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Old 02-02-2007, 05:44 AM #1
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Coir and castings

If I am mixing 1lb of castings for every brick of coir along with the needed Peralite, Will I need to be using a special nutrient made for Coir.
I would think the Castings would provide all the needed micronutrients and I am using bat crap suspended/mixed in water for feeding them.
Anything else I should add to the original Mix?
Coir is new to me as a primary mix so ne help will be....well Helpfull
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New to coco myself. I've seen threads where guys use worm castings, and some guys swear you shouldn't add anything and just go with coco specific nutes, so what ya gonna do ? I would suggest cal-mag as pretty much everyone agrees ya need it. Main thing is just getting a handle on how much and when to water them and figuring out how much to feed them. Pretty much like any other medium I guess. I'm having mixed results so far but things are slowly improving...at least I hope they are .



uh...they also root like fiends in coco
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There is a thread down the page a bit with some organic coco thoughts.
Goodluck in your endeavours.
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:31 PM #4
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I dont know of any coco specific nutrients?

I use coco coir and I ammend it with all of the same things I would if it was peat moss. Worm castings, perlite, lime, guanos, blood, bone, anything you would use in organics, coir is simply a new medium.. a peat replacement. And a great one at that! I love coir.
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I dont know of any coco specific nutrients?
canna coco nutes
https://www.hydroponics-hydroponics.c...c_for_coco.cfm

monkey Juice coco nutes
https://www.growell.co.uk/p/5588/Monk..._Nutrient.html

Botanicares CNS17 specifically targeted for coco
https://botanical.com/hydro/nutrients/nutrients.html


and there's more if you look. The problem I ran into with all the additives is I treated it just like soil. And it is NOT soil. It's soil-less. And requires some different stuff.

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Old 02-04-2007, 12:39 AM #6
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eckk.. all those packaged "specific" nutrients.. ahh i dont trust them, its a marketing scheme. You can get better results and a better understanding of cannabis by using real organic nutrients like worm castings, guanos, kelp, bloodmeal bone meal, alfalfa meal, fish fertalizers, fish bone, greensand, manure, etc.. etc..
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I've been wondering about this topic for awhile now as I plan on running an ebb & flow set-up using coir/perlite and feeding with CNS-17. I would normally add worm casting and lime but not sure if it's neccesary, anymore thoughts? PEACE
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eckk.. all those packaged "specific" nutrients.. ahh i dont trust them, its a marketing scheme. You can get better results and a better understanding of cannabis by using real organic nutrients like worm castings, guanos, kelp, bloodmeal bone meal, alfalfa meal, fish fertalizers, fish bone, greensand, manure, etc.. etc..
You should go over to the organic section then...

coco nutes are a scheme...
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I've been wondering about this topic for awhile now as I plan on running an ebb & flow set-up using coir/perlite and feeding with CNS-17. I would normally add worm casting and lime but not sure if it's neccesary, anymore thoughts? PEACE
I wouldn't add either in coco. It's a soiless substrate....just feed the coco, and add what the plants tells you it needs.

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Old 07-16-2007, 04:22 AM #10
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There are lots of ways to go with coco, but for me it comes down to two ways.

1. Coco by itself or with inert amendments (perlite, expanded clay, gravel) -- Used in hydroponic or drip setups when using liquified chemical or organic nutrients. Allows coco to be washed and recycled for re-use.

2. Coco with organic and inert amendments (perlite, worm castings, compost, bone/blood meal, etc) -- Typically used when planting outside or when not re-using the medium (houseplants, Mother plants). Coco really is inert and if you don't amend your permanent or semi-permanent plants you can very easily have deficiencies. I like using coco as half of my household potting mix because it holds water so well and just seems to make for healthy plants. I've learned that it pays to amend with good organic material to begin with so that you can leave your plants with just water for a month or two if you need to. This is good for mother plants that you don't want setup in the standard hydro system.

If you are going to re-use your coco, leave the organic stuff out and brew it in a tea instead. Definitely add some expanded clay, lava or maybe even mulch as a top layer. Coco tends to erode very easily and you can end up exposing your root system with too much water pressure, especially if you are reach into a thick canopy to water by hand. A layer of rocks or clay on the bottom of your growing container will keep the roots from circling or drowning in undrained runoff.


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