[gaiusmarius]

i thought i'd open a thread showing what can be achieved with slabs and drippers in a recirculating system. with only a 4 day veg phase in the slabs.



you will notice that the light has only just turned on, sun up so to speak



as you can see these white widow ladies are just waiting for the chop. the slabs ec is below 0.6 and the fan leaves have all turned yellow for lack on N. perfect time for harvest with about 10 % amber trichome heads.



as you can see 30 plants per 600watt lamp is pretty darn perfect. more plants would be crowdy, less would need more then 3 or 4 days of veg on the slabs. each lamp has approx 1 meter by 1.35 of space to light up.



that bluish shimmer is not natural, it's the color correction of photoshop supposedly reducing the hps glare.



here we are with a few close up cola shots, not really very good, but gives you an idea. this is the typical sativa bud structure of my keeper ww.



more close ups of my favorite keeper queen widow



another very nice yielding plant from that see of green. what more can you want from any medium?



here we have one that shows some trichomes

that particular harvest was achieved without pk13/14, only the A+B nutes, cannazym and bioboost all the way through 12/12. you will never believe how low the ec has to be kept to get this WW to yield properly. she's known as a bad yielder by most people lol. when actually she is just incredibly nute shy. i also used rhizotonic at 1/2 ml per lt. till week 6 of 12/12.



the problem is not only is she nute shy, she will not show symptoms of over ferting other than making small buds. you can imagine how difficult that made things, till i finally discovered how well she grew with a lower ec level. specially as she is just so tasty that even with shity yield people grow her for the taste and high.

anyway this WW is pretty unique in that way, i have never known an other strain do so well with such a low ec level.

interesting

how much A+B for the WW? ml/10L?

[George]

i really really do want to try coco within the next few grows. it seems like such a crazy medium. only thing im not digging is the lack of organic ferts. sure ive seen people do it with PBP (organic...)but everything ive heard just reccomend the more chemmy ferts such as canna, but i want ease ofuse...which canna seems to be. another factor that i cant deal with right now is not letting the medium go dry since i leave on weekends. well see but none the less...very nice. is it commercial? dotn see too many commercial grows liek that.

[gaiusmarius]

i start her normally at 1.25ml per litter ec 1.0 and work up to ec 1.4 (2ml per lt.) in the first 14 days of 12/12 then back down to approx. 1.5 ml A+b per litter of water, ec of 1.1 for the rest of the way through. i know it sounds strange, but after many years that's the only way to get this plant to make a good yield. i used to grow her on the edges for the fine taste and heavy stone, until one day i put a few of them on the side of the grow like before, but in pots of earth this time, so i used the earth fert from canna which has a ec of 1.1 the plants turned out better then ever before and that got me pointed in the right direction to get them dialed in perfectly.

[stikky budz]

Excellant grow. Those pictures are inspiring

I never have understood why WW is known as bad yielder by some, i've had amazing results too (Dutch Passion), though mine was quite the nute eater. (N.F.T that grow)

How many plants per slab Gaiusmarius?

[the cult]

Great shots, great grow! Do you run additional co2?

[The Dopest]

that is alot of bud!!! Hey gaiusmarius

how many slabs are under each lamp, i see you mention there are 30 plants per light. also were they started in cubes then moved to slabs or straight slabs? thanks man!!

im definetly going to mimik this for my slabs setup

[WAMEN]

oh man i should be really proud.. i had the pleasure to taste your keeper multiple times and IT IS the most tasty WW ive ever smoked.. awsome pheno=great high

Quite a few growers say its "nute shy" and some others say it showed nute deficiency and used to eat like a motherfucker.. how come? is it a pheno thing? what you think about it buddy?

[gaiusmarius]

Originally Posted by George

i really really do want to try coco within the next few grows. it seems like such a crazy medium. only thing im not digging is the lack of organic ferts. sure ive seen people do it with PBP (organic...)but everything ive heard just reccomend the more chemmy ferts such as canna, but i want ease ofuse...which canna seems to be. another factor that i cant deal with right now is not letting the medium go dry since i leave on weekends. well see but none the less...very nice. is it commercial? dotn see too many commercial grows liek that.

as far as i can tell from what folks are posting, you can use organics in coco, you just need to use a few additives as well. as far as i read the canna bio fert is a multi purpose fert. it just can't be used in a tank as it's made to be used up within a few hours of adding it to your water. that stuff is a thick black syrup, lol. so if you wanted to hand water anyway, then this bio fert would be fine. it's just the fact that it won't keep in a tank and because it will block your drippers, that i have never tried it on my coco.

Originally Posted by stikky budz

Excellant grow. Those pictures are inspiring

I never have understood why WW is known as bad yielder by some, i've had amazing results too (Dutch Passion), though mine was quite the nute eater. (N.F.T that grow)

How many plants per slab Gaiusmarius?

thanks man, i think the low yield thing is to do with the different WW's you can get today.

i always put 4 plants in 1 coco slab.

Originally Posted by the cult

Great shots, great grow! Do you run additional co2?

no i don't add co2, i have a 1800qm/h exhaust ventilator hooked up to a climate controller.

Originally Posted by The Dopest

that is alot of bud!!! Hey gaiusmarius

how many slabs are under each lamp, i see you mention there are 30 plants per light. also were they started in cubes then moved to slabs or straight slabs? thanks man!!

there are normally, either 7 and a half, or 8 slabs per light. depending on the table size, 1.5 meter wide or 2 meters wide.

i always spend a good week to 10 days letting my clones get rooted into the rw cubes, only once the roots are growing out the bottom of the cubes will i plant them on the coco slabs. this allows me to save using all the lamps when they are sill small.

Originally Posted by bonecarver_OG

im definetly going to mimik this for my slabs setup

wow, now that's a compliment, thanks man. high praise indeed, lol.

Originally Posted by WAMEN

oh man i should be really proud.. i had the pleasure to taste your keeper multiple times and IT IS the most tasty WW ive ever smoked.. awsome pheno=great high

Quite a few growers say its "nute shy" and some others say it showed nute deficiency and used to eat like a motherfucker.. how come? is it a pheno thing? what you think about it buddy?

the pleasure was all mine WAMEN, i'm really glad you enjoyed it. we had a great time, i'm just sad that you can't make it for the 420.

the thing with the WW is that it has lost any distinct characteristics, because there are some many different types of WW on the market now. some of them seem to be completely different strains, let alone pheno types.

anyway many thanks for dropping in guys.

gm