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BlueBear · 01-16-2007, 11:20 AM

First run in coco. Test run with a clone from a friend under 1 of my 1000W's. 30 day flower GH coco and 3 part nutes, LQ, CalMag and will start KoolBloom in a day or two.
I got her at 3 weeks veg and she was a little beat up so I veged her out for approx 10 more days, took clones and presto.

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Adieu
PS, thanks for the insperation peoples especially, BoneCarver, our new mod and the coco folks from PG.

01-16-2007, 05:08 PM

Looking good BB!

clowntown · 01-16-2007, 05:12 PM

How much difference does using coco-specific nutes make?

BlueBear · 01-16-2007, 09:05 PM

Apparently it can make all the difference in the world after reading threw all the threads on growing in coco, but thankfully I haven't seemed to have had any problems. approx 90% of people in here and on the PG coco forum seem to use the coco specific nutes.
The coco processes P and K different than soil/hydro and people experience calcium and Zink lock outs that cripple their crops, but that is why I use the CalMag, but at the same time, many who use the coco nutes still use the CalMag as well, so I just skipped the coco nutes and stayed with the 3 part, and I know a fellow who uses the 3 part in his coco and plucks an OZ off of each plant and he flowers them as soon as they poke roots threw the RW and he does it like clock work year round.
Thanks for stopping in.
Adieu

gaiusmarius · 01-17-2007, 12:03 AM

looking good BlueBear, glad that coco is working to your satisfaction

it is amazingly flexible as a growing medium.

what i have noticed is that up to the first 3 weeks of flowering, you don't see any real problems using any old flowering nute. but after that point i have seen plenty of folks run into problems. but if you know what you are doing i suppose you can equalize things with supplements like cal mag, liquid karma and sweet. me i always use coco A+B nutes. saves me messing around and more importantly gives me certitude in what i'm giving. i never have to ask myself if i'm giving them all they need at the correct proportions. only the dosage and ph is left to decide.

BlueBear · 01-17-2007, 03:37 AM

Thanks for the words gaiusmarius. I here what you are saying and in some ways I am kind of holding my breath in case I do run into any problems. I find that with GH coco that it has workd fine, but it has quite a bit of coco husk in it once it expands and I am not sure how normal that is and I have also not had much luck with cuttings no matter how much I flush the coco, but I will keep trying to come up with a reasonable method to make it work. I am using the GH because the local carries it, but I think I will order some canna and try cuttings in that. I have some cuttings that I started in soil and put in the coco after the 4th node and they are thriving, getting ready for the next rouns.
Well Adieu for now

Levitationofme · 02-09-2016, 09:21 PM

I have been using "Nectar from the Gods"
I used them because I am noob and a kind store owner thought I would like using them and gave me a starter kit of their 4 basic
products.

I have nothing to compare my experience to yet, but I have got what I think are great results for a first run.

I don't think these nutrients are made especially for coco.

I have added a few of their other products to my solutions.

Their Yucca supplement, The Glucose Supplement, and Bloom Khaos.

I supplement all water with cal/mag. I add Ful-Power Humic to nutrients, and also SLF-100 once a week. Also B-vitamin product.

Mycos and Azos as recommended.

I also add Silicon every couple weeks.

With such a small grow space Growing the plants big enough is not a tough job, so I guess I havn't needed and extra Explosive growth.
I have had a relatively easy time with nutrient problems.

Any problem I have had nutrient wise has been solved by watering with properly Ph'd water for a couple days. Probably lucky.

I had 1 run in with spider mites. Organic Insecticidal soap worked nice.

I wondering what the experienced growers would do to increase the quality, not quantity of what I grow.

I understand good genetics are paramount, then Light, Air/CO2 abundance and food seem of equal importance.

Im watering 2x a day. Two days of Water 1 day of nutrients.
My waste water is usually in the 6.2 range ( up from 5.8) and the PPM are down 4-500 ppm from the original level.

We have tons of plants in the yard that I can dump the waste water over. I have not re-PH'ed the runoff and re-used it.

anyway thats my first experience sofar.

Very interesting reading the 100's of variations on the coco theme.

EastCoast710 · 02-09-2016, 09:38 PM

I love coco . just gotta find something better for flower then canna coco a and b .. didn't like how much nitrogen was given the entire flower period. but.. I'm a try 1 tent of gh . and 1 of something else.. and the third will be canna lol. see what does best for my setup.

01-16-2007, 11:20 AM	#1
BlueBear Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 79	First coco run with GH 3 part, 30 day flower First run in coco. Test run with a clone from a friend under 1 of my 1000W's. 30 day flower GH coco and 3 part nutes, LQ, CalMag and will start KoolBloom in a day or two. I got her at 3 weeks veg and she was a little beat up so I veged her out for approx 10 more days, took clones and presto. https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/50...2_1119-med.JPG https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/50...2_1114-med.JPG Adieu PS, thanks for the insperation peoples especially, BoneCarver, our new mod and the coco folks from PG.
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01-16-2007, 05:08 PM	#2
JackKerouac Guest Posts: n/a	Looking good BB!
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01-16-2007, 05:12 PM	#3
clowntown Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Downtown Posts: 3,596	How much difference does using coco-specific nutes make?
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01-16-2007, 09:05 PM	#4
BlueBear Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 79	Apparently it can make all the difference in the world after reading threw all the threads on growing in coco, but thankfully I haven't seemed to have had any problems. approx 90% of people in here and on the PG coco forum seem to use the coco specific nutes. The coco processes P and K different than soil/hydro and people experience calcium and Zink lock outs that cripple their crops, but that is why I use the CalMag, but at the same time, many who use the coco nutes still use the CalMag as well, so I just skipped the coco nutes and stayed with the 3 part, and I know a fellow who uses the 3 part in his coco and plucks an OZ off of each plant and he flowers them as soon as they poke roots threw the RW and he does it like clock work year round. Thanks for stopping in. Adieu
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01-17-2007, 12:03 AM	#5
gaiusmarius Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,619	looking good BlueBear, glad that coco is working to your satisfaction it is amazingly flexible as a growing medium. what i have noticed is that up to the first 3 weeks of flowering, you don't see any real problems using any old flowering nute. but after that point i have seen plenty of folks run into problems. but if you know what you are doing i suppose you can equalize things with supplements like cal mag, liquid karma and sweet. me i always use coco A+B nutes. saves me messing around and more importantly gives me certitude in what i'm giving. i never have to ask myself if i'm giving them all they need at the correct proportions. only the dosage and ph is left to decide. __________________ Making BubbleHash with Bubbleator Searching for SourPoison, AfghanDieselHaze and CheeseHaze keeper making canna butter
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01-17-2007, 03:37 AM	#6
BlueBear Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 79	Thanks for the words gaiusmarius. I here what you are saying and in some ways I am kind of holding my breath in case I do run into any problems. I find that with GH coco that it has workd fine, but it has quite a bit of coco husk in it once it expands and I am not sure how normal that is and I have also not had much luck with cuttings no matter how much I flush the coco, but I will keep trying to come up with a reasonable method to make it work. I am using the GH because the local carries it, but I think I will order some canna and try cuttings in that. I have some cuttings that I started in soil and put in the coco after the 4th node and they are thriving, getting ready for the next rouns. Well Adieu for now
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02-09-2016, 09:21 PM	#7
Levitationofme Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hanging with the Piper at the Gates of Dawn Posts: 1,040	Nutrients I have been using "Nectar from the Gods" I used them because I am noob and a kind store owner thought I would like using them and gave me a starter kit of their 4 basic products. I have nothing to compare my experience to yet, but I have got what I think are great results for a first run. I don't think these nutrients are made especially for coco. I have added a few of their other products to my solutions. Their Yucca supplement, The Glucose Supplement, and Bloom Khaos. I supplement all water with cal/mag. I add Ful-Power Humic to nutrients, and also SLF-100 once a week. Also B-vitamin product. Mycos and Azos as recommended. I also add Silicon every couple weeks. With such a small grow space Growing the plants big enough is not a tough job, so I guess I havn't needed and extra Explosive growth. I have had a relatively easy time with nutrient problems. Any problem I have had nutrient wise has been solved by watering with properly Ph'd water for a couple days. Probably lucky. I had 1 run in with spider mites. Organic Insecticidal soap worked nice. I wondering what the experienced growers would do to increase the quality, not quantity of what I grow. I understand good genetics are paramount, then Light, Air/CO2 abundance and food seem of equal importance. Im watering 2x a day. Two days of Water 1 day of nutrients. My waste water is usually in the 6.2 range ( up from 5.8) and the PPM are down 4-500 ppm from the original level. We have tons of plants in the yard that I can dump the waste water over. I have not re-PH'ed the runoff and re-used it. anyway thats my first experience sofar. Very interesting reading the 100's of variations on the coco theme.
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02-09-2016, 09:38 PM	#8
EastCoast710 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: EAST COAST Posts: 1,196	I love coco . just gotta find something better for flower then canna coco a and b .. didn't like how much nitrogen was given the entire flower period. but.. I'm a try 1 tent of gh . and 1 of something else.. and the third will be canna lol. see what does best for my setup.
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