Gonna give coco a try soon.....

I love it how they (canna) have a downloadable grow guide that people say is spot on, but damn their products, taken together, turn out to be a few times the cost of using other hydroponic types of ferts, and by how much they are recommending to use, they are also way more watered down so I'd need more way sooner. I mean their Rhizotonic is super expensive, like $50 a liter, and is used a lot according to their grow guide. Also, nobody close to me sells the stuff, so all of it would need to be ordered.

I've seen some use the Flouranova's and do well but run into problems in the end.

Has anyone developed a simple nute schedule for coco that they've used a bit with continued success, that they could guide me to...like similar to the canna schedule (use this during early/ late veg and this during early/late flowering???

I already have canna a and b here, the two Flouranovas, and the BC grow/boost/bloom with the red and green thrive and awesome blossom add on. If I had to buy anoher fert or two I'd happily do it, but I just don't want to buy into a nute system that is as far overpriced as the Canna's.

Anyone have a definitive nute guide in coco????

Ya may wanna try CNS17. VT is doing a thread on it and I just started using it.. Most folks in coco will tell ya to to pony up the $$ for hygrozyme too. Sounds like ya already got a pretty fair selection of nutes, and I doubt you're gonna need anything else for awhile. I can't speak for any of them, including the CNS17, but one advantage I can see would be less mixing and measuring.

My feeding schedule varies with where the plant is at. full on in veg they get 1 teaspoon nutes per gallon of ph'd to 5.5 water and watered daily till I see good run off. Add 50% perlite ( the big chunky stuff )to your coco for good drainage and aeration. I'll add I'm new to coco also, the feeding scedule was suggested by a couple of folks I respekt and I have seen it work for them.

Definitive guide to coco? You're in the right place, start digging thru threads in this forum and all the info ya need is here. Or just ask, there's some good folks here will help out.

link to CNS17
https://botanical.com/hydro/nutrients/nutrients.html

[gaiusmarius]

instead of rhizotonic try the because root booster, instead of canna A+B buy hesi coco A+B, same with cannazym, get the hesi powerzym it will save you money. because bud booster is also good and no too expensive. also remember that they always recommend the highest nute ratios.

if you look around here you will find different approaches you can take, adding sweet and cal mag to normal flowering nutes is working for some people too. but in the end i must admit that it helps you to know you are using the correct nutes for a medium. takes a lot of the guess work out of growing. and the price of the canna nutes is still cheap compared to advanced nutrients, lol. but i agree, they have been upping their prices as their rep has gone up. a local whole seller told me that they have become very arrogant about the prices, it's take it or leave it despite this guy buying some large quantities of products from them. it does make growing in coco a snap and it on it's own will get you a gpw with the correct dosages and strain etc. the supplements are just there to speed things up a bit and get a slight bit more yield, but a+b at the correct ph are enough to fill your plants with fat buds.

Thats good info there. I already have some canna a and b, so I think I'll get the b'cuss suppliments and add a little when appropriate. I appreciate having your agreement on the price too. I don't wanna seem too cheap, but damn 50 bucks for a liter!

The b'cuzz stuff also seems to be more available (outside california/west coast, where most canna dealers seem to be)

I have calmag here to incase I run into the need for it. As a rookie, I've learned quickly how handy that is to have around.

[nandro]

youre definetely gonna need that Cal/Mag. coco gardener's best friend, next to Hygrozyme [but that's any kind of grower's best friend right there].

best wishes,
nandro

CNS 17 system seems worthwhile too. Cheap and at the least designed for what I want. Gonna give the canna a + b a try first, since they can supposedly stand alone and I can add what I can afford or have....

I'm gonna go searching for info bout the Hygrozyme. Never heard of it before but always happy to look into something that might be good for the garden

[gaiusmarius]

i know there are a lot of cal mag fans out there, but it's really not needed if you have canna coco a+b, i don't nor ever have had to add cal mag to my coco when using coco A+B. it's always to do with ph or too high salt concentration. in fact i have seen people really fuck up their plants by adding epsom salts to coco while using canna coco A+B. i forget the guys handle, but once i told him to flush the salts out and start again with the nutes his plants came around.

cal mag is good when you are using multi purpose ferts for coco. the cal mag isn't as strong as the epsom salts, but still only add it if you see the need, which you shouldn't when using the a+b at the correct dose. that's one of the things that makes the A+B nutes so easy for coco growing, you can rely on them.

[mtnjohn]

yes , i was checking on a few suppliers sites and canna is $$$$
very high prices for their products

everybody always complains that AN is expensive

[gaiusmarius]

when you consider the ingredients those nutrients should be given away, lol. they are mostly made from left overs from manufacturing other products, just like the coco coir, it used to be a left over product that no one had any idea what to do with. but there you go, supply and demand rules the market, when you get to the cannabis specific nutrients you find that they are priced about as highly as they think they can get away with. as long as people buy the stuff prices will stay up.

although i must say some companies are making products at more reasonable prices and higher concentrations. one just has to find the appropriate ones for ones own situation. the canna A+B is not that expensive and it will do a great job with nothing else if used correctly. sothat's what i've been doing most recently, using the canna A+B, with biogreens cal gel flower booster and hesi's powerzym. the because boosters are good too and not so expensive as some.

but still my advice for a new grower would be to stick to A+B for flowering, for the first time. just to understand what's possible with just the basics, before going on to experiment with supplements.

[mtnjohn]

if it works then that is good, we all have to use what works for us

thats why i use sensi grow/ bloom a&b . not that i'm opposed to trying something else..

i havnt tried canna so i cant speak of the quality. but i'm with you on the marketing
thing....source ingredients are dirt cheap