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ezbake · 11-16-2006, 03:38 AM

Looking to grow the Hashberry and Speed Queen, got some questions.

They are advertised to work well with the Sea of Green (SOG) growing method, this is what I am looking for.

My plan is to veg some clones for awhile until they are 6-8" tall and then put them into flowering.
Question 1: How much will the plants stretch once put into flowering at 6-8" tall?

My goal is to have them finish at 1.5-2 ft tall maximum and yield 1/2 oz atleast.

Question 2: Will I get 1.5 foot plants if I veg a clone until it is 6-8" tall?

Question 3: Will I get atleast 1/2 oz per 1.5 foot plant from these two strains?

Question 4: What is the high like from these two strains? I heard Hashberry is that hashy high, very couchlock. And I heard Speed Queen is more of an energetic high not as couchlock. Is this true?

Question 5: Is the smell and taste as good as everyone says? Hashberry is supposed to be hashy and berry smelling/tasting. Speed Queen is supposed to be orange/citrus smelling/tasting. Is this true?

Thanks!

11-16-2006, 04:19 AM

a half ounce from a plant that size is easy to do without trying

ezbake · 11-16-2006, 05:16 AM

Thats what I thought but how big do they need to be when I put them into 12/12? Do they double in height? triple? Or is there minimal stretch?

MandalaMike · 11-16-2006, 12:03 PM

Ezbake, I've answered your PM before I saw the thread. ;-)

Cheers,
Mike

ezbake · 11-16-2006, 12:44 PM

Mike,

Thank you for the quick replys, very helpful.

You said I may want to squeeze some more lumens in but the only thing is I can't.
I don't want to use HID lighting because of the heat factor. And the T5 flouro 4 foot light is completely flat so it will cover the entire canopy. So I can't really fit another one in there.

The plants will be small, no more than 2 feet. It's 30,000 lumens being put out, over a 4x2 area and i'll stretch that to a little more (edges not completely covered). The plants would always be 3-6" from the lights. Do you think it would still be a good potency and yield?

And I am doing organic soil :-)
Fox Farm Ocean Forest
Earth Juice - Full line of organic nutes

Also, I am having trouble viewing some pics in Sadhu's gallery. She looks lovely by the way. Some pictures are all blurry when I click on them to view the full size.

ezbake · 11-16-2006, 12:49 PM

By the way, Speed Queen reminds me of the kind of chronic I pick up to smoke. It might just look the same as a lot of strains but it's pretty similar if ya ask me... except mine is packaged and not fresh so it doesn't look nearly as beautiful.

So does Hashberry but I am sure i'd know if i was smoking that.

TORC · 11-16-2006, 05:47 PM

EZ, the best way to achieve yield when working with fluoro's and limited space is to top and train. It is very simple and you will double your yield. The main problem with growing with fluoros is light penetration. To get around this, you will need to have multi-cola plants. It's very simple: when the plants start to get heavily leaved and have at least 3-4 nodes, top it. This will cause the lower shoots to grow up. Give her a couple weeks of veg after this. You will then have 4-6 tops coming up. Once in flowering it may be necessary to train them a little. You can do this in many ways, my favorite being to tie the branches down to the side of the pots. I use bulldog clips on the side of the pot and pull the top down and tie with cloth line or twist tie. One last thing. Make sure you keep the plants as close to the light as you can. It works great and your yield will put a smile on your face. (I used to grow this way) peace

11-16-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MandalaMike

Ezbake, I've answered your PM before I saw the thread. ;-)

Cheers,
Mike

i am a little curious about 1 of his questions as it will be helpful to me as well

stretch on the hashberry?

ezbake · 11-16-2006, 10:33 PM

He said that if i flower them when 8" they will finish under 2 feet, so the stretch will probably double that means. I just wanted to make sure it wasnt another sensi star that doesnt stretch at all when put to 12/12

spectrum · 11-17-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ezbake

He said that if i flower them when 8" they will finish under 2 feet, so the stretch will probably double that means. I just wanted to make sure it wasnt another sensi star that doesnt stretch at all when put to 12/12

thats weird - i thought HB had barely any stretch at all .... come to find out it has 3x stretch!

good to know since Hashberry is the next strain im growing. :p

11-16-2006, 03:38 AM	#1
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	Hashberry & Speed Queen Question Looking to grow the Hashberry and Speed Queen, got some questions. They are advertised to work well with the Sea of Green (SOG) growing method, this is what I am looking for. My plan is to veg some clones for awhile until they are 6-8" tall and then put them into flowering. Question 1: How much will the plants stretch once put into flowering at 6-8" tall? My goal is to have them finish at 1.5-2 ft tall maximum and yield 1/2 oz atleast. Question 2: Will I get 1.5 foot plants if I veg a clone until it is 6-8" tall? Question 3: Will I get atleast 1/2 oz per 1.5 foot plant from these two strains? Question 4: What is the high like from these two strains? I heard Hashberry is that hashy high, very couchlock. And I heard Speed Queen is more of an energetic high not as couchlock. Is this true? Question 5: Is the smell and taste as good as everyone says? Hashberry is supposed to be hashy and berry smelling/tasting. Speed Queen is supposed to be orange/citrus smelling/tasting. Is this true? Thanks!
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11-16-2006, 12:03 PM	#4
MandalaMike Mike Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 736	Ezbake, I've answered your PM before I saw the thread. ;-) Cheers, Mike __________________ www.mandalaseeds.com
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11-16-2006, 12:44 PM	#5
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	Mike, Thank you for the quick replys, very helpful. You said I may want to squeeze some more lumens in but the only thing is I can't. I don't want to use HID lighting because of the heat factor. And the T5 flouro 4 foot light is completely flat so it will cover the entire canopy. So I can't really fit another one in there. The plants will be small, no more than 2 feet. It's 30,000 lumens being put out, over a 4x2 area and i'll stretch that to a little more (edges not completely covered). The plants would always be 3-6" from the lights. Do you think it would still be a good potency and yield? And I am doing organic soil :-) Fox Farm Ocean Forest Earth Juice - Full line of organic nutes Also, I am having trouble viewing some pics in Sadhu's gallery. She looks lovely by the way. Some pictures are all blurry when I click on them to view the full size. Last edited by ezbake; 11-16-2006 at 12:46 PM..
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11-16-2006, 05:47 PM	#7
TORC Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: A Passage to Bangkok Posts: 839	EZ, the best way to achieve yield when working with fluoro's and limited space is to top and train. It is very simple and you will double your yield. The main problem with growing with fluoros is light penetration. To get around this, you will need to have multi-cola plants. It's very simple: when the plants start to get heavily leaved and have at least 3-4 nodes, top it. This will cause the lower shoots to grow up. Give her a couple weeks of veg after this. You will then have 4-6 tops coming up. Once in flowering it may be necessary to train them a little. You can do this in many ways, my favorite being to tie the branches down to the side of the pots. I use bulldog clips on the side of the pot and pull the top down and tie with cloth line or twist tie. One last thing. Make sure you keep the plants as close to the light as you can. It works great and your yield will put a smile on your face. (I used to grow this way) peace __________________ "Soapbox house of cards and glass, so don't go tossing your stones around"MJK My body, my disease, my choice! For upcoming events, check your local listings I will never go down without a fight Last edited by TORC; 11-16-2006 at 05:48 PM..
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11-16-2006, 04:19 AM	#2
zoolander Guest Posts: n/a	a half ounce from a plant that size is easy to do without trying
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11-16-2006, 05:16 AM	#3
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	Thats what I thought but how big do they need to be when I put them into 12/12? Do they double in height? triple? Or is there minimal stretch?
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11-16-2006, 12:49 PM	#6
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	By the way, Speed Queen reminds me of the kind of chronic I pick up to smoke. It might just look the same as a lot of strains but it's pretty similar if ya ask me... except mine is packaged and not fresh so it doesn't look nearly as beautiful. So does Hashberry but I am sure i'd know if i was smoking that.
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11-16-2006, 10:33 PM	#9
ezbake Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353	He said that if i flower them when 8" they will finish under 2 feet, so the stretch will probably double that means. I just wanted to make sure it wasnt another sensi star that doesnt stretch at all when put to 12/12
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