I am using Botanicare's Ready grow Moist formula. I used most of the bag on my last grow. I was going to get more of the same exact thing. Now I am thinking about changing but I am not sure. I kinda though all coco was about the same. I know some has less salts than others do, but otherwise, basically they're all the same stuff.
By using liquid food I wanted to learn and watch my plants eat. My first grow turned out great. I want better!
The first garden was eating B.C. Bloom, Boost & grow. A 3-part nutrient feed. I also have Thrive alive Red and green as well as Awesome Blossom. The foods made herb way better then I had hoped would come out. Now that I have the basics, I want too improve.
I was looking into Bio Bizz from General Hydroponics. It's all organic liquid food.

The reason for this post is too find out which foods I CAN NOT use more than which ones TO use. Everybody has there own beliefs as far as organic or hydro. I figured that a mix lighter than dirt, but still organic would give the speed of Hydro with the Benefits of dirt. Am I right?
Now if I can get the taste of Organic dirt from a mix and liquids, Sign me up!

[MTF-Sandman]

They may not be 100% organic, but FoxFarm & Botanicare nutes work excellent and still maintain that organic flavor...there's really not any nutes that I know of that won't work if they are applied correctly tho, so I'd say find one that you're comfy growing with and just tweak the feeding to the coco.

Does compost work well to add to a coco mix?
I have a coco-mix which I want to feed organically. I though compost and soil took up more space than coco. I mean, I though the pots had to be bigger than if you used coco. Is this right?
I am very limited in space but still want benefits from living organic soil. I just read an old article of Nebu's and it got me pumped about organics.
So I guess you treat coco like you would treat rockwool, Not soil?
Will guano or blood meal just be washed away?

Sorry for the rant, But i am a little...
Thanks for making a place for cool people to talk!

[nandro]

I like leaving my coco pure, non-ammended, so I am getting tha most from my nutes. Flushing between rez cleanings/nute changings is very non-problematic, as well.

You don't need any bigger or smaller pots for coco. Size of pots determines the overall size of yer plants, so pick accordingly. I'm sure that Nebu article got you stoked, but stick to organic soil mixes if enriching your soil with tons of ammendments is your gig. Ammended coco will give you more problems in the end. Just leave it pure + your drainage material [which can be a number of things] for best results.

Peace,
Nandro

[gaiusmarius]

if i wanted to do a organic coco grow i would use one of those new organic multi purpose fertilizers, that specifically mentions coco. canna's bio line for example will work in coco as long as you are hand watering, as those bio nutes do not stay usable for more then a few hours, hence no automated system, also it's thick pasty stuff and is said by canna to block your dripper setups. but if i wanted to hand water that's what i'd use with the basics; rhizotonic or similar. cannazym or similar. pk 13/14 and maybe bioboost if you got the cash.

but what ever else, i'd leave the coco pure like nandro says, it's perfect the way it is. you can only complicate matters by adding stuff and make more work and mess for yourself then necessary.

that's my 2 cents anyway.

The bio bizz line is the direction I was headed. Do these nutrient really make the smoke taste like organic soil grown or just Better than Chemmy Hydro?
Also, how do products like "Sweet" work in coco mixes?
I would think this is where this stuff would shine
Thanks

[gaiusmarius]

if you do a good job of flushing the coco a few days before harvest, you get a fantastic taste. that's using canna's water soluble nutrients anyway. with pure organics you probably need to stop N 14 days before harvest to be sure it's all used up and lets your plants own tast and flavour come out to the full. as for sweet it seems to be a good product from what i hear. same with liquid karma.

I want to water by hand. The bio bizz line is sold at my grow shop. I would like to use the worm castings, bone meal and kelp for Organics, but I don't know enough!
I don't have enough room to use a mix of ingredients and just feed with water for the whole cycle. All of the soil-mixes that have food in them take up more room than my 1-gallon square pots. I think I would need 3-5 Gallon pots. That wouldn't work for me.

The only reasonable totally organic alternative I found could possibly work was a raised bed garden. A box of dirt with multiple plants growing in it. This would be difficult because of the confined space I grow in.

If there is an alternative way of growing organic herb in a small space 4x4x4, Without liquid fertilizers, Let me know!!!
I would like to try another way if it isn't a waste of space.

[gaiusmarius]

nah liquid ferts is the way to go, specially in coco. otherwise you defeat the whole object of coco which is to make it easy. and not to have these hugee containers of medium.

Why can you use smaller pots for coco than for soil?
Is there more space in the coco than in normal dirt?
That's my guess.
A determining factor for me to use coco instead of dirt was 1 Gallon of coco-mix yields more than 1 Gallon of dirt in the Same containers. Is this even true?

Should I ask this in a new thread?