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ezbake · 12-10-2006, 12:53 AM

Hello!

This one is for Mike and anyone who has experience!

I am mainly talking about the strains with medical potential, Hashberry Sadhu Satori and Kalichakra - but if you have experience with any of their other strains and would like to share that is fine

How do the mandala strains compare to famous strains / cannabis cup winners?

For example, how do they compare to things like:
G13
Kush
Haze
White Widow
Sensi Star
Lots more I could name

I've heard Mandala has very good genetics, and ultimately the end product is determined by the grower, however, would Mandala strains be just as good as strains listed above?

When I say, just as good, I mean: potency, flavor, aroma, bag appeal, etc

And yes I know something with the name White Widow will have more appeal than something with a lesser known name, however, lets say you left the name of the strain out of it. Just potency, flavor, aroma, and bag appeal (the look of the dried cured bud)

I realize all strains are different so it's hard to call something "just as good" but there is a certain level of quality that a lot of strains produce, and that is the quality I am looking for in mandala - hope that clarifies it.

This question is mostly for Mike but if you know the answer feel free to chime in - The way people created G13, White Widow, and other powerful famous strains is just mixing different strains, correct? And basically, that is what Mandala does, right? You mix different strains to get a unique strain of your own, am I right on this? So if that's true, there's not much of a difference between your strains and other famous strains.

Thanks!

ezbake · 12-10-2006, 02:48 AM

Here's descriptions and images if this helps anyone, taken from www.mandalaseeds.com ...

Type: mostly indica
Contains land race genetics from: North India (Kashmir)
Cultivation: indoor/outdoor (up to 45° latitude, balcony, greenhouse)
Light: 400 W/m2
Flowering time: 60-65 days/September - 1. week October
Yield: 400-450 gr/m2; 14-16 oz/sq. ft. (dry weight)
High: the classic chill-out weed; an expansive indica stone with a powerful high that sets in with the first lungfull of smoke; the buzz is first light-headed and very balanced before switching to a stronger narcotic phase towards the end of your flight.
Aroma: fruity-berry; blackcurrent jam; hashy
Medical use: Hashberry shows medical potential against anxiety and sleep disorders; it has calming effects for pain relief.

HASHBERRY

With this exceptional new strain we are building upon our successful breeding lines to offer growers an indica that combines the best of many traits. Hashberry is the unique result from a rigorous selection of desirable parents, with special attention paid to preserve the hybrid vigor our strains are so valued for. This indica will grow to a medium height and is a good choice where space matters and excellent for SOG. Hashberry develops a tight and heavy head bud with dense buds located on her firm side shoots. You will notice that many plants cover the bud leaves with a coat of THC glands and these will fill your pollinator/bubble bags generously. This strain still remains easy to manicure, and the dried buds have great “bag appeal”. The buds reveal a refreshing fruity-floral scent during the flowering period. After proper drying and maturation their fragrance transforms into a delicious hashy-berry like aroma. Hashberry not only has hybrid vigor, but is also very heat resistant and easy to grow. We recommend keeping humidity levels and watering low during the last 2 weeks of flowering to prevent any mold in the compact top buds.

ezbake · 12-10-2006, 02:52 AM

Type: indica-sativa
Contains land race genetics from: North India (Kashmir)
Cultivation: indoor/outdoor
Light: 400 W/m2
Flowering time: 60-65 days/September - 1. week October
Yield: 400-450 gr/m2 (dry weight)
High: you can relax and unwind with this strong, yet gentle, psychoactive high that makes your mind fly while your body stays in a state of relaxation. This indica is seldom narcotic if harvested timely and is perfect for those after work hours or lazy afternoons.
Aroma: fruity melon; sweet or candy-like; earthy; some spice
Medical Use: Sadhu assists against stress; nervousness; sleep disorders; it has shown anti-depressive properties.

SADHU

Sadhu is a combination of a specially adapted landrace male from the Himalayan heights and one of our short flowering indica-sativa hybrids. This variety is a hommage to the legendary ganja from the Indian high altitude valleys, and to the wandering ascetics or sadhus, who keep the tradition of cannabis cultivation, it’s ritual and recreational use, alive. With our new 2006 seed stock, the uniformity of the flowering time and height among individual plants has been improved through enhanced breeding, without losing any of the hybrid vigor. Sadhu is now our shortest indica with a very robust and compact stature ideal for small/low grow spaces, or incognito balcony grows. This strain is best choice for a high yielding and potent indica grow with a minimum of effort. Outdoor cultivation is possible up to the 45° latitude, and in all climates with a dry autumn. Excellent results can be achieved in the greenhouse as with all other Mandala strains. Although special care is always taken to increase mold resistance in our breeding lines, this does remain an indica with a tight bud structure, therefore some plants may react sensitive to high humidity. For optimal results keep humidity and watering low in the last 2 weeks of flowering and check the headbuds at least once before harvest. Her resiny leaves can produce wonderfully fragrant hash of finest quality. The mild, earthy, sweet-spicy bouquet of the dried flowers reminds one of oriental bazaars and hand-rolled charras.

ezbake · 12-10-2006, 02:58 AM

Type: sativa-indica
Contains land race genetics from: South India / S.E.Asia
Cultivation: indoor/outdoor
Light: 400 W/m2
Flowering time: 63-68 days/October
Yield: 500-550 gr/m2 (dry weight)
High: a potent, sativa high with an energizing body effect; sensual and stimulating. Good for active recreation, but heavy indulgance can lead to a temporary state of being blissed-out; excellent potency despite long-term regular use.
Aroma (dry): fruity-floral; earthy; incense
Medical Use: Kalichakra shows her therapeutic potential in pain relief and helping against depression.

KALICHAKRA

Kalichakra is named after the Indian goddess Kali (a consort of the ganja smoking Lord Shiva) to symbolize the power of this hardy, potent, high-yielding sativa. Unlike typical sativas she develops extremely well indoor with vigorous growth and sturdy stems. This hybrid vigor, and the unique land race traits, make her surprisingly adaptable and easy to grow, and a good choice for novice gardeners. mother plants provide clones easily and quickly. The cuttings can be placed into flowering early for cultivating shorter plants in trays, grow boxes, etc., or to shorten flowering time. We recommend this strain for SOG as well. In hydroponics rapid growth can be expected. She responds well to being tied down and grows an impressively large main cola from the even light distribution. The high calyx-to-leaf ratio and frosty coating of trichomes contribute to the exceptional quality of the ripe flowers. The plants possess on average a good mold and pest resistance thanks to our dedicated breeding goals in minimizing undesirable genetic traits. Up to the 45° latitude Kalichakra delivers bumper yields outdoor and is one of the best strains available for hot/southern climates. In northern climates she has also performed well but results depend on plant care, local weather, and phenotype.

ezbake · 12-10-2006, 03:02 AM

Type: sativa-indica
Contains land race genetics from: Nepal
Cultivation: indoor/outdoor
Flowering time: 65-70 days/October
NEW: now with a shorter flowering time.
Yield: 550-600 gr/m2 (dry weight)
High: a clear, cerebral high and strong potency sets in quickly; it supports concentration & creativity; very inspiring and stimulating. Ideal for writers, artists, musicians, or other creative people.
Aroma: spicy; fruity-citrus; pungent
Medical Use: Satori shows her therapeutic potential in relieving depression and anxiety.

SATORI

This season we are introducing our new Satori. We have refined this strain genetically to produce an even more reliable and powerful cross that will delight your connoisseur heart. Satori is an exceptionally easy to grow sativa. She has shown impressive hardiness against spider mites and other pests, and she posseses a good measure of mold resistance. her slim appearance makes it possible to plant in narrow rows, or in SOG, to maximize her typical record yields even more. The firm sideshoots provide highest quality cuttings. As with all our sativas she is heat resistant - an added bonus for small indoor environments and hot summer grows. The mainly sweet & fruity-spicy aroma is a real treat for the senses. Satori grows a long headbud with chunky flowers and does not require much feeding on soil; you can almost do without feeding provided you use quality soil and sufficient pot size (approx. 2 gallon pots for adult plants under 250-600W lamps). Keep EC levels low in hydroponics for best results. All Mandala strains are extremely efficient in nutrient uptake due to their hybrid vigor and require only low EC levels/feeding to develop huge leaf, stem and bud structure. Satori is a high yielding, powerful plant with an exceptional sativa high. The heavy buds are easy to manicure, and from the resinous bud leaves you can produce finest grade hash, comparable in quality to the famous Nepalese “temple balls”.

ezbake · 12-10-2006, 03:10 AM

Now for the comparisons...

White Widow

Sensi Star

G13

Kush

ezbake · 12-10-2006, 03:12 AM

Ok so we have 4 medical strains from mandala, their descriptions and pictures. And then we have some pictures of other top strains.

After comparing them all how does everyone think these mandala strains compare?

From the pictures, the amount of crystals and calyx-to-leaf ratio looks just as good to me. And I wouldn't hesitate to say mandala genetics could be just as good with the right grower.

Pops · 12-10-2006, 03:19 AM

ezbake, I have never tried Mandala strains myself, but am interested in them as well, as they seem to be good value for the money. If Mike answers, I would like to find out if any of his strains are good for tree grows. It seems that most growers and breeders give info for sog or scrog grows, and it is impossible to know if that variety will do well in a tree grow. It seems that pure indicas do not do as well in a tree grow, as they do not stretch as much and do not reach the size indoors that is necessary for a tree grow, even with an 8 week veg period.

ezbake · 12-10-2006, 03:25 AM

Could you explain what a tree grow is , ive never heard that before, thanx

Pops · 12-10-2006, 03:41 AM

A tree grow is basically letting your plants veg until they are about 3 feet high, and then flowering them. A good sativa, indica mix will be about 6 feet tall or better at harvest. Yields will be 12 to 16 oz. in soil and up to 32-48 oz. in a perfectly run hydro operation. A bush grow will have plants about 3-4 ft. at harvest, and will have lower yields than a tree grow, though more plants can be put into the same area. A sog(sea of green) will have the most number of plants in a given area, but will have the least yield on a per plant basis, but could have the highest yield on a sq. footage basis. You might want to search the growers forum for tree, bush, sog or scrog to get a better idea that what I have posted. One of the major reasons for having a tree grow is to increase yields, while lowering plants counts for legal reasons. This is a very simplistic explanation. Hope it helps.

12-10-2006, 12:53 AM	#1
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	How does Mandala compare to famous "name brand" strains/cup winners? Hello! This one is for Mike and anyone who has experience! I am mainly talking about the strains with medical potential, Hashberry Sadhu Satori and Kalichakra - but if you have experience with any of their other strains and would like to share that is fine How do the mandala strains compare to famous strains / cannabis cup winners? For example, how do they compare to things like: G13 Kush Haze White Widow Sensi Star Lots more I could name I've heard Mandala has very good genetics, and ultimately the end product is determined by the grower, however, would Mandala strains be just as good as strains listed above? When I say, just as good, I mean: potency, flavor, aroma, bag appeal, etc And yes I know something with the name White Widow will have more appeal than something with a lesser known name, however, lets say you left the name of the strain out of it. Just potency, flavor, aroma, and bag appeal (the look of the dried cured bud) I realize all strains are different so it's hard to call something "just as good" but there is a certain level of quality that a lot of strains produce, and that is the quality I am looking for in mandala - hope that clarifies it. This question is mostly for Mike but if you know the answer feel free to chime in - The way people created G13, White Widow, and other powerful famous strains is just mixing different strains, correct? And basically, that is what Mandala does, right? You mix different strains to get a unique strain of your own, am I right on this? So if that's true, there's not much of a difference between your strains and other famous strains. Thanks! Last edited by ezbake; 12-10-2006 at 03:24 AM..
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12-10-2006, 02:48 AM	#2
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	Here's descriptions and images if this helps anyone, taken from www.mandalaseeds.com ... Type: mostly indica Contains land race genetics from: North India (Kashmir) Cultivation: indoor/outdoor (up to 45° latitude, balcony, greenhouse) Light: 400 W/m2 Flowering time: 60-65 days/September - 1. week October Yield: 400-450 gr/m2; 14-16 oz/sq. ft. (dry weight) High: the classic chill-out weed; an expansive indica stone with a powerful high that sets in with the first lungfull of smoke; the buzz is first light-headed and very balanced before switching to a stronger narcotic phase towards the end of your flight. Aroma: fruity-berry; blackcurrent jam; hashy Medical use: Hashberry shows medical potential against anxiety and sleep disorders; it has calming effects for pain relief. HASHBERRY With this exceptional new strain we are building upon our successful breeding lines to offer growers an indica that combines the best of many traits. Hashberry is the unique result from a rigorous selection of desirable parents, with special attention paid to preserve the hybrid vigor our strains are so valued for. This indica will grow to a medium height and is a good choice where space matters and excellent for SOG. Hashberry develops a tight and heavy head bud with dense buds located on her firm side shoots. You will notice that many plants cover the bud leaves with a coat of THC glands and these will fill your pollinator/bubble bags generously. This strain still remains easy to manicure, and the dried buds have great “bag appeal”. The buds reveal a refreshing fruity-floral scent during the flowering period. After proper drying and maturation their fragrance transforms into a delicious hashy-berry like aroma. Hashberry not only has hybrid vigor, but is also very heat resistant and easy to grow. We recommend keeping humidity levels and watering low during the last 2 weeks of flowering to prevent any mold in the compact top buds. Last edited by ezbake; 12-10-2006 at 02:53 AM..
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12-10-2006, 02:52 AM	#3
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	Type: indica-sativa Contains land race genetics from: North India (Kashmir) Cultivation: indoor/outdoor Light: 400 W/m2 Flowering time: 60-65 days/September - 1. week October Yield: 400-450 gr/m2 (dry weight) High: you can relax and unwind with this strong, yet gentle, psychoactive high that makes your mind fly while your body stays in a state of relaxation. This indica is seldom narcotic if harvested timely and is perfect for those after work hours or lazy afternoons. Aroma: fruity melon; sweet or candy-like; earthy; some spice Medical Use: Sadhu assists against stress; nervousness; sleep disorders; it has shown anti-depressive properties. SADHU Sadhu is a combination of a specially adapted landrace male from the Himalayan heights and one of our short flowering indica-sativa hybrids. This variety is a hommage to the legendary ganja from the Indian high altitude valleys, and to the wandering ascetics or sadhus, who keep the tradition of cannabis cultivation, it’s ritual and recreational use, alive. With our new 2006 seed stock, the uniformity of the flowering time and height among individual plants has been improved through enhanced breeding, without losing any of the hybrid vigor. Sadhu is now our shortest indica with a very robust and compact stature ideal for small/low grow spaces, or incognito balcony grows. This strain is best choice for a high yielding and potent indica grow with a minimum of effort. Outdoor cultivation is possible up to the 45° latitude, and in all climates with a dry autumn. Excellent results can be achieved in the greenhouse as with all other Mandala strains. Although special care is always taken to increase mold resistance in our breeding lines, this does remain an indica with a tight bud structure, therefore some plants may react sensitive to high humidity. For optimal results keep humidity and watering low in the last 2 weeks of flowering and check the headbuds at least once before harvest. Her resiny leaves can produce wonderfully fragrant hash of finest quality. The mild, earthy, sweet-spicy bouquet of the dried flowers reminds one of oriental bazaars and hand-rolled charras. Last edited by ezbake; 12-10-2006 at 03:16 AM..
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12-10-2006, 02:58 AM	#4
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	Type: sativa-indica Contains land race genetics from: South India / S.E.Asia Cultivation: indoor/outdoor Light: 400 W/m2 Flowering time: 63-68 days/October Yield: 500-550 gr/m2 (dry weight) High: a potent, sativa high with an energizing body effect; sensual and stimulating. Good for active recreation, but heavy indulgance can lead to a temporary state of being blissed-out; excellent potency despite long-term regular use. Aroma (dry): fruity-floral; earthy; incense Medical Use: Kalichakra shows her therapeutic potential in pain relief and helping against depression. KALICHAKRA Kalichakra is named after the Indian goddess Kali (a consort of the ganja smoking Lord Shiva) to symbolize the power of this hardy, potent, high-yielding sativa. Unlike typical sativas she develops extremely well indoor with vigorous growth and sturdy stems. This hybrid vigor, and the unique land race traits, make her surprisingly adaptable and easy to grow, and a good choice for novice gardeners. mother plants provide clones easily and quickly. The cuttings can be placed into flowering early for cultivating shorter plants in trays, grow boxes, etc., or to shorten flowering time. We recommend this strain for SOG as well. In hydroponics rapid growth can be expected. She responds well to being tied down and grows an impressively large main cola from the even light distribution. The high calyx-to-leaf ratio and frosty coating of trichomes contribute to the exceptional quality of the ripe flowers. The plants possess on average a good mold and pest resistance thanks to our dedicated breeding goals in minimizing undesirable genetic traits. Up to the 45° latitude Kalichakra delivers bumper yields outdoor and is one of the best strains available for hot/southern climates. In northern climates she has also performed well but results depend on plant care, local weather, and phenotype.
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12-10-2006, 03:02 AM	#5
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	Type: sativa-indica Contains land race genetics from: Nepal Cultivation: indoor/outdoor Flowering time: 65-70 days/October NEW: now with a shorter flowering time. Yield: 550-600 gr/m2 (dry weight) High: a clear, cerebral high and strong potency sets in quickly; it supports concentration & creativity; very inspiring and stimulating. Ideal for writers, artists, musicians, or other creative people. Aroma: spicy; fruity-citrus; pungent Medical Use: Satori shows her therapeutic potential in relieving depression and anxiety. SATORI This season we are introducing our new Satori. We have refined this strain genetically to produce an even more reliable and powerful cross that will delight your connoisseur heart. Satori is an exceptionally easy to grow sativa. She has shown impressive hardiness against spider mites and other pests, and she posseses a good measure of mold resistance. her slim appearance makes it possible to plant in narrow rows, or in SOG, to maximize her typical record yields even more. The firm sideshoots provide highest quality cuttings. As with all our sativas she is heat resistant - an added bonus for small indoor environments and hot summer grows. The mainly sweet & fruity-spicy aroma is a real treat for the senses. Satori grows a long headbud with chunky flowers and does not require much feeding on soil; you can almost do without feeding provided you use quality soil and sufficient pot size (approx. 2 gallon pots for adult plants under 250-600W lamps). Keep EC levels low in hydroponics for best results. All Mandala strains are extremely efficient in nutrient uptake due to their hybrid vigor and require only low EC levels/feeding to develop huge leaf, stem and bud structure. Satori is a high yielding, powerful plant with an exceptional sativa high. The heavy buds are easy to manicure, and from the resinous bud leaves you can produce finest grade hash, comparable in quality to the famous Nepalese “temple balls”.
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12-10-2006, 03:10 AM	#6
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	Now for the comparisons... White Widow Sensi Star G13 Kush
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12-10-2006, 03:12 AM	#7
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	Ok so we have 4 medical strains from mandala, their descriptions and pictures. And then we have some pictures of other top strains. After comparing them all how does everyone think these mandala strains compare? From the pictures, the amount of crystals and calyx-to-leaf ratio looks just as good to me. And I wouldn't hesitate to say mandala genetics could be just as good with the right grower.
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12-10-2006, 03:19 AM	#8
Pops Resident pissy old man Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: someplace hotter than hell Posts: 3,053	ezbake, I have never tried Mandala strains myself, but am interested in them as well, as they seem to be good value for the money. If Mike answers, I would like to find out if any of his strains are good for tree grows. It seems that most growers and breeders give info for sog or scrog grows, and it is impossible to know if that variety will do well in a tree grow. It seems that pure indicas do not do as well in a tree grow, as they do not stretch as much and do not reach the size indoors that is necessary for a tree grow, even with an 8 week veg period. Last edited by Pops; 12-10-2006 at 03:43 AM..
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12-10-2006, 03:25 AM	#9
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	Could you explain what a tree grow is , ive never heard that before, thanx
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12-10-2006, 03:41 AM	#10
Pops Resident pissy old man Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: someplace hotter than hell Posts: 3,053	A tree grow is basically letting your plants veg until they are about 3 feet high, and then flowering them. A good sativa, indica mix will be about 6 feet tall or better at harvest. Yields will be 12 to 16 oz. in soil and up to 32-48 oz. in a perfectly run hydro operation. A bush grow will have plants about 3-4 ft. at harvest, and will have lower yields than a tree grow, though more plants can be put into the same area. A sog(sea of green) will have the most number of plants in a given area, but will have the least yield on a per plant basis, but could have the highest yield on a sq. footage basis. You might want to search the growers forum for tree, bush, sog or scrog to get a better idea that what I have posted. One of the major reasons for having a tree grow is to increase yields, while lowering plants counts for legal reasons. This is a very simplistic explanation. Hope it helps. Last edited by Pops; 12-10-2006 at 03:42 AM..
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