keep it simple..

I am by no means an authority on organic growing, or even chem growing.. I still have plenty of 'work' to do on comparisons, and finding something that'll work well for me in each situation (outdoors and in, hydro or soiless).

trial and error is our best friend in these situations, but it can get frustrating..

Pure blend turns out some tasty herb but I find it to be a little watered down compared to guano teas. Sweet or any other sugar cane product adds a super sweet high note to the taste. Molasses I find adds more of a candied taste and brings out the low ends. Too much sugar makes the herb burn hot, IMO. I've experimenting with different sugar mixes (agave, bsm, carbo load, maple) and how they effect taste. Of course we can't forget the mighty bacteria and fungus which do something magic. Chems hurt my lungs and fuck my allergies up so I can always tell the difference (I don't care if its flushed for 5 weeks). I have friends that prefer the high of chemmy to organics, to each their own.

that is some excellent information right there.. I will make sure i apply it.. I'm actualy a huge addict of real sugar cane, i go a buy it by the bushel in the asian/e.indian markets.. you think i could use fresh? filtered and watered down?

I started with PB as I wanted to use it in dwc for some of my Bubbas, there were really no other easy options as far as bubblers.. well, no options for a guy that may not be able to change/clean the bucket every few days.. And PB seemed to be the most well received as far as partial org hydro or mostly org dro.. well, actualy PBP.. But I bought regular PB by accident, so i decided rather than takin it back i'd use it in soiless.. plus, i think the PB is more organic than PBP..

I wanted to keep it simple, start with building blocks.. do a run, add something new, do another, etc.. so that i can see if each makes a sig dif.. I don't like starting with 5-6 products..

At this point I can't really afford Liquid Karma, so i decided to jus use the CalMag to suppliment N and micros, and the PB bloom isn't enough on it's own..

It's been kinda tricky to figure out how much to use as they recomend 1-3 tbsp, and aren't super clear.. Also trying to figure out how much calmag to use, im guessing i'll have to run close to the 8ml/gal mas recomendation to get enough N into these Bubbas, ECSDs, and Bubba Chunks.. They'll looking ok so far so hopefully i'll be ok..

My next run I plan on adding molases (sweet is overpriced sugar water is it not?) or something similar.. if I can afford it i may try LK..

Later I will get into making teas and such, but right now, with the numbers i run, and all the dif strains, the simplicity of the 'bottled' nutes it too great to not take advantage of..

I plan to be on a pretty significant sized farm in several yrs, i will then start playin with large scale home made organics for outside and greenhouses.. but I may still stick to bottled hydro for indoors.. I will do tons of tomatoes/peppers/fruit/veg aswell.. The farm has been fully organic since it's inception about 30 yrs ago, mostly simple manure teas.. cow and chicken..

Man do you ever sleep beancounter..haha..?

lol, rarely bro, rarely.. insomnia sucks, and i can't find an indica that phases me.. I was hopin' 80-85 day Bubba bubble hash woulda done the trick, but no cigar.. but, i get lots of shit done.. lol

something new everyday it seems. Keep up the hard work, love to see others get down and always enjoy the picture show.

thanks bro, nice to know it's apreciated.. and your input is excellent, i may be PMin' ya later for tea info..



thanks dime and ump.. they're stretchin now.. I'll be measuring them at 2 weeks and i'll report on stretch..

I have visions of bubba/dc looking buds dancing thru my head aswell.. at this point i can't really see how they could suck.. but we'll see won't we.. i think 2 peeps are running 10 each of these already, and there should be many more test grows popping up..