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SonOfSally · 11-27-2006, 10:30 PM

Wuz up wuz up wuz up???

I have not grown in a while and am about to start back up again. Sadly I no longer have my squirell cage fan, 400w hps, or expensive c-22 (I think) cab that I used last time. This time I am gonna go smaller. I need to grow enough weed for my wife and I with the occasional friend and last between harvests. Best way to do this is keep a mother and clone chamber so I can harvest every two months. Here are my measurements.

21 3/4" Wide
up to 32" Deep
up to 62" High

This cab/box will be going into our walk in closet. We were thinking about putting it in the guest room closet, but since we actually want to use it as a guest room from time to time, keeping it in ours gives us more control over it.

Another sad thing is I have lost my personal seed bank. I LOVED Bog. His sourbubble bx1 was very good to me, as was his sons, i think, grape punch. Had some LSD I never got around to growing. Right now, for budget reasons, I am looking at getting a selection on nirvana seeds. I can pick 4 packs for 50 bucks in seedbay and get whatever the freebie happens to be. With 4 strains, 10 seeds each, I should be able to get some good mom's from the F-2 seeds I believe nirvana uses.

The goal would be to grow 2-4 (i am thinking 3) plants in that space. I want to go soil because I have been VERY successful with fox fram soil and nutes (not that it is hard with the good stuff) and only moderatly successful with hydro. SWC might be worth trying though if it gets one more plant in there or just a little more room for the ladies to stretch out.

I have considered using flourescents. Always have some people saying "yes, it does work" others yelling "no, it doesn't" and still others saying fluoro's work, just use t-8's or t-5's and not cfls's....sooooooo might either get 2 or 3 of the 64 (I believe Lights of America makes one) watter security lights with side lighting from other CFL's, or say screw it and get a 75-150 w hps security light. The last blower I used for circulation was fairly loud and I was concerned about this, which would be the main reason for going with fluoro's rather than the HID's.

Let me know what ya'll think, still working on seed selectin and final cab design...

-SoS

pothead82 · 11-27-2006, 11:23 PM

Way to go man, I wan tot do the same thing, just enough for me and my wife and some friends. I think you should take a look at mr_micro gorw. Although he uses hps, he has such a small space and still gets a nice yield. I my opinion if you are going to go fluors, try those envirolites, 2--w cfl for 60-70 dollars on ebay. But as you said, opinios vary a lot in here...
keep us updated and good luck!

SonOfSally · 11-28-2006, 05:35 PM

Here are some pics from my c22 cab grow. had a 400w HPS. And a shot of some LST. I havn't been real active on the boards since i stopped growing, and then OG went down...so sad...good thing I already had an account here!!!! Love you guys.

And a shot of some of my favorite pieces...

Cheers

-SoS

MissingAlaska · 11-28-2006, 06:24 PM

I'd personally use a 250watt HPS if I could. The light output from the sides of the bulb could cover the depth of the cab. You'd fall right in the 50w per sq. foot zone! With 62" of vertical space you could section off the bottom for a mommy/veg room. and rotate vegged plants in to harvest a bit more often.

pieceofmyheart · 11-28-2006, 06:46 PM

Welcome to IC and Micro Grows, glad to have you. I believe most of us who do the micro grows do it like you, personal stash and to smoke out a friend here and there.

Good Luck with your new start and I like your selection of pieces.

SonOfSally · 11-28-2006, 10:49 PM

Heart: Thanks for stopping by, hopefully I will make ya'll proud.

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product.php?product=9183

This CFL looks good for the veg cab if nothing else. The 105 watters don't have one available in 6500 kelvins. The 150's and the 200 are both like $80 bucks while the 85 is 20. Can get 170 watts for $40.

There is also a 3000 Kelvin 85 watter as well. Maybe an interesting way to flower. With the multiple CFL's to flower I would place some on the sides of the plants as well since the low canopy penetration is one of the biggest cfl drawbacks.

MA: Thanks for the suggestion on the 250 watter

250w HPS/MH ballast system at mdhyrdo. Or get a 60-90 security HPS and remote ballast it.

https://californiahydro.stores.yahoo.net/noname.html

The biggest thing I am concerned about with a 250 in there is the heat. The cabinet doesn't need to be as deep as it can be if it means using maybe a 150w instead. Although I know the ballasts from the cfls will give out a fair amount of heat as well. If I seperate the ballasts from the bulbs would be very low heat.

I am going to get some pictures today of the space I am going to build the cabinet in.

SonOfSally · 11-29-2006, 12:18 AM

Just orderd a 4 pack deal from Seedbay for 50 bucks (+5 for shipping).

Getting 4 Nirvana packs.
Papaya
NL x Big Bud
White Rhino
AK 48

Heard good things about K2 and white widow, but I think those selections will give me a few good moms, plus i get a freebie to look forward to as well.

SonOfSally · 11-29-2006, 04:59 AM

Right now I am starting some bag seeds for 2 reasons.

(1) To practice topping plants early with these suckas ala GMT as shown in one of his excellent threads here.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.p...highlight=lazy

and (2) who the hell knows when I will finally get my seeds, get the grow box together, and have it going perfect. I don't wanna start the nirvana seeds until I got all the kinks out and the bag seeds are good guinea pigs. and I might even get some weed off em, who knows.

And just for fun, here is a pic of a tri-stemed (whorled phyllotaxy) baby I had. It was BOG's Grape Punch.

-SoS

SonOfSally · 11-29-2006, 10:32 PM

Here are some pictures of the space the cab will be built it in. Got some days off coming up, so the cab will be built hopefully by sunday.

Here is a tall shot of the space.

And a shot at the footprint

I have a space exactly the same on the other side of the closet, so will probably make a little box for veg and mother over there instead of doing them both in the same box. Let me know what you think.

Here are a couple o shots of me trying to germinate some bag seed.

-SoS

SonOfSally · 12-17-2006, 09:08 PM

Here is a shot of one of my lamps that I will be using.

It's an 85 watt 6500 k CFL

I will be using 2 of those for the veg and 3 3000k ones for the flower with supplemental lighting from a 65 watt blue cfl I got from home depot.

11-27-2006, 10:30 PM	#1
SonOfSally Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 25	Closet grow Wuz up wuz up wuz up??? I have not grown in a while and am about to start back up again. Sadly I no longer have my squirell cage fan, 400w hps, or expensive c-22 (I think) cab that I used last time. This time I am gonna go smaller. I need to grow enough weed for my wife and I with the occasional friend and last between harvests. Best way to do this is keep a mother and clone chamber so I can harvest every two months. Here are my measurements. 21 3/4" Wide up to 32" Deep up to 62" High This cab/box will be going into our walk in closet. We were thinking about putting it in the guest room closet, but since we actually want to use it as a guest room from time to time, keeping it in ours gives us more control over it. Another sad thing is I have lost my personal seed bank. I LOVED Bog. His sourbubble bx1 was very good to me, as was his sons, i think, grape punch. Had some LSD I never got around to growing. Right now, for budget reasons, I am looking at getting a selection on nirvana seeds. I can pick 4 packs for 50 bucks in seedbay and get whatever the freebie happens to be. With 4 strains, 10 seeds each, I should be able to get some good mom's from the F-2 seeds I believe nirvana uses. The goal would be to grow 2-4 (i am thinking 3) plants in that space. I want to go soil because I have been VERY successful with fox fram soil and nutes (not that it is hard with the good stuff) and only moderatly successful with hydro. SWC might be worth trying though if it gets one more plant in there or just a little more room for the ladies to stretch out. I have considered using flourescents. Always have some people saying "yes, it does work" others yelling "no, it doesn't" and still others saying fluoro's work, just use t-8's or t-5's and not cfls's....sooooooo might either get 2 or 3 of the 64 (I believe Lights of America makes one) watter security lights with side lighting from other CFL's, or say screw it and get a 75-150 w hps security light. The last blower I used for circulation was fairly loud and I was concerned about this, which would be the main reason for going with fluoro's rather than the HID's. Let me know what ya'll think, still working on seed selectin and final cab design... -SoS
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11-27-2006, 11:23 PM	#2
pothead82 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Middle of Nowhere Posts: 42	Way to go man, I wan tot do the same thing, just enough for me and my wife and some friends. I think you should take a look at mr_micro gorw. Although he uses hps, he has such a small space and still gets a nice yield. I my opinion if you are going to go fluors, try those envirolites, 2--w cfl for 60-70 dollars on ebay. But as you said, opinios vary a lot in here... keep us updated and good luck!
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11-28-2006, 05:35 PM	#3
SonOfSally Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 25	Here are some pics from my c22 cab grow. had a 400w HPS. And a shot of some LST. I havn't been real active on the boards since i stopped growing, and then OG went down...so sad...good thing I already had an account here!!!! Love you guys. And a shot of some of my favorite pieces... Cheers -SoS
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11-28-2006, 06:24 PM	#4
MissingAlaska Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 33	I'd personally use a 250watt HPS if I could. The light output from the sides of the bulb could cover the depth of the cab. You'd fall right in the 50w per sq. foot zone! With 62" of vertical space you could section off the bottom for a mommy/veg room. and rotate vegged plants in to harvest a bit more often. __________________ Grow Grow Grow your own. Flush it nice and clean. Merrily Merrily Merrily Merrily Grow your dope unseen. My Grow https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42483
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11-28-2006, 06:46 PM	#5
pieceofmyheart Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: my secret garden Posts: 1,854	Welcome to IC and Micro Grows, glad to have you. I believe most of us who do the micro grows do it like you, personal stash and to smoke out a friend here and there. Good Luck with your new start and I like your selection of pieces.
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11-28-2006, 10:49 PM	#6
SonOfSally Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 25	Heart: Thanks for stopping by, hopefully I will make ya'll proud. https://www.1000bulbs.com/product.php?product=9183 This CFL looks good for the veg cab if nothing else. The 105 watters don't have one available in 6500 kelvins. The 150's and the 200 are both like $80 bucks while the 85 is 20. Can get 170 watts for $40. There is also a 3000 Kelvin 85 watter as well. Maybe an interesting way to flower. With the multiple CFL's to flower I would place some on the sides of the plants as well since the low canopy penetration is one of the biggest cfl drawbacks. MA: Thanks for the suggestion on the 250 watter 250w HPS/MH ballast system at mdhyrdo. Or get a 60-90 security HPS and remote ballast it. https://californiahydro.stores.yahoo.net/noname.html The biggest thing I am concerned about with a 250 in there is the heat. The cabinet doesn't need to be as deep as it can be if it means using maybe a 150w instead. Although I know the ballasts from the cfls will give out a fair amount of heat as well. If I seperate the ballasts from the bulbs would be very low heat. I am going to get some pictures today of the space I am going to build the cabinet in.
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11-29-2006, 12:18 AM	#7
SonOfSally Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 25	Just orderd a 4 pack deal from Seedbay for 50 bucks (+5 for shipping). Getting 4 Nirvana packs. Papaya NL x Big Bud White Rhino AK 48 Heard good things about K2 and white widow, but I think those selections will give me a few good moms, plus i get a freebie to look forward to as well.
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11-29-2006, 04:59 AM	#8
SonOfSally Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 25	Right now I am starting some bag seeds for 2 reasons. (1) To practice topping plants early with these suckas ala GMT as shown in one of his excellent threads here. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.p...highlight=lazy and (2) who the hell knows when I will finally get my seeds, get the grow box together, and have it going perfect. I don't wanna start the nirvana seeds until I got all the kinks out and the bag seeds are good guinea pigs. and I might even get some weed off em, who knows. And just for fun, here is a pic of a tri-stemed (whorled phyllotaxy) baby I had. It was BOG's Grape Punch. -SoS
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11-29-2006, 10:32 PM	#9
SonOfSally Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 25	Here are some pictures of the space the cab will be built it in. Got some days off coming up, so the cab will be built hopefully by sunday. Here is a tall shot of the space. And a shot at the footprint I have a space exactly the same on the other side of the closet, so will probably make a little box for veg and mother over there instead of doing them both in the same box. Let me know what you think. Here are a couple o shots of me trying to germinate some bag seed. -SoS
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12-17-2006, 09:08 PM	#10
SonOfSally Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 25	Here is a shot of one of my lamps that I will be using. It's an 85 watt 6500 k CFL I will be using 2 of those for the veg and 3 3000k ones for the flower with supplemental lighting from a 65 watt blue cfl I got from home depot.
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