heating and tinctures - is it required - Cooking With Cannabis - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

sugabear_II · 01-08-2007, 12:19 AM

Seen a bunch of recipes for tinctures and green death - some call for heating some don't I'd like to know if anyone has tried both ways and if the heating improved the effect greatly or not?

Any insites into the process of heating and what it does?

Also wondering if anyone has done a tincture with vapor duff?

thanks,

suga

_angst_ · 03-07-2007, 12:21 PM

I never heat mine. I keep it cold and in the freezer the entire time. I never get taste complaints. I also add a few vanilla beans.

03-08-2007, 05:50 AM

Ive tried & tested both ways...
I can say 'whole heartedly' that there is no comparison. No heat will get you high, but the boil definitely RELEASES the potency.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=38833

Try this recipe

medjool · 03-14-2007, 06:33 AM

sugabear_II

You can use EC, you can use brandy...
if you use good bud, loose grind and soak and shake
I mean for six months let it soak
that stuff will be potent

if you use trim or leaves or even male plants
still give it time
but then
after you strain it, squeeze out every single drop,
THEN you can boil it
do it outside
I know degreed chemist blows up his own kitchen
I boil mine off to 1/3 or less and I get some strong
green juice
do not bother under the tongue
it hurts and your whole mouth is mucous membrane anyway.....

mrs m

rsteeb · 03-17-2007, 07:24 PM

Google "decarboxylate+THC" ;D

THC Extraction

Some samples of grass have considerable THC acid. In order to extract this it is first necessary to decarboxylate it by heating it to 100 degrees [Celsius/ i.e. boiling water] for fifteen minutes.
https://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Drugs/THC/thcextract.html

see also Development of Cannabis-based therapeutics: https://mojo.calyx.net/~olsen/HEMP/IHA/jiha5113.html

Making cannabutter with a double boiler is the safest/most efficient extraction method-- AND it gets the herb's THC acids thoroughly decarboxylated in the process. No toxic/flammable/explosive solvents, either!!

Be well!

ToKEN · 01-07-2008, 10:35 AM

bumpers

Jahkaya · 01-23-2008, 07:17 PM

I put my vapor duff in whole raw milk and simmer for 15-20 minutes as low as you can go, strain out the duff, drink the milk and I am good.

sugabear_II · 01-23-2008, 08:31 PM

vapor duff makes good tincture too - just cover with a high proof booze and let sit for a while then strain -tastes a little blecky but gets the job done and no heating is required as the vapor duff is already decarboxylated

weedhead · 04-30-2008, 11:11 AM

Check out master wu's recipe for green dragon tincture if you haven't already.
Every time I used this recipe it has worked extremely well.
https://boards.cannabis.com/concentra...-combined.html

Papulz · 05-01-2008, 08:34 AM

heating isnt just there for decarboxlyation, as it also makes the ethanol (solvent) more aggressive in dissolving the goodies present in the source material. Heat aids the extraction time. if you want to wait 3 months, you dont need heat... if your less patient then maybe use some heat.

01-08-2007, 12:19 AM	#1
sugabear_II Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: gone phishin Posts: 1,051	heating and tinctures - is it required Seen a bunch of recipes for tinctures and green death - some call for heating some don't I'd like to know if anyone has tried both ways and if the heating improved the effect greatly or not? Any insites into the process of heating and what it does? Also wondering if anyone has done a tincture with vapor duff? thanks, suga __________________ [glow=green]150HPS club(click here)[/glow]Converting a security lamp to a remote ballasted grow light(click here) SugaBear's Den(click here) ICMAG'S OFFICIAL ~DIY~ LINK-O-RAMA (bookmark this) medical user in protest of my states lack of compassion
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03-07-2007, 12:21 PM	#2
_angst_ Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 178	I never heat mine. I keep it cold and in the freezer the entire time. I never get taste complaints. I also add a few vanilla beans.
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03-08-2007, 05:50 AM	#3
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Ive tried & tested both ways... I can say 'whole heartedly' that there is no comparison. No heat will get you high, but the boil definitely RELEASES the potency. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=38833 Try this recipe
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03-14-2007, 06:33 AM	#4
medjool tera hi karam Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 250	sugabear_II You can use EC, you can use brandy... if you use good bud, loose grind and soak and shake I mean for six months let it soak that stuff will be potent if you use trim or leaves or even male plants still give it time but then after you strain it, squeeze out every single drop, THEN you can boil it do it outside I know degreed chemist blows up his own kitchen I boil mine off to 1/3 or less and I get some strong green juice do not bother under the tongue it hurts and your whole mouth is mucous membrane anyway..... mrs m __________________ https://www.pacifier.com/~alive/articles/james_d.htm
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03-17-2007, 07:24 PM	#5
rsteeb Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 557	Google "decarboxylate+THC" ;D THC Extraction Some samples of grass have considerable THC acid. In order to extract this it is first necessary to decarboxylate it by heating it to 100 degrees [Celsius/ i.e. boiling water] for fifteen minutes. https://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Drugs/THC/thcextract.html see also Development of Cannabis-based therapeutics: https://mojo.calyx.net/~olsen/HEMP/IHA/jiha5113.html Making cannabutter with a double boiler is the safest/most efficient extraction method-- AND it gets the herb's THC acids thoroughly decarboxylated in the process. No toxic/flammable/explosive solvents, either!! Be well! __________________ "When Tyranny is abroad, SUBMISSION is the crime." --Rev Andrew Eliot, "An Election Sermon" 1765 "Make the most of the Indian Hemp Seed and Sow It EVERYwhere!" --George Washington, (instructions to his gardener, 1794) "Neither the composition of cannabis nor human physiology has changed since cannabis was illegitimately removed from the U.S. Pharmacopeia in 1940." --Tod Mikuriya, MD September 20, 1933 – May 20, 2007 Last edited by rsteeb; 03-17-2007 at 07:43 PM..
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01-07-2008, 10:35 AM	#6
ToKEN Registered Cannabis User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: the sweetest place on earth Posts: 1,038	bumpers __________________ I was wonderin if I might have been somebody other than myself.
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01-23-2008, 07:17 PM	#7
Jahkaya Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 266	I put my vapor duff in whole raw milk and simmer for 15-20 minutes as low as you can go, strain out the duff, drink the milk and I am good.
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01-23-2008, 08:31 PM	#8
sugabear_II Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: gone phishin Posts: 1,051	vapor duff makes good tincture too - just cover with a high proof booze and let sit for a while then strain -tastes a little blecky but gets the job done and no heating is required as the vapor duff is already decarboxylated __________________ [glow=green]150HPS club(click here)[/glow]Converting a security lamp to a remote ballasted grow light(click here) SugaBear's Den(click here) ICMAG'S OFFICIAL ~DIY~ LINK-O-RAMA (bookmark this) medical user in protest of my states lack of compassion
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04-30-2008, 11:11 AM	#9
weedhead Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 61	Check out master wu's recipe for green dragon tincture if you haven't already. Every time I used this recipe it has worked extremely well. https://boards.cannabis.com/concentra...-combined.html
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05-01-2008, 08:34 AM	#10
Papulz lover of all things hashlike Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 123 fake street Posts: 1,169	heating isnt just there for decarboxlyation, as it also makes the ethanol (solvent) more aggressive in dissolving the goodies present in the source material. Heat aids the extraction time. if you want to wait 3 months, you dont need heat... if your less patient then maybe use some heat.
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