11/13 CFL flowering light cycle??? - Micro Grows - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

I2KanGrow · 01-01-2007, 07:49 AM

So, I'm browsing the boards when I come across THIS THREAD. Look at post #8 - DeadlyFoez states that with CFLs, it takes longer for the plants to settle into "sleep", during the dark cycle - he then goes into explanation of certain light wave lengths which are not given-off w/ CFLs - causing the plants to stay awake for an extra hour or 2 after dark.

Has anyone heard this theory? He suggests an 11/13 CFL flower cycle.

I read DeadlyFoez thread (in his signature - his automated grow cab)... wow, he certainly sounds like he knows what he's doing!!!

Thoughts????

Sunset · 01-01-2007, 07:57 AM

Well, it kinda makes sense. Butt heck what do I know...

How's your 12/12 going? Pretty good?

NOKUY · 01-01-2007, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by I2KanGrow

with CFLs, it takes longer for the plants to settle into "sleep", during the dark cycle - Thoughts????

settle into sleep eh??

I've been doing this quite a while and I've never heard of MJ plants sleeping.
many process occur during the dark cycle.

sounds like hogwash to me ...and from my experience if you do the 11/13 light cycle for the ENTIRE flower period you can shave about 1 week off the finish date, and yield about 25% less (pretty significant in my opinion)

this comes from personal experience w/ cuts from the same mother flowered after 3 weeks veg.

I see no reason why CFL's would be any different other than your gonna yield less than w/ hid's, but the results should be relative.

hope that helps
-yukon

I2KanGrow · 01-01-2007, 04:26 PM

Hey Sunset... meant to get back to ya, but New Years, the family....

1st & Formost, Welcome & happy New Year!!

Yup, we certainly have budsign now - I'll post a picture tomorrow. I also decided to switch to 11/13 lighting, just for giggles. My biggest problem will be in choosing which buds to "sacrifice" for the overall good. I've been attending "The United Church of Red" - and Red_Greenery suggests 9 main colas/plant in a 2 plant rubbermaid: man-o-man, I have a pile more then that... so I just keep tuckin' & tyin' for now.

How 'bout you, you mentioned that you just flipped to 12/12.... Got Bud????? I invested in Female Seeds: Northern Light & White Widow - they've lived up to their name and are indeed, of the fair persuasion.

Good luck - here's to girls!!!!

pieceofmyheart · 01-01-2007, 04:30 PM

Hi sweetie

Happy New Year to ya! I say if you are following Red....you can't go wrong. I have taken a lot of his advice with most excellent results everytime.

I2KanGrow · 01-01-2007, 04:32 PM

Hey NOKUY!

Well, now I'm conflicted!!! I have nothing but time - no deadlines... and I can be patient. First and formost, I'm looking to maximize yield (and who isn't!!

), I don't want to mess w/ that!

I'm going to research some more, I'll leave them in 11/13 for now, until I can find either quality research proving or disproving, if I find nothing else - I'll revert back to 12/12 in a few days. Did you get a chance to check his signature thread... pretty sick, eh??

I2KanGrow · 01-01-2007, 04:56 PM

Happy New Year right back at ya, POMH!!!

What to do... what to do..... !

(It sure is fun, doing the research, though!

)

01-01-2007, 06:13 PM

Happy New Year!!! You're killing me with the United Church of Red. ROFLMAO!!!

11/13 that's a new one to me. That guy is really out there and is over analyzing everything. The lights cannot produce visible light after the power is turned off for 1 to 2 hours. I can't see where losing a hour of light and the growth that goes with it will help at all. If anything reducing the light cycle might trigger a hermie.

I'd stick to the tried and true on my first grow.

I2KanGrow · 01-01-2007, 06:37 PM

Hey RED!!!!

Happy New Year!

Actually, I waffled about a 1/2 hour ago, and put my timers back to 12/12 (I'm such a wimp!!).

Yeah, I was reading my own metaphor into the "time for plants to fall asleep" thing... I was thinking that, while the lights were actually on, perhaps CFL's didn't have that wavelength he describes HPS as having, so CFL's light behavior would be the equivalent of having a really strong cup of coffee in their wavelengths, and HPS lamps have that particular wavelength that acts kinda like a couple of Benedryl, keeping the plants really mellow (duuuuuude) throughout the "day"...

whew ... did I digress there???

OK -Red, Question: WTF is ROFLMAO?????

pieceofmyheart · 01-01-2007, 06:40 PM

heehee I remember when I asked that same question lol

ROFLMAO - rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off

01-01-2007, 07:49 AM	#1
I2KanGrow Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 582	11/13 CFL flowering light cycle??? So, I'm browsing the boards when I come across THIS THREAD. Look at post #8 - DeadlyFoez states that with CFLs, it takes longer for the plants to settle into "sleep", during the dark cycle - he then goes into explanation of certain light wave lengths which are not given-off w/ CFLs - causing the plants to stay awake for an extra hour or 2 after dark. Has anyone heard this theory? He suggests an 11/13 CFL flower cycle. I read DeadlyFoez thread (in his signature - his automated grow cab)... wow, he certainly sounds like he knows what he's doing!!! Thoughts???? __________________ Proud member of the 150w HPS Club First Grow with the new 150w MH/HPS Hydro-Cab ...HARVESTED!... My Au Natural outdoor grow - 1 plant/No help Making Cannabis Tincture
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01-01-2007, 04:26 PM	#4
I2KanGrow Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 582	Hey Sunset... meant to get back to ya, but New Years, the family.... 1st & Formost, Welcome & happy New Year!! Yup, we certainly have budsign now - I'll post a picture tomorrow. I also decided to switch to 11/13 lighting, just for giggles. My biggest problem will be in choosing which buds to "sacrifice" for the overall good. I've been attending "The United Church of Red" - and Red_Greenery suggests 9 main colas/plant in a 2 plant rubbermaid: man-o-man, I have a pile more then that... so I just keep tuckin' & tyin' for now. How 'bout you, you mentioned that you just flipped to 12/12.... Got Bud????? I invested in Female Seeds: Northern Light & White Widow - they've lived up to their name and are indeed, of the fair persuasion. Good luck - here's to girls!!!! __________________ Proud member of the 150w HPS Club First Grow with the new 150w MH/HPS Hydro-Cab ...HARVESTED!... My Au Natural outdoor grow - 1 plant/No help Making Cannabis Tincture
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01-01-2007, 04:32 PM	#6
I2KanGrow Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 582	Hey NOKUY! Well, now I'm conflicted!!! I have nothing but time - no deadlines... and I can be patient. First and formost, I'm looking to maximize yield (and who isn't!! ), I don't want to mess w/ that! I'm going to research some more, I'll leave them in 11/13 for now, until I can find either quality research proving or disproving, if I find nothing else - I'll revert back to 12/12 in a few days. Did you get a chance to check his signature thread... pretty sick, eh?? __________________ Proud member of the 150w HPS Club First Grow with the new 150w MH/HPS Hydro-Cab ...HARVESTED!... My Au Natural outdoor grow - 1 plant/No help Making Cannabis Tincture
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01-01-2007, 04:56 PM	#7
I2KanGrow Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 582	Happy New Year right back at ya, POMH!!! What to do... what to do..... ! (It sure is fun, doing the research, though! ) __________________ Proud member of the 150w HPS Club First Grow with the new 150w MH/HPS Hydro-Cab ...HARVESTED!... My Au Natural outdoor grow - 1 plant/No help Making Cannabis Tincture
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01-01-2007, 06:37 PM	#9
I2KanGrow Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 582	Hey RED!!!! Happy New Year! Actually, I waffled about a 1/2 hour ago, and put my timers back to 12/12 (I'm such a wimp!!). Yeah, I was reading my own metaphor into the "time for plants to fall asleep" thing... I was thinking that, while the lights were actually on, perhaps CFL's didn't have that wavelength he describes HPS as having, so CFL's light behavior would be the equivalent of having a really strong cup of coffee in their wavelengths, and HPS lamps have that particular wavelength that acts kinda like a couple of Benedryl, keeping the plants really mellow (duuuuuude) throughout the "day"... whew ... did I digress there??? OK -Red, Question: WTF is ROFLMAO????? __________________ Proud member of the 150w HPS Club First Grow with the new 150w MH/HPS Hydro-Cab ...HARVESTED!... My Au Natural outdoor grow - 1 plant/No help Making Cannabis Tincture
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01-01-2007, 07:57 AM	#2
Sunset Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 96	Well, it kinda makes sense. Butt heck what do I know... How's your 12/12 going? Pretty good?
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01-01-2007, 04:30 PM	#5
pieceofmyheart Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: my secret garden Posts: 1,854	Hi sweetie Happy New Year to ya! I say if you are following Red....you can't go wrong. I have taken a lot of his advice with most excellent results everytime.
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01-01-2007, 06:13 PM	#8
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Happy New Year!!! You're killing me with the United Church of Red. ROFLMAO!!! 11/13 that's a new one to me. That guy is really out there and is over analyzing everything. The lights cannot produce visible light after the power is turned off for 1 to 2 hours. I can't see where losing a hour of light and the growth that goes with it will help at all. If anything reducing the light cycle might trigger a hermie. I'd stick to the tried and true on my first grow.
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01-01-2007, 06:40 PM	#10
pieceofmyheart Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: my secret garden Posts: 1,854	heehee I remember when I asked that same question lol ROFLMAO - rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off
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