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You're right that the same minerals are in vitamins but how can you tell if they are in a form that the plant can absorb? I think the price of vitamins is a lot higher than plant fertilizer and most fertilizers have a recommended dosage to use.

[DrKatz420]

At the very least, it would be tough to figure out how much to mix in. Seems to me they would be very strong for plant applications, assuming they are even in the right forms to be absorbed, like Red greenery said. What I have heard of though, is people who use urine (diluted and sometimes fermented, and grow up if you're grossed out) as a veg fertilizer. You know how your pee gets yellower after taking multi-vitamins? That's because a lot of the vitamins and minerals pass through your body unabsorbed, and end up in your urine. Many people who fertilize this way will take multivitamins to make sure that their urine is full of everything the plant needs. I would look into this method if you're thinking about continuing with your idea. DO NOT use urine as fertilizer without diluting first, because it will burn the piss (pun intended) out of them.

Dr. Katz

And if you can't just picture the urine...
After reading my “all natural” multis and doesn’t look like no real bad things in them, but Red’s right, you would at least have to compare the ingredients to a store bought fertilizer. If the ingredients are the same do some math 'cus it will take much less then one pill I'm sure. I like my sushi wraps myself, I get some sushi and feed the extra wraps to my worms, some folks just add them to a tea.

remember there is a big difference between 0.01 and 0.001

Originally Posted by jessee

remember there is a big difference between 0.01 and 0.001

And if it worked a bottle of 100 would be like 10,000 feedings so could be cheap after all. Just because everybodies not doing it doesn't make it wrong do some research.

[five0addict]

if you give a brand name there might be a complete list of ingredients online.

[DrKatz420]

I'm a little rusty at chemistry, but I would try to get a general idea of the PPM's (parts per million) of mixing different amounts in a gallon of water, and aim for maybe 100-300. You could probably get better advice on that from hydro growers, which I am not. If you can't figure out how to convert, maybe you can find lists and amounts of ingredients on some common fertilizers and try to use them as a guide. Other than that, maybe start with 1/4 pill per gallon, and if that doesn't burn them, eventually try 1/2 pill per gallon. . . .You should also consider using molasses, because of its chelating properties (if you look it up you'll get a better explanation than I can give you). If you decide to do this however, make sure to do it not only to the water with the crushed pills, but the water with the diluted urine as well, to keep the experiment intact.

[alkbud]

Originally Posted by DrKatz420

I'm a little rusty at chemistry, but I would try to get a general idea of the PPM's (parts per million) of mixing different amounts in a gallon of water, and aim for maybe 100-300. You could probably get better advice on that from hydro growers, which I am not. If you can't figure out how to convert, maybe you can find lists and amounts of ingredients on some common fertilizers and try to use them as a guide. Other than that, maybe start with 1/4 pill per gallon, and if that doesn't burn them, eventually try 1/2 pill per gallon. . . .You should also consider using molasses, because of its chelating properties (if you look it up you'll get a better explanation than I can give you). If you decide to do this however, make sure to do it not only to the water with the crushed pills, but the water with the diluted urine as well, to keep the experiment intact.

hey katz,

Same here, i am a bit rusty at chemistry and ppm's. used to do it back in high school but that was years ago!! also eversince i've been growing ive never used ppm's concentrations to feed my soil plants, so if any of you hydro growers out there could chime in that would be great!!

1/4-1/2 a pill to start with sounds about right. already gots the molasses just waiting for my babies to pop out of the soil.

if i understand correctly what you trying to say is that all the plants should be fed the diluted urine and the ones im experimenting with have the crushed pill added?

well that was my idea in the beginning but then i changed my mind because of a potential problem that could arise. if urine is used in both samples how will i be able to distinguish the effectiveness of the unkown (crushed pill) when the plants are goin to be growing. i already know that urine works, what im now testing is the feasability of using multivitamins as a source of nutrition to grow plants.
so to have a more conclusive test it would be better for them to be used seperately. so that i'll know the effects of the pills if any.

control

- 2 seeds fed with urine (any other fertiliser could be substituted with the urine)


variable

- 2 seeds fed the crushed up pills mixed with water

cheers