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Old 12-05-2006, 12:59 AM #1
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Satori/Kalichakra Question

Hello Mike!

After thinking long and hard about which of your strains to grow, I've decided I want some sativas in with my indicas. I want to grow Hashberry, Sadhu, Satori, and Kalichakra - your four medical strains.

Question 1, When you say the strain has potential to be medical for anxiety, etc, does that mean it might work for these medical uses or that it definately will?


If you remember my grow will be a SOG grow and I will only veg for 1 week.

I will have 2-3 plants per sq foot so it will be a little crowded but the plants will not be any taller than 1.5 feet.

Question 2, Will Satori and Kalichakra be okay for this grow? I will need them to stay slim and not branch out/bush out much, does this seem practical? The veg time will be no more than 1 week so they shouldn't bush out too much right? I want them to be mainly just a single cola and only a little side branches.

Question 3, Same question goes for Hashberry and Sadhu, im assuming since they are indica dominant they won't bush out much and will remain a main cola, is this correct?

My main concern is the sativas (Satori and Kalichakra) will be too bushy for the small space and create problems for my other plants, like shading light, etc.


Question 4, On your website you say Kalichakra will get you high despite regular use, does this mean smoking it everyday will lower your tolerance or what?

Question 5, The sativa high from these two strains is said to be energetic, and good for creative people like writers - The average smoker just likes to feel the high quickly and heavy, will the average smoker be able to tell this is quality pot? Meaning, after smoking a bowl will they feel stoned? Or will they feel energetic and creative? Or will they feel both? I just want my friends to like the strain, and I want to make sure the high is what I am expecting



Question 6, Can I expect basically the same yield from these two sativas as I would from the two indicas (Hashberry and Sadhu)? (Expected yield: 7 to 14 grams per plant, dry weight)


Well I can't think of any more questions, and I want to smoke a bowl so im going to post now, thanks for all the help mike!
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:48 AM #2
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Mike,

This is a good example of what I want to do but mine will be soil and much closer together.



Taken from https://www.icmag.com/ic/gallery/show...r=9724&cat=500

He says they are 13" tall when finished, mine will be a little more than that I believe. The strain in that picture is Sadhu, so indica dominant.

Would the sativas basically look the same as an indica? Meaning just a main cola and not really any side branching? Because they really dont have any time to veg


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Edit:

After doing some reading I found that the Kalichakra has quite a bit of stretch but the Satori does not, the Satori is a compact plant with minimal stretch. Stretch means the size it adds on, height, once put into flowering. One person posted on the forum that they had a kalichakra clone that they vegged to 8" and it finished at 36" so that's a lot of stretch and too tall for my grow. But I will be looking into hashberry, sadhu, and satori for sure

Could you verify this all for me mike, thanks ^^

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Old 12-05-2006, 09:55 PM #3
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Question 1, When you say the strain has potential to be medical for anxiety, etc, does that mean it might work for these medical uses or that it definately will?
It means that it has the potential: many people will benefit in the way described but not necessarily everyone. Effect always depends on body chemistry and psychological factors too.

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Question 2, Will Satori and Kalichakra be okay for this grow? I will need them to stay slim and not branch out/bush out much, does this seem practical? The veg time will be no more than 1 week so they shouldn't bush out too much right? I want them to be mainly just a single cola and only a little side branches.
All our strains are suitable for close planting/SOG.

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Question 3, Same question goes for Hashberry and Sadhu, im assuming since they are indica dominant they won't bush out much and will remain a main cola, is this correct?
Yes. Hashberry has a more branchy pheno too, but it's all within limits and does not obstruct SOG style growing. One thing I'd like to mention: the indicas have quite large leaves and they should not be cut. They are important for overall growth and flowering.

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My main concern is the sativas (Satori and Kalichakra) will be too bushy for the small space and create problems for my other plants, like shading light, etc.
If you look at our web site gallery you will notice that both are primarily one-cola plants. Branches that do develop stay close to the stem and don't take up much space. Even with less light reaching through the canopy quality buds develop all along the plant. Main thing is to have a decent light source in the first place, ie. 400-600W HPS.

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Question 4, On your website you say Kalichakra will get you high despite regular use, does this mean smoking it everyday will lower your tolerance or what?
It means even if you are a regular smoker and have a high THC tolerance you are going to get stoned.

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Question 5, The sativa high from these two strains is said to be energetic, and good for creative people like writers - The average smoker just likes to feel the high quickly and heavy, will the average smoker be able to tell this is quality pot? Meaning, after smoking a bowl will they feel stoned? Or will they feel energetic and creative? Or will they feel both? I just want my friends to like the strain, and I want to make sure the high is what I am expecting
Kalichakra is the energetic buzz, Satori more creative. It doesn't matter if you are an average smoker or a connoisseur - this is kick-ass herb! lol
I think there have been quite a few smoke reports to give you an idea. ;-)

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Question 6, Can I expect basically the same yield from these two sativas as I would from the two indicas (Hashberry and Sadhu)? (Expected yield: 7 to 14 grams per plant, dry weight)
I can't predict your yield because I'm not in your shoes and doing the grow. I don't know what soil you are using, which lamps, the level of plant care you are providing...etc. But you should get at least the max. weight mentioned! If not, then something went wrong somewhere along the way. ;-)

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One person posted on the forum that they had a kalichakra clone that they vegged to 8" and it finished at 36" so that's a lot of stretch and too tall for my grow.
Yeah, but wasn't that in hydro? With CO2 supplement?
I don't expect this in soil with 1 week veg.

Hope this helps you out.

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Old 12-05-2006, 10:16 PM #4
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Excellent thanks for answering all my questions Mike!
I still want to go with the four I am just going to do some more research on Kalichakra, I have my heart set on the other 3 though.
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:55 PM #5
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Yeah I decided it would be cool to have 1 indica, 1 indica-sativa, and 1 sativa-indica. So it's Hashberry, Sadhu, and Satori :-)

I think Satori is better for my grow than Kalichakera, you say the high of Satori is creative, and Kalichakera is energetic. Is Satori also an energetic high just also creative?
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:50 AM #6
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I am sure the Satori also gives you energy along with the creativity, can't really be creative without energy lol :-)

I understand the Kalichakra grow was hydro with CO2 but the strain has the characteristic to stretch a bit either way. It probably wouldn't stretch as much, but I am sure it would be taller than the others, and maybe a little harder to manage, reguardless of my medium or whether I supplement CO2.

I am excited to try hashberry sadhu and satori.

I am not sure but I believe I have anxiety, and I have some stress and depression I think... and I usually stay up til 5 am so i'd call that a minor sleep disorder? lol... so im excited to see how the medical effects work on me
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:46 AM #7
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Mike,

Is the Satori seeds on Dr Chronic the new and improved? It doesn't appear to be.

https://www.drchronic.com/products.asp?recnumber=870

They dont have the same description and the flowering time is longer on their website.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:57 AM #8
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lol dude their is an edit button you know? and I didnt know Satori had gotten improved on I thought it was just the White Satan?
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:05 AM #9
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lol oops

um I dont know, on mandalas site it says that its new and improved with shorter flowering time
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:21 AM #10
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lol yeah no biggie dude, hmm your right though it does say new flowering time for it hmm interesting. Im not sure if it was "new" say a few months ago or if it is truely new, because also if you notice on their main page they have their "New" Speed Queen but we all know thats been out for a bit, guess we'll have to wait for Mike to chime in on this one.
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