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Old 01-24-2007, 09:05 AM #1
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I need tips on making seeds

I want to make some seeds. I'm not going to bother with things like which strains I'm crossing so it doesn't take away from this thead but they are both 8-9 week strains. It's funny how little info there is out there on this. Even grow books neglect it. Here are my questions:

How far into flower should the female be to pollenated?

How long does a male take to give pollen?

Does making healthy seeds have any special fert requirments?

How long after pollenation does it take the seed to be ready?

Any post harvest drying out of the seed?

Any other tips?

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Old 01-24-2007, 09:45 AM #2
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How far into flower should the female be to pollenated?

If you start males and fems into flower at the same time, the male will put out pollen long before any substantial buds form.. this will give you less, but generally larger and mostly ripe seed. Once pollination takes affect the plant stops making buds for the most part (indoors anyways) and unless it's a long flowering sativa, won't make much additional bud.

For the above reason I like to stagger my males, and put them into flower 2 weeks after the females.. Which roughly equates to pollination in the 3-4 wk of flower, depending on the males speed dropping pollen.. I find this gives me much more seeds overall, but slightly smaller (maybe 10%ish), and more immature seed at the end.. also, more smokable bud.

You can also pollinate preflowers on veg plants if you jus want a few seeds..

But if u have pollen ready, and are looking for seed production, i'd suggest pollinating at about 3-4 wks, which will give them exactly enough time to ripen in the 9 wk window..

If you jus want a few seeds, then it doesn't really matter when you do it, jus as long as you have about 30-40 days left and some white pistils.

How long does a male take to give pollen?

About 1.5-2wks IME for indica and hybrids, but it differs depending on how mature/healthy he is going into flower, and the strain of course. Sativas likely take longer..

Does making healthy seeds have any special fert requirments?

Not really, i'd feed at about 3/4 strength to full strength.. I find fully seeded plants don't need quite as much nutes, but a lightly seeded one will take full strength.

How long after pollenation does it take the seed to be ready?

Some people say faster, and in hydro or great conditions i'm sure it is faster.. but about 35-40 days IME, but i like to give it as long as possible to try to get any stragglers to mature.. but the majority will be ready in 40 days.

Any post harvest drying out of the seed?

Ok, if i take the seed off the plant as soon as it's dry (7-10 days hanging), I then like to put them on a plate, or bowl, one layer thick, and jus keep them in a warmer dry area exposed to the air for about 5-7 days.. maybe 70-75 degrees max..

But, if u dry and then cure your bud, and harvest the seed as you smoke the bud, there's no need to dry them at all.

Any other tips?

that's about it.. it's pretty simple.. you'll find your own preferences as you do it.

good luck.

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Perfect timing on this thread Shmokin. Bein a first timer myself it's nice that you asked all the right questions in one thread. Saved me some trouble.

Great info as usual Beancounter. Later fellas
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Thanks, I hope to be counting beans soon.
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:44 AM #5
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its pretty easy I just finished my first cross and i am currently test growing it along with a few others too. I did basically what bean said.. and I've had 28 out of the 31 seeds that I tryed to sprout pop and 26 out of those 28 are still doing wonderfully. heres some pics.. not trying to thread jack or anything.. just trying to let ya know what he says works gl man!!!


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making seed is easy ... it does not have to be complicated ...

like they say, if you can grow , then you can make seed ...

the plants will really do all the work for you, all you have to do is guide them a bit

if you have the resource, then the very easiest and simple method is to simply dedicate a grow out of your SELECTED males & females in the same area ... let them flower freely together and i PROMISE you will end up with more seed then you can possibly use

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beancounter summed it up really. i always get pollen before i flower add it at the second or 3rd week let the strain go a little long to get the most mature seeds. when going for seeds i could care less for buds. the more seeds the better right?

just one thing i have to add, POLLEN GETS EVERYWHERE!?!?! it will travel in ways you cant imagine. so make sure your really carefully unless your doing a full seed run. then after sterilize the room/area.
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I'd just like to add some tips.

A white pistil {hair} is a viable calyx {seedpod} ready and able to recieve pollen.

After dosing the plant with pollen you should see alot of these white pistils turn brown and wither at the tips working it's way to the rest of the hair within 24-48 hours...

Does anyone know by means of paying very close attention how long a white pistil will remain as such {that is in a consistant and friendly, pollen free environment}?
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Does anyone know by means of paying very close attention how long a white pistil will remain as such {that is in a consistant and friendly, pollen free environment}?

It depends, I've seen pistils on some strains brown/die in a day or less.. I've also seen pistils take up to 4-5 days to die.. so long in fact, that i thought the pollen was sterile.. It was ECSD with DC pollen and she ended up loaded with seed, packed to the gills.
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It depends, I've seen pistils on some strains brown/die in a day or less.. I've also seen pistils take up to 4-5 days to die.. so long in fact, that i thought the pollen was sterile.. It was ECSD with DC pollen and she ended up loaded with seed, packed to the gills.
yea the pistils on my cross went out in about 20 - 25 hours.. it was nuts...
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