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nomoreschwag · 12-12-2006, 08:03 AM

After a couple grows in the new setup I think I've got it figured out well enough to do a diary to hopefully give other peeps some ideas. Granted that most of my knowledge was gotten from OG so I'm just passing it down.
And I'm just starting to flower two new strains to me, and I want a picture record for myself incase one of them turns out to be mother worthy I know what to do and not to do better...

I'm growing in a Mills Pride C-25 cab with air cooled hood and 400w HPS from HTGsupply.com. Passive intake through a 8"x8" dark room lavour and a 4" Vortex fan pushing air into a Cannon carbon filter keep the cab no more than 5 deg above ambient.

And the ladies in the cab are....

The plant on the left is supposedly Kwik Kali, and the one on the right is a cross that I've been working on for about a year now. I almost wonder if some stoned night early on before they got too distinguishable in the seed/seedling stage repotting or somthing the tags got mixed up on these two... These are new genetics for me and clones have been taken so I'm hopeing for something worth mothering.

I've done about 4 grows of this NL pheno now. I've just about got her all figured out

The twins. NL day 40 and 38

NL day 53

I'd go into a little more detail, but I just tried to smoke an NL AK mixed joint while writing this and now my brain is whistling a little. I gotta go eat something a lay down...peace

critique and question so we can all learn something

unknownone · 12-12-2006, 08:28 AM

Nice looking plants nomoreschwag, from one 400W cabbie to another.

Whose NL are you growing?

nomoreschwag · 12-12-2006, 05:49 PM

unknownone thanks dude! It may not be the most well utilized cab for space etc, but it produces more than enough bud for me to smoke, and its all top notch

I'm not sure who's NL it is. I got her in clone form about 6 months ago from a friend. I know that he bought a feminized pack of seeds, but thats about it.

More info on the grow(s).....

Soil
All of the plants except the two youngest ones are growin in LC's organic mix #1 (5 parts peat, 3 parts perlite, 2 parts castings, and 1 cup dolomite lime per cubic ft). After some of the readings from the 3LB that have been reserected by the 3BM over in the organics section I am using recycled organic soil...
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=34060
We'll see how well that works out for me.

Nutes
Pure Blend veg and bloom, Liquid Karma, Indonesian bat guano, and blackstrap molases is the only additives these plants have seen. I ordered some new goodies that showed up in the mail yesterday that I have yet to even open. I'm hopeing these AN products will help get my buds to the next level. Tarantula, Piranna, Grandma Engy's Fulvic Acid, and Final Phase.

nomoreschwag · 12-15-2006, 05:28 AM

Yesterday was water/feeding day for a couple of my plants. My 57 day NL got a shot of final phase along with the water. I haven't tried this before, so I'm hopeing it actually does something worthwhile. Harvest will be within the next week...

The two youngest plants both got a 3/4 strength feeding of PBP soil bloom, and a full strength additive application of LK, fulvic acid, tarantula, & piranna. The cross took it all like a champ and is showing no ill signs at all. The kwik kali on the other hand is showing a fairly decent case of nute burn. Which surprises me for a 3/4 organic feeding during a heavy growth stage... I'll give a decent flush of plain water when due and see how she likes that.

'The cross' (L) 'kwik kali' (R)

Nute burn

12-15-2006, 07:15 AM

go nomo

the nl looks real nice bro

what were the parents for your "cross"

nomoreschwag · 12-16-2006, 07:04 AM

UN - Thanks dude! Glad to see you stoppin in

It's so nice to have a mother plant that produces such uniform clones that are nice chunky and covered in crystals. What can I say, she makes me look good

The cross...My first grow I had a bagseed that took 85 days to flower. It wasn't a heavy yielder or that great of a plant, but the high was clean and heady with a decent spicey sweet taste. I crossed her with a nice looking squaty Ice male. Those offspring turned out much branchier, with tighter buds and more resin, and maintained a nice heady high. Unfortunatly the taste suffered for some reason... I crossed the best of those females with a Papaya that was so beautiful I almost cryed when balls started popping out. All the females from that batch had a nice sweet taste, so I'm hopeing that goes into this new cross. BagxIcexPapaya

The KK was actually showing burn spots instead of just some leaf curl when I got home today from work. She is currently in the process of a hard flush (2x container volume).

Both youngsters are starting to show the first signs of trichs out on the bud leaves. Looking like they're going to have the potential of being so resin producers

The twins are starting to get nice and chunky. Originally I topped them because they were about to outgrow my veg box way before there was room in the flower cab. Now that they are getting closer to harvest I'm thinking this NL pheno will be a higher yielder when topped... Its hard to tell, the single cole version sure does have a monster up top

nomoreschwag · 12-19-2006, 06:25 PM

I harvested the single cola NL tonight. I think 62 days...she yielded 150g wet, so if I lose 75% to water etc I should still end up with about 1.25 oz. Not too bad for a untrained plant under 2ft tall.

My problems continue with the KK. The flush has stopped the problem from spreading, but it hasn't improved yet either... My guess is that this strain preferes a lower soil ph than the rest that I have.

kindred1 · 12-25-2006, 09:34 AM

nce cab!

so you only have the single 8x8 intake? where does your cords enter the cab?
id love to see a few more pics of the setup.thanks alot

jaypee89 · 12-25-2006, 12:51 PM

brud....if only you took 10 minutes to tie down those girlies!

congrats on the succesful grow though, and MERRY CHRISTMAS!

nomoreschwag · 12-27-2006, 07:17 AM

kindred1 Ya the single 8x8 keeps me within a couple degrees of ambient. When the summer rolls around and ambient temps go up I might have to add another... The cords come in through a small hole at the top left of the cab. Its an ugly mess up there, but its light proof so who cares

. I think there are some more pics of the cab in my gallery. If you want to know something about the grow ask away.

jaypee89 thanks dude! I keep my plants under or right at 2ft tall. I think my 400 does a good enough job to just let them grow how they want at that height, I'm also kinda lazy when it comes to training... My last mother just got put into flower a couple days ago, and I've done a small amount of LST to her.

My new batch of clones just starting to show roots at the edges of the dixie cups. NL and some AK

The twins are at day 55 and 53. They will both start the 7-10 day flush with Final Phase tomorrow. Harvesting these two sounds like a good way to start the new year to me.

The KK's nute/ph problems have been fixed. It stunted her pretty bad and looks like it will add at least a couple weeks onto the harvest. My cross plant went bananas and is now in the hash bin. My two attempts at getting a new mother aren't looking so good right now

12-12-2006, 08:03 AM	#1
nomoreschwag Organic Grower Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: With Mary Jane Posts: 259	400w organic C-25... After a couple grows in the new setup I think I've got it figured out well enough to do a diary to hopefully give other peeps some ideas. Granted that most of my knowledge was gotten from OG so I'm just passing it down. And I'm just starting to flower two new strains to me, and I want a picture record for myself incase one of them turns out to be mother worthy I know what to do and not to do better... I'm growing in a Mills Pride C-25 cab with air cooled hood and 400w HPS from HTGsupply.com. Passive intake through a 8"x8" dark room lavour and a 4" Vortex fan pushing air into a Cannon carbon filter keep the cab no more than 5 deg above ambient. And the ladies in the cab are.... The plant on the left is supposedly Kwik Kali, and the one on the right is a cross that I've been working on for about a year now. I almost wonder if some stoned night early on before they got too distinguishable in the seed/seedling stage repotting or somthing the tags got mixed up on these two... These are new genetics for me and clones have been taken so I'm hopeing for something worth mothering. I've done about 4 grows of this NL pheno now. I've just about got her all figured out The twins. NL day 40 and 38 NL day 53 I'd go into a little more detail, but I just tried to smoke an NL AK mixed joint while writing this and now my brain is whistling a little. I gotta go eat something a lay down...peace critique and question so we can all learn something __________________ 400w organic C-25 Midwest Outdoors '07 Last edited by nomoreschwag; 12-15-2006 at 06:14 AM..
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12-12-2006, 08:28 AM	#2
unknownone Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 71	Nice looking plants nomoreschwag, from one 400W cabbie to another. Whose NL are you growing?
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12-12-2006, 05:49 PM	#3
nomoreschwag Organic Grower Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: With Mary Jane Posts: 259	unknownone thanks dude! It may not be the most well utilized cab for space etc, but it produces more than enough bud for me to smoke, and its all top notch I'm not sure who's NL it is. I got her in clone form about 6 months ago from a friend. I know that he bought a feminized pack of seeds, but thats about it. More info on the grow(s)..... Soil All of the plants except the two youngest ones are growin in LC's organic mix #1 (5 parts peat, 3 parts perlite, 2 parts castings, and 1 cup dolomite lime per cubic ft). After some of the readings from the 3LB that have been reserected by the 3BM over in the organics section I am using recycled organic soil... https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=34060 We'll see how well that works out for me. Nutes Pure Blend veg and bloom, Liquid Karma, Indonesian bat guano, and blackstrap molases is the only additives these plants have seen. I ordered some new goodies that showed up in the mail yesterday that I have yet to even open. I'm hopeing these AN products will help get my buds to the next level. Tarantula, Piranna, Grandma Engy's Fulvic Acid, and Final Phase. __________________ 400w organic C-25 Midwest Outdoors '07
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12-15-2006, 05:28 AM	#4
nomoreschwag Organic Grower Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: With Mary Jane Posts: 259	Update 12-14 Yesterday was water/feeding day for a couple of my plants. My 57 day NL got a shot of final phase along with the water. I haven't tried this before, so I'm hopeing it actually does something worthwhile. Harvest will be within the next week... The two youngest plants both got a 3/4 strength feeding of PBP soil bloom, and a full strength additive application of LK, fulvic acid, tarantula, & piranna. The cross took it all like a champ and is showing no ill signs at all. The kwik kali on the other hand is showing a fairly decent case of nute burn. Which surprises me for a 3/4 organic feeding during a heavy growth stage... I'll give a decent flush of plain water when due and see how she likes that. 'The cross' (L) 'kwik kali' (R) Nute burn __________________ 400w organic C-25 Midwest Outdoors '07 Last edited by nomoreschwag; 12-15-2006 at 05:34 AM..
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12-15-2006, 07:15 AM	#5
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	go nomo go nomo the nl looks real nice bro what were the parents for your "cross"
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12-16-2006, 07:04 AM	#6
nomoreschwag Organic Grower Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: With Mary Jane Posts: 259	12-15 UN - Thanks dude! Glad to see you stoppin in It's so nice to have a mother plant that produces such uniform clones that are nice chunky and covered in crystals. What can I say, she makes me look good The cross...My first grow I had a bagseed that took 85 days to flower. It wasn't a heavy yielder or that great of a plant, but the high was clean and heady with a decent spicey sweet taste. I crossed her with a nice looking squaty Ice male. Those offspring turned out much branchier, with tighter buds and more resin, and maintained a nice heady high. Unfortunatly the taste suffered for some reason... I crossed the best of those females with a Papaya that was so beautiful I almost cryed when balls started popping out. All the females from that batch had a nice sweet taste, so I'm hopeing that goes into this new cross. BagxIcexPapaya The KK was actually showing burn spots instead of just some leaf curl when I got home today from work. She is currently in the process of a hard flush (2x container volume). Both youngsters are starting to show the first signs of trichs out on the bud leaves. Looking like they're going to have the potential of being so resin producers The twins are starting to get nice and chunky. Originally I topped them because they were about to outgrow my veg box way before there was room in the flower cab. Now that they are getting closer to harvest I'm thinking this NL pheno will be a higher yielder when topped... Its hard to tell, the single cole version sure does have a monster up top __________________ 400w organic C-25 Midwest Outdoors '07 Last edited by nomoreschwag; 12-16-2006 at 07:31 AM..
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12-19-2006, 06:25 PM	#7
nomoreschwag Organic Grower Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: With Mary Jane Posts: 259	harvest I harvested the single cola NL tonight. I think 62 days...she yielded 150g wet, so if I lose 75% to water etc I should still end up with about 1.25 oz. Not too bad for a untrained plant under 2ft tall. My problems continue with the KK. The flush has stopped the problem from spreading, but it hasn't improved yet either... My guess is that this strain preferes a lower soil ph than the rest that I have. __________________ 400w organic C-25 Midwest Outdoors '07
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12-25-2006, 09:34 AM	#8
kindred1 Trich Hunter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 150	nce cab! so you only have the single 8x8 intake? where does your cords enter the cab? id love to see a few more pics of the setup.thanks alot Last edited by kindred1; 12-25-2006 at 09:35 AM..
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12-25-2006, 12:51 PM	#9
jaypee89 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 180	brud....if only you took 10 minutes to tie down those girlies! congrats on the succesful grow though, and MERRY CHRISTMAS! __________________ Grow #1 Outdoor Bagseed
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12-27-2006, 07:17 AM	#10
nomoreschwag Organic Grower Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: With Mary Jane Posts: 259	kindred1 Ya the single 8x8 keeps me within a couple degrees of ambient. When the summer rolls around and ambient temps go up I might have to add another... The cords come in through a small hole at the top left of the cab. Its an ugly mess up there, but its light proof so who cares . I think there are some more pics of the cab in my gallery. If you want to know something about the grow ask away. jaypee89 thanks dude! I keep my plants under or right at 2ft tall. I think my 400 does a good enough job to just let them grow how they want at that height, I'm also kinda lazy when it comes to training... My last mother just got put into flower a couple days ago, and I've done a small amount of LST to her. My new batch of clones just starting to show roots at the edges of the dixie cups. NL and some AK The twins are at day 55 and 53. They will both start the 7-10 day flush with Final Phase tomorrow. Harvesting these two sounds like a good way to start the new year to me. The KK's nute/ph problems have been fixed. It stunted her pretty bad and looks like it will add at least a couple weeks onto the harvest. My cross plant went bananas and is now in the hash bin. My two attempts at getting a new mother aren't looking so good right now __________________ 400w organic C-25 Midwest Outdoors '07
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