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12-08-2006, 12:42 PM

Well here is my fourth go round in this little world of Cannabis. For the first time I want to show it with everyone where. I retooled the room this time around. I moved out of the buckets and into trays.

The System is an Ebb n Flow DWC hybrid. I guess I call it that because it looks like an Ebb and Flow system, it just has no Ebb only flow. I have Airstones in both the tray and Res. With a small pump circulating the water through out.
This is a two tray system. and they will run independant of each other so I can perpetual crop. Each tray is lit with a 400w HPS. I know 800 watts in about 10-11 square feet is a little much but what the hey. I can keep the temps in the low 80's even on the hottest summer days. Not that they get to hot in oregon.

I use PBP and its family of additives. LK, Cal Mag when needed, and hydrogaurd. Along with Top max for Boost.

Ice Plant #1

Ice Plant #2

they are about 6 weeks old. And went into the flowering room on tuesday. After having some root issues. IE the construction wasnt done before there was roots flying out of the hydroton pots. They are not doing quite a bit better. I am trying to learn good trimming and pruneing skills Anyone have ideas. On these girls I am looking for the four main cola approch if that is possible with Ice.

All help is welcome thanks for peeking in

pico · 12-08-2006, 07:23 PM

nice one.

At what strength do you use the PBP?

12-09-2006, 12:14 AM

Ummm....Lets see I dont ever write it down. I just mix by what the plants look like.

15-20ml/ gal of PBP or there abouts. Bloom for Soil
5-6ml/gal of LK
5-10ml/gal of Hydrogaurd
15-20 ml/gal of Sweet once the Flowers show.

Have never used a bloom booster such as top max but I am going to this time around.

BTW has anyone use Citrus Sweet. Was thinkin bout running that with some ATW once I get the other tray running.

12-10-2006, 10:21 AM

12/9/2006 Trimmed up the bottom nodes on plants 1 and 2 Put two of each in jiffy's and the other two in the fridge.

After testing the room for 48 hours. the Temps are 75 day time and 58 night time. But in about two weeks I will be starting up the second 400w light.

12-10-2006, 01:44 PM

hey man looking tops!

could be a worth while investment to stick ina heater for lights out, alot of growers say no more then 5 degree drop in night temps.works well for most.

i myself like pinching rather then chopping but hey thats me

good luck,im sure you will get it sorted

keep em green!

12-10-2006, 10:30 PM

I pinch the tops back but trim up some of the lower nodes.

Heater is a good idea. I am just a little afraid of a heater running with all that water around? I think I will hook my climate control box up to my intake fan. Might help without running more power.
thanks for the view

12-12-2006, 01:19 PM

12/12/2006

I love to tie everything down. My pot is like no other this is the begining of the LST

Ice Plant #1

Ice Plant #2

Start by tying them over hort. then start to pull out the shoots that come out from there.

Night time heat issue: plugging my intake fan into the climate control helped rasie the NT temp to 63 for a gain of 5. How do you guys heat?

12-16-2006, 10:13 AM

12/14/06:Experienced about 20 hours with out power...Only missed one light cycle. They are back swaying in the fan breeze just streching like good little bitches

12/16/06: Working more on the LST of my plants. Had been thinkin about doing a scrog. I think this might be the way I travel for awhile.. Likes that I can pull and bend the plant to my will. Should be able to fill in the space well and keep a low profile for the lights.

Ice #1

Ice #2

Would still like to hear some imput on the grow. How it look and such.

12-17-2006, 12:14 PM

12/17/06: Ice Plant #2 has shown first full hairs. I know that I started with female seeds. But there is still something about seeing those little white angels appear.

12-19-2006, 11:50 AM

To day is two weeks from the change to 12/12. Every two days I continue to retie and tie down new braches to keep these ladies as flat as I can.

Here are the newest pics of the ladies.

Ice #1

This girl if she were standing up would be about 1 foot tall. As you can see I have side branches tied out to the side as well.

Ice #2

This girl would is abou the same size as the #1. Maybe not quite as bushy so far.

My question to those of you who may be watching. When do i quit tying down branches and let them grow up to form colas? I could really use some help on the issue.

as you noticed the thread says there is three plants and in the pictures sometimes you can see the thrid girl. Was kind of an after thought will be a runt. Oh well.

12-08-2006, 12:42 PM	#1
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	ORPotGuy's First Diary of Ice. Well here is my fourth go round in this little world of Cannabis. For the first time I want to show it with everyone where. I retooled the room this time around. I moved out of the buckets and into trays. The System is an Ebb n Flow DWC hybrid. I guess I call it that because it looks like an Ebb and Flow system, it just has no Ebb only flow. I have Airstones in both the tray and Res. With a small pump circulating the water through out. This is a two tray system. and they will run independant of each other so I can perpetual crop. Each tray is lit with a 400w HPS. I know 800 watts in about 10-11 square feet is a little much but what the hey. I can keep the temps in the low 80's even on the hottest summer days. Not that they get to hot in oregon. I use PBP and its family of additives. LK, Cal Mag when needed, and hydrogaurd. Along with Top max for Boost. Ice Plant #1 Ice Plant #2 they are about 6 weeks old. And went into the flowering room on tuesday. After having some root issues. IE the construction wasnt done before there was roots flying out of the hydroton pots. They are not doing quite a bit better. I am trying to learn good trimming and pruneing skills Anyone have ideas. On these girls I am looking for the four main cola approch if that is possible with Ice. All help is welcome thanks for peeking in
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12-08-2006, 07:23 PM	#2
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12-09-2006, 12:14 AM	#3
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Ummm....Lets see I dont ever write it down. I just mix by what the plants look like. 15-20ml/ gal of PBP or there abouts. Bloom for Soil 5-6ml/gal of LK 5-10ml/gal of Hydrogaurd 15-20 ml/gal of Sweet once the Flowers show. Have never used a bloom booster such as top max but I am going to this time around. BTW has anyone use Citrus Sweet. Was thinkin bout running that with some ATW once I get the other tray running.
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12-10-2006, 10:21 AM	#4
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	12/9/2006 Trimmed up the bottom nodes on plants 1 and 2 Put two of each in jiffy's and the other two in the fridge. After testing the room for 48 hours. the Temps are 75 day time and 58 night time. But in about two weeks I will be starting up the second 400w light. Last edited by ORPotGuy82; 12-10-2006 at 12:11 PM..
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12-10-2006, 01:44 PM	#5
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	hey man looking tops! could be a worth while investment to stick ina heater for lights out, alot of growers say no more then 5 degree drop in night temps.works well for most. i myself like pinching rather then chopping but hey thats me good luck,im sure you will get it sorted keep em green!
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12-10-2006, 10:30 PM	#6
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	I pinch the tops back but trim up some of the lower nodes. Heater is a good idea. I am just a little afraid of a heater running with all that water around? I think I will hook my climate control box up to my intake fan. Might help without running more power. thanks for the view
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12-12-2006, 01:19 PM	#7
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	12/12/2006 I love to tie everything down. My pot is like no other this is the begining of the LST Ice Plant #1 Ice Plant #2 Start by tying them over hort. then start to pull out the shoots that come out from there. Night time heat issue: plugging my intake fan into the climate control helped rasie the NT temp to 63 for a gain of 5. How do you guys heat?
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12-16-2006, 10:13 AM	#8
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	12/14/06:Experienced about 20 hours with out power...Only missed one light cycle. They are back swaying in the fan breeze just streching like good little bitches 12/16/06: Working more on the LST of my plants. Had been thinkin about doing a scrog. I think this might be the way I travel for awhile.. Likes that I can pull and bend the plant to my will. Should be able to fill in the space well and keep a low profile for the lights. Ice #1 Ice #2 Would still like to hear some imput on the grow. How it look and such. Last edited by ORPotGuy82; 12-16-2006 at 11:59 AM..
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12-17-2006, 12:14 PM	#9
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	12/17/06: Ice Plant #2 has shown first full hairs. I know that I started with female seeds. But there is still something about seeing those little white angels appear.
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12-19-2006, 11:50 AM	#10
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	To day is two weeks from the change to 12/12. Every two days I continue to retie and tie down new braches to keep these ladies as flat as I can. Here are the newest pics of the ladies. Ice #1 This girl if she were standing up would be about 1 foot tall. As you can see I have side branches tied out to the side as well. Ice #2 This girl would is abou the same size as the #1. Maybe not quite as bushy so far. My question to those of you who may be watching. When do i quit tying down branches and let them grow up to form colas? I could really use some help on the issue. as you noticed the thread says there is three plants and in the pictures sometimes you can see the thrid girl. Was kind of an after thought will be a runt. Oh well. Last edited by ORPotGuy82; 12-19-2006 at 11:52 AM..
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