Hey guys...just wanted to introduce myself and let you know that I am in the middle of a seed test on HTC's Deep Chuck. I have 40 seeds sprouted and ready for bloom and found the info here helpful as I knew little of this strain until getting this breeder pack...

OGbud...strange as it may seem, they came directly from you...if I have this figured out right...vbg...my Houston Five Star partner apparently made some noise around here before leaving. I was hoping to find him here franky but hey, this place is so great I have to stay! We are very different people but still good friends. Perhaps we can PM and discuss this. I understand you may need some of your original stock back...afte your very unfortunate imperial intanglement. I also have some Jamacian Jam I'd like to talk to you about if possible. Also the Nepalese HP and the Paki...and the Skunk (the bone of contention I believe) as I have a beautiful male Skunk and would like to get as much info as possible...if you would be willing to discuss it.

I sure hope so! I havent taken any pics yet as my digital camera had the battery screw up and I am getting it replaced. When I do, I will show a few sample of what's going on...but the pics you have here are pretty representative of what I have...except that most seem to be soil driven and I am 100% hydroponic, from aero- to ebb/drain...I run 8 different bloom units to allow me flexibility...I have a full Mother's Room, and a large Vegging Room, and 4 more 4x4 tables coming soon! My DC starts are huge in that the stems when 6" tall were 1/4" thick!...each branch though short is robust, and at 1 week into bloom, the largest are anything but weak! I run a scrog style and keep plants 24" or less...under these conditions, DC is as robust and strong and any other mostly Indica strain I grow.

I cannot wait to see the final results....though competing with it is a new strain I just started to test at the same time...a (Moroccan Hash Plant x Afghani Hash Plant) x Hawaiian Big Bud that are doing the same thing at the same size but with a competely different structure. Facinating to watch...

Anyway, I will post more on this grow after getting some pics together and organizing my notes and data on this strain. I must admit that at this point, I see little "commercial" value except in breeding. Personal stash is another story, but unless my yields are decent, probably this will be for cross-breeding more than anything. Still, those resin pics you guys have up are awesome...lets see what happens...

Great to meet everyone...in advance...peace...pt

[OG bub]

High!
Welcome, I look foreward to yer participation here on the forums! DC is primarily a headstash plant imo and great for breedwork. Yeild is relatively low but can be dialed in as much as possible. not a 'commercial' yeilding plant by any means tho..
definetly a nice Variety of afghan.

again, I look foreward to yer grow, pics and discussion. thanks for posting, perhaps we PM sometime




Peace, bub.

I really wont be posting a lot as this kinda thing makes me and my better half a little jumpy after my expreince at Advance Forums (a story for another day on pm vbg (very big grin...didnt realize people didnt know that one, which explains alot)). Anyway, the DCs are beautiful, obviously very close to their landrace origins in purity of breeding it seems...of course thats a hard call. The seeds reminded me of the Afghani we used to grow in the late 70' and early 80's when so much of it was around everywhere. Pale, large, robust...classic traits for afghani.

They are SLOW vegging as has been pointed out, but the way I am set up, thats no probblem...I can go around them. Knowing virtually nothing except that they had little stretch, I have staggered the sizes they have gone in, but the first took 7 weeks to get the first ready. Any stretching info would be appreciated...and do they respond to initiating a stretch by raising the lights to just out of optimum for a short time?

Anyway, thank for your response. I look forward to talking with you and learning more about your work...pt

^^^i could agree with all you mention, other then the bud bein average smoke. imo i think the DC smoke is top shelf.

the DC is not a closet growers dream, your top bud dried will be the size of your thumb, the plants take up to much room with the elephant ear fans, takes record settin veg times to achieve a 2 ft plant at finish. much better outdoor plants.

its not a easy grower either, takes some skills to keep all those huge fans green through out. huge pots are the norm, this plant makes more roots and fans then anything else.

Deep Chunk is like any other weed, you will get potent and not so potent plants. if you think because this line is considered IBL, your gonna get a large population of potent plants, your gonna be disappointed.

i wouldnt say the line is a novelty, its a serious old skool afghani, best used in a breedin program, or personal smoke.

TO both you guys, I appreciate your honesty and obvious knowledge. It is a rare treet for me to converse with good growers due to my location and security requirements. I had actually been advised to pull them up and go to the nest in line but my facination with cannabis prevented me from doing so. They are indeed beautiful, very indica plants. The fans leaves are ridiculous...vbg...(very big grin)...and there seems to be a connection between the sex and the length of leaf stems to node. The longer the stel, the more likely a male, but this is only based on a 40 seed sample. I like to do 150 to 200 of anything just to get a real look.

I also know this strain is noted as IBL, and indeed it most likely is, but nature is a crafty old girl and as far as I can tell, there are two distinct phenos withiin this batch. The best one has smaller leaves, particularily with the fan leaves, far more branching on the lower third, and a very nice stretch of about 8" from date of bloom initiation. I have cloned this female and am watching the other fems for what looks good. The smell off rubbing the main stem is wonderful...unique, but its still very early, only week two

The other fems are all shorter, squater, and much larger leaves. Its almost like a crop of lettus!

Jim...a friend grew out Blackwidow for a while and still recommends it. I very much appreciate your recommendations. I am a medical patient...in considerable, constant frigging pain...cannabis works better than the narcotics they put me on...I am incurrable and will live with this as long as I can keep going. Though I personally prefer sativas (the best sativa would make indica smokers quake in their shoes...vbg...they get way to paraniod for a trippy smoke), Indica kills the pain while a sativa can make you wallow in it. Any suggestion for quality smoke above the ocean of mediocre wannabees is deeply apreciated...

For now, being an optimist and a lover of variety, I am still looking forward to the results. A good head stash is some times better to have than a money plant to a guy like me....your grow reports guys were first class...pt

Originally Posted by MrPurple

^^^i could agree with all you mention, other then the bud bein average smoke. imo i think the DC smoke is top shelf.

the DC is not a closet growers dream, your top bud dried will be the size of your thumb, the plants take up to much room with the elephant ear fans, takes record settin veg times to achieve a 2 ft plant at finish. much better outdoor plants.

its not a easy grower either, takes some skills to keep all those huge fans green through out. huge pots are the norm, this plant makes more roots and fans then anything else.

Deep Chunk is like any other weed, you will get potent and not so potent plants. if you think because this line is considered IBL, your gonna get a large population of potent plants, your gonna be disappointed.

i wouldnt say the line is a novelty, its a serious old skool afghani, best used in a breedin program, or personal smoke.

Damn, what bout the Cripple Creek? I just sprouted 3 in the closet. If you are correct, I am a sad panda. Tell me more

Originally Posted by Trigger Hippy

Damn, what bout the Cripple Creek? I just sprouted 3 in the closet. If you are correct, I am a sad panda. Tell me more

the Cripple Crk bro are very nice easy to manage plants. they dont carry the big fans, and yield around 20% more then the DC. used to keep a nice CC cut for a bit. its around the net. i personally prefer the CC over the DC even in its smoke.

a good DC is the cappucino of weed, dark menecin smoke, a real body floater. the Cripple crk is a lighter smoke, still with a nice clean head, just not as heavy. sweeter, piney smoke when run till there done. almost some skunkyness to it as well.

either or are some of the best afghani type smoke ive had. as i said though, you have to find the good ones. and either is well worth a grow at least once, just to check out the smoke

MrP...your smoke details were also very much what I was looking for. Considering I smoke for pleasure and pain, the taste of a smoking experience, a great ambiance of taste and smell, can allieviate my pain and satisfy my senses more than just something to smash me out...which is also very nice...vbg.

So my collection includes cannabis for its potency, and for its other characteristic. I like smoking different things...often. Not too long ago I used to keep 10-15 different strains going at the same time, just to have different things for different moods. Sometimes a great Shanti Shiva is all I want, other times a Haze or Jack Herer, and always when evening comes its ...where is the Indica??? Whose got the bubble????

Anyway, thanks for all the comments. I have a feeling 40 seeds may not be enough of a sampling. RIght now I'm running about 50% male in bloom and that will only leave 20 in a perfect scenario. Less than 50 females is not a scientific sampling size...hell, less than 200 is just a beginning. Of course, IBL is supposed to illeviate that work to a large degree...isnt it?...vbg...T

[The Slickster]

Best to get them from Tom Hill, as I had gotten them from another place a while back, and they were all mostly hermaphroditic because the person who was selling them had selfed the strain and advertised the seeds as "semi-feminized". Go figure, they were semi-herminized. So if that is your situation, none of the below will apply to you. But for straight Tomm Hills' offering of Deep Chunk I can tell you this; The Deep Chunk, Blueberry, Sweet Tooth 3, Shishkaberry, Lifesaver, Bogbubble, for example; high quality strains with specifically enjoyable traits happen to be considered low yielders especially when grown small indoors. Yes, there is much leaf matter, but all the more to make sleepy time hash in the blender by blending dry leaf and gathering the blender sidin's of hash on the wall. The rest could get cooked or re-used as a fertilizer for the next if pest free. They help certain medical conditions the most in a more suitable manner such as for epilepsy, anxiety, anything nerve related, bipolarism, pain and inflammation, and alot of this is attributed to the CBD as well as terpenes, flavonoids, and much much more. Their quality of effects are not really like that of a mostly THC bred for or larger yielder strain. It has its' THC ratios, but also a very wide old school arrangement of cannabinoids that people no longer had had the ability to breed for in today's cannabis at large until now. The market in Amsterdam is flooded with hazes and that "druggy" effect cannabis. Of course, something is better than nothing. But a Deep Chunker came from a time long ago where large outdoor plants could yield a considerable harvest for medicine or just top shelf smoke. Perhaps a couple of pounds or tons if agricultural. It is more quality buzz than potent, but extremely capable of assisting medical users who may not be responding as well to other smokes with THC breeding as the only target. The Deep Chunk buzz is quite pleasant, anxiety free, not depressing for an Afghan, infact somewhat uplifting, and extemely stabilizing in moderation. The taste is wonderful and aside from the aromatherapuetical effects of old school pine bud, it can take you to the next level in a way no bud can. In short Deep Chunk's a lifesaver. It was not bred or focused on yield but quality. It should not be hermaphroditic for best results.

I apreciate all the comments on this DC line. But right now I am so pissed at it I find it hard to be partial.

I dont know what other packs have had in them...but the 40 seeds I received had 40% female, and of the rest, 50% male hermies, and now 20% FEMALE hermie.

Now, I have been growing indoors and out for almost 35 years, and I have three other hash plant lines going at the same time with DC, but this twitching strain beats the bunch. Its inbred to the point of deviant sexual behavior, a problem with IBLs and always has been, and all the pleasant analogies to reduce the effect of ridiculous fan leaf proportions that allow minimal bud grow doesnt excuse it. Even an IBL should be culled for traits.

But Id deal with all that,,,but not with a back-stabbing strain that turns hermie overnight and just pollenated my entire garden. I wont even say how many thousands of dollars are now lost. Its caveate emptor but this is ridiculous.

And for the record, not one other plant in the garden of which the DC's are only a small percentage, have shown any sign of hermaphrodism.

As a precaution, I have pulled the rest. My best keeper was 3.5 ft tall with a cola 2" thick, better than any pic I have seen here. The smell was just leaving the cabbage stage and has a nice piney background smell...a real keeper. Except that it, and three more females are all hermie and have done enough damage now that I will never try them again.

I am sorry for this negative post...I had such nice hope for this strain. But I must say with all sincerity, if DC is anyones best smoke, I suggest you widen your horizons! Its nice but no way a top strain...imo.

Well, its off to see what I can do to minimize the damage but it looks bad. Again, not one other strain followed suit...no problems occured...a typical normal grow...I might have caught it earlier except for the Holidays. I just didnt spend much time with them the last week. And now its too late. Worst of all, all the seed produced, the F1 and all the great hybrids I made in controlled fashion are now all contaminated with hermi seed...a total loss.

To say the least, whether it was just a quirk and a bad pack, something atypical, it changes nothing for me. There are now a stack of beautiful budded plants piled in a heap waiting for bubbling... nothing salvagable, and a room full of once fine buds now covered with mini-seeds of worthless stock.

Take it for what its worth I guess...peace..pt