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KingRalph · 12-30-2006, 07:48 AM

taking out the text of the newly passed bill for unwanted internet link purposes....

basically they can open packages without warrant or anything now, like the private shipping companies. so make things SMALL and DISCREET.

resinryder · 12-30-2006, 09:32 AM

You know the problem with all of this? A VERY large percentage of the population DON'T CARE. It suprises me the number of people, young and older, who feel it's ok to give up a little of their rights/freedoms to "feel" safer. You've got a better chance of busting through a brick wall with your head than changing their mindset about it. Sad times are ahead my friends unless we let elected leaders know they will be replaced if things continue along the same route.

mrwags · 12-30-2006, 08:41 PM

Well we all know in the US 95% of the population are followers and the government knows it as well. The saddest part is if the 5% spoke up and said hey fu the other 95% would smash them like a bug hence all the secretive poop we gotta go through to carry on our hobby. To rehash the problems as to why this is the way it is imo is wasted energy. As stated we are a very small piece of the pie and as a whole all we can do is share the much needed information and hope we can stay out of sight of the 95% that wants us gone.

TY King
Mr.Wags

Lucky 7 · 12-30-2006, 10:49 PM

We edge ever closer to the Panopticon Society . . .

Wikipedia: The Panopticon is a type of prison building designed by English philosopher Jeremy Bentham in the late eighteenth century. The concept of the design is to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell if they are being observed or not, thus conveying a "sentiment of an invisible omniscience."

And: As the watchmen cannot be seen, they need not be on duty at all times, effectively leaving the watching to the watched.

In essence we are being watched nearly all the time, whether at traffic light cams, street cams, the freaking mail, our computers, or by our neighbors, whom our gov
encourages to RAT US OUT . .

It's a shame!!

Even our PETS are being trained! lol

Blazned · 12-30-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NY General

200 years, everything still the same. Most never have cared

Benjamin Franklin:
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security

This is true, and in the American Revolution less than 5% of the population here actually helped the cause against Britian, the rest were to chickenshit to take sides. As is the case today. Most of our population have been brainwashed into passivity, and even spout out the propaganda of the enemies of freedom. Most Americans only care about the 1.3 kids, the car they drive and their "hobbies", outside of this, they could care less that we are "going to hell in a handbag" as far as freedom is concerned. Most just think you deserve to go to prison for growing weed, and think you are a lowlife drugdealing scumbag; not a free thinker who believes nothing is wrong with growing a plant. I believe in civil disobedience very much, and planting weed in very public places is a great form of this. If nothing else, see how long it grows before anyone notices.
I think that it is so ironic, that some of our greatest freedoms are being used to destroy our freedom. Ie:(free speech used by the media elite). whats worse is that most take it as gospel. That's truelly sad, a nation of cattle being "herded" where the elites want you. So pathetic people can't think for themselves anymore independent of someone elses agenda.

Dank-j · 12-31-2006, 01:30 AM

You could step on most Americans balls with steel cleats before even getting most of their attention. We are being taught not to care, but to only enjoy phystical lust, diet, and blinky lights (television)..

Only when we have no rights and freedoms, only then will the majority wake up and see the truth. The unfortinate thing is that I think by then it will be too late..

Take away my voice, my rights, my guns, my privacy.. Watch me on the streets, my mail, my books, my search logs.. What I eat and where I sleep.. But be warned, unlike most americans, I'll be watching them back and be waiting

I am a patriot, not a terrorist.. Remember that Bushy.

Viva la Revolution! It's gonna take some major changes.

dekab247 · 12-31-2006, 02:02 AM

I always had younger, or in a few cases older friends. What was especially funny to me was the younger friends parents. Most of them smoked. Dr.s who told me how to pass the piss test. Lawyers, and many others. If those who smoked spoke up. Or had the "stones" to do so. I truly believe we would out number the ones who don't smoke. Also I know many people who go out drinking. Bars, and such te pool leagues and all. What's funny to me. Is most of these people would rather see smoking legal even though they drink, and claimed they didn't smoke. I feel what needs to happen is others to speak up.

Personnaly I don't like coke, heroin, or other hard drugs. Yet if you do them in your own home. Don't bother me, or just flat out don't bother me with it. Why should it be an offense to me? Or an "offense" to the supposed law?

Pythagllio · 12-31-2006, 03:40 AM

Quote:

"I mean, who wouldn't wanna take a dump on ol' Georgie's face right after reading -that-??!!

Mmm, mmm, mmmm, and I just knocked back a pizza loaded with grilled onions and garlic shrimp...it's gonna be a stinky one for sure!

Still I would have to make sure the little perverted fuck wouldn't actually get off on that sort of thing.

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12-31-2006, 08:21 AM

Our libertys are being taken away little by little. Its only gonna get worse. I hate that fact. I agree with what most of you comment. I got the stones, what can we do?

Peace

Rare Groove · 12-31-2006, 08:49 AM

Anyone ever read the book Brave New World by Aldous Huxley? The comments about society's direction in this thread are reminding me of that story.

EDIT: Some interesting reading: https://www.huxley.net/.

12-30-2006, 07:48 AM	#1
KingRalph mellow jello Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 826	New Postal Service Guidelines courtesy focker Bush taking out the text of the newly passed bill for unwanted internet link purposes.... basically they can open packages without warrant or anything now, like the private shipping companies. so make things SMALL and DISCREET. __________________ all the flowers of tomorrow are in the seeds of today. Last edited by KingRalph; 01-07-2007 at 11:26 AM..
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12-30-2006, 09:32 AM	#2
resinryder Rubbing my glands together Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In a van down by the river!! Posts: 10,803	You know the problem with all of this? A VERY large percentage of the population DON'T CARE. It suprises me the number of people, young and older, who feel it's ok to give up a little of their rights/freedoms to "feel" safer. You've got a better chance of busting through a brick wall with your head than changing their mindset about it. Sad times are ahead my friends unless we let elected leaders know they will be replaced if things continue along the same route. __________________ I'll quit growing my meds the day they rip the bong from my cold dead hands! Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Even on a canna board.
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12-30-2006, 08:41 PM	#3
mrwags ********* Female Seeds Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,493	Well we all know in the US 95% of the population are followers and the government knows it as well. The saddest part is if the 5% spoke up and said hey fu the other 95% would smash them like a bug hence all the secretive poop we gotta go through to carry on our hobby. To rehash the problems as to why this is the way it is imo is wasted energy. As stated we are a very small piece of the pie and as a whole all we can do is share the much needed information and hope we can stay out of sight of the 95% that wants us gone. TY King Mr.Wags __________________ Never Argue With The Ignorant Because They Will Simply Pull You Down To Their Level And Beat You With Experience So the idea of spreading the love is the disease and making sure it's done is the cure TY all for allowing me to get my treatment
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12-30-2006, 10:49 PM	#4
Lucky 7 Grow Room Manager Join Date: May 2005 Location: Point Sur Posts: 920	We edge ever closer to the Panopticon Society . . . Wikipedia: The Panopticon is a type of prison building designed by English philosopher Jeremy Bentham in the late eighteenth century. The concept of the design is to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell if they are being observed or not, thus conveying a "sentiment of an invisible omniscience." And: As the watchmen cannot be seen, they need not be on duty at all times, effectively leaving the watching to the watched. In essence we are being watched nearly all the time, whether at traffic light cams, street cams, the freaking mail, our computers, or by our neighbors, whom our gov encourages to RAT US OUT . . It's a shame!! Even our PETS are being trained! lol __________________ It sounded very good inside my head, but then something happened on the way out . . . Julian: "Nothing can possibly go wrong with this plan!" Last edited by Lucky 7; 12-30-2006 at 10:51 PM..
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12-31-2006, 01:30 AM	#6
Dank-j Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: BigSky Posts: 278	You could step on most Americans balls with steel cleats before even getting most of their attention. We are being taught not to care, but to only enjoy phystical lust, diet, and blinky lights (television).. Only when we have no rights and freedoms, only then will the majority wake up and see the truth. The unfortinate thing is that I think by then it will be too late.. Take away my voice, my rights, my guns, my privacy.. Watch me on the streets, my mail, my books, my search logs.. What I eat and where I sleep.. But be warned, unlike most americans, I'll be watching them back and be waiting I am a patriot, not a terrorist.. Remember that Bushy. Viva la Revolution! It's gonna take some major changes. Last edited by Dank-j; 12-31-2006 at 01:33 AM..
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12-31-2006, 02:02 AM	#7
dekab247 Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: stoneyville Posts: 147	I always had younger, or in a few cases older friends. What was especially funny to me was the younger friends parents. Most of them smoked. Dr.s who told me how to pass the piss test. Lawyers, and many others. If those who smoked spoke up. Or had the "stones" to do so. I truly believe we would out number the ones who don't smoke. Also I know many people who go out drinking. Bars, and such te pool leagues and all. What's funny to me. Is most of these people would rather see smoking legal even though they drink, and claimed they didn't smoke. I feel what needs to happen is others to speak up. Personnaly I don't like coke, heroin, or other hard drugs. Yet if you do them in your own home. Don't bother me, or just flat out don't bother me with it. Why should it be an offense to me? Or an "offense" to the supposed law?
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12-31-2006, 08:21 AM	#9
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Our libertys are being taken away little by little. Its only gonna get worse. I hate that fact. I agree with what most of you comment. I got the stones, what can we do? Peace
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12-31-2006, 08:49 AM	#10
Rare Groove The Loop Digga Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 105	Anyone ever read the book Brave New World by Aldous Huxley? The comments about society's direction in this thread are reminding me of that story. EDIT: Some interesting reading: https://www.huxley.net/. __________________ Indian Swamp Gungi Grow Method - From OG Rare Groove's "Server" Strawberry Diesel Run Last edited by Rare Groove; 12-31-2006 at 08:53 AM..
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