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bounty29 · 10-27-2006, 11:29 PM

Alright, so I'm in my 6th day of 12/12 on my first grow, and I've decided I want to build another cab. I might do another grow or two in the one I have now, but I'd definitely like to upgrade.

Veg: 24"h*14.5"w*14.5"d = 1.46 sq ft
Flower: 34"h*14.5"w*14.5"d = 1.46 sq ft

Veg: 4*20w 6500k CFL = ~55wpsf
Flower: 150w HPS = ~100wpsf

Veg: One Mother + Three Clones (1-15 days old)/One vegging plant (Best of three cuts)(15-30 days old)
Flower: Two plants, each 30 days apart. When one is harvested, one gets brought in from veg, and three new cuts are taken.

There will be two 4" circular darkroom vents about 6" from the bottom, on the side of the veg chamber. From the top of the veg chamber to the bottom of the flower chamber there will be two 4" PVC light trap passive vents. The HPS will be in a cooltube, connected directly to the electrical chamber. In the electrical chamber will be a power strip to plug everything into, and a DIY CAN-style carbon scrubber, probably about 6" long. Between this and the outside wall of the electrical chamber will be a 4" vortex inline fan.

The reason I split the cab right down the middle is so that I can go into the veg chamber while the flowering chamber is dark. I plan on having like a half inch board screwed all along the border of the cab, to help ensure there are no light leaks. I plan on stapling black felt cloth along the sides of the doors, over the hinges.

What's everyone think? I know the 150w HPS is a bit much, and it may be too much, but it's what I have right now. What would be better suited for this setup? Could I yield an oz per month with a 70w HPS? If at all possible I'd like to use a 150w, but if it's out of the question I'll look into other options.

Edit: If necessary, I could upgrade to a 6" Vortex type fan (is there a better or quieter brand than vortex, but same design?) and instead of two 4" circular dark room vents, just use one 8"x8" square darkroom vent, and upgrade the PVC to 6", along with the cooltube/ducting.

Edit 2: After looking around, I can get a 100w HPS Bulb + Ballast for like $50, and I think that would make the temps a lot easier to deal with. Might end up doing that...

BRNEYDBVR · 10-27-2006, 11:58 PM

Bounty29-

I'm about 3 days behind you on my first grow.....so I can't offer you much...

But...since you already have the 150w......

Maybe this could give you some ideas...?

My U1/U2 combo cab:

150w hps, cool tube, Dayton 134cfm, couple cfl's in the U1. (4) 8x8 louvers.

Under construction pics:

The drawer is Faked out. This allows for more head room. This is looking up in the U1. (Where the drawer used to be)

And the bottom of the U1, but you get the idea.......Again, these pics are from construction...... the cfl's and electrical box will be moved to a different spot in the U1.

Oh yeah.... I have (3) 4" fans to keep the air moving even more.

Good Luck with your grow.....

I'll be watchin'.

Couple more:

hybridtek · 10-29-2006, 09:20 PM

nice U2 cab, cant wait to build one. U2 usually sucks but as a cabinet they rule

BRNEYDBVR · 10-30-2006, 07:02 AM

Hey Bounty

I had no intention of jacking your thread...... just thought it might help you to make a decision.

With a cab this size... a 6" vortex is overkill, actually a 4" vortex is a lil big. (These fans are 8.5"x9.5"x4") There is not alot of space in these cabs.

Ventilation is KEY......These little cabs get hot.

I would go with the 100w and the 4" vortex. If you can make it fit correctly.

Another idea for your ventilation is a "mini lasko blower". They can be had at Wal-mart...etc. With a little mod, I'm sure it would work very well. Plus they run about $12 to $15.
It would be a lot cheaper than the vortex.....just an idea.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Be lucky and be safe.

BRNEYDBVR

bongasaurus · 10-30-2006, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BRNEYDBVR

Another idea for your ventilation is a "mini lasko blower". They can be had at Wal-mart...etc. With a little mod, I'm sure it would work very well. Plus they run about $12 to $15.
It would be a lot cheaper than the vortex.....just an idea.

how loud are these things. ive got a lil cab with a comp fan for exhaust and it just doesnt cut it. but like you said, i cant dish out too much for a fan...

hybridtek · 10-30-2006, 09:26 AM

anybody try that industrial hardware supplier that gives you factory prices? I forget the name offhand, I know you can call them and they'll find a vortex at your local electrical supply place and it saves you $40-50

hybridtek · 10-30-2006, 09:28 AM

ah - Grainger's

BRNEYDBVR · 10-31-2006, 06:19 AM

Hey everyone!

Bongasaurus - These mini lasko blowers are very quiet.......silent when compared to my dayton 134cfm...LOL. They will produce a very small amount of "air movement" noise..... They are definately a good alternative source for ventilation in the micro grows. Two speeds and they will adjust forward or backward, which equates into more ways to mount them. They simply pull air in on both sides (you can see the holes on the side of the blower in the pic) I scored this one for $8. The small fans that I have in my cab were only $2, but they rang up for $1!! If you catch the sales at the beginning of Sept. (depending where you live) All the fans and assorted "summer stuff" goes on sale. Sorry for the out of focus pics........

Oh yeah.....I love that custom stanley reflector you have..... and the woodgrain floor goes so well with the duct tape and plastic!!

I'm just messin' with you.....bro.

Hope this helps.

Be lucky and be safe.

BRNEYDBVR

mushupork5 · 10-31-2006, 07:20 AM

i think you should give your flowering some more space on the horizontal. 14.5" is PLENTY of space for a mom and 3 clones, shit i'm using about 10.25. use that extra space for some extra buds

bounty29 · 10-31-2006, 04:57 PM

Sorry I kinda abandoned this thread, I've had a lot going on in the past few days.

Hmm... I like how the U1/U2 combo looks, I might have to rethink some things.

Edit: What did the U1 and U2 cost, and did you get the U7 countertop thing? Is that what you've got on top there? I think that combo would be perfect for the 32" TV I'll be getting soon...

How did you fake the drawer? I'd definitely like to do that as well if I were to get this. And one more question... How tall is the little bottom foot thing?

10-27-2006, 11:29 PM	#1
bounty29 Custom User Title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,252	My U2 Cabinet Design Alright, so I'm in my 6th day of 12/12 on my first grow, and I've decided I want to build another cab. I might do another grow or two in the one I have now, but I'd definitely like to upgrade. Veg: 24"h14.5"w14.5"d = 1.46 sq ft Flower: 34"h14.5"w14.5"d = 1.46 sq ft Veg: 420w 6500k CFL = ~55wpsf Flower: 150w HPS = ~100wpsf Veg: One Mother + Three Clones (1-15 days old)/One vegging plant (Best of three cuts)(15-30 days old) Flower: Two plants, each 30 days apart. When one is harvested, one gets brought in from veg, and three new cuts are taken. There will be two 4" circular darkroom vents about 6" from the bottom, on the side of the veg chamber. From the top of the veg chamber to the bottom of the flower chamber there will be two 4" PVC light trap passive vents. The HPS will be in a cooltube, connected directly to the electrical chamber. In the electrical chamber will be a power strip to plug everything into, and a DIY CAN-style carbon scrubber, probably about 6" long. Between this and the outside wall of the electrical chamber will be a 4" vortex inline fan. The reason I split the cab right down the middle is so that I can go into the veg chamber while the flowering chamber is dark. I plan on having like a half inch board screwed all along the border of the cab, to help ensure there are no light leaks. I plan on stapling black felt cloth along the sides of the doors, over the hinges. What's everyone think? I know the 150w HPS is a bit much, and it may be too much, but it's what I have right now. What would be better suited for this setup? Could I yield an oz per month with a 70w HPS? If at all possible I'd like to use a 150w, but if it's out of the question I'll look into other options. Edit: If necessary, I could upgrade to a 6" Vortex type fan (is there a better or quieter brand than vortex, but same design?) and instead of two 4" circular dark room vents, just use one 8"x8" square darkroom vent, and upgrade the PVC to 6", along with the cooltube/ducting. Edit 2: After looking around, I can get a 100w HPS Bulb + Ballast for like $50, and I think that would make the temps a lot easier to deal with. Might end up doing that... Last edited by bounty29; 10-27-2006 at 11:35 PM..*
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10-29-2006, 09:20 PM	#3
hybridtek Lamb's Breadmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 430	nice U2 cab, cant wait to build one. U2 usually sucks but as a cabinet they rule __________________ 175w IKEA LED stealth cab - RDWC Scrog (Staggered Harvest 8.8oz 1.4gpw) *FINISHED*
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10-30-2006, 09:26 AM	#6
hybridtek Lamb's Breadmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 430	anybody try that industrial hardware supplier that gives you factory prices? I forget the name offhand, I know you can call them and they'll find a vortex at your local electrical supply place and it saves you $40-50 __________________ 175w IKEA LED stealth cab - RDWC Scrog (Staggered Harvest 8.8oz 1.4gpw) *FINISHED*
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10-30-2006, 09:28 AM	#7
hybridtek Lamb's Breadmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 430	ah - Grainger's __________________ 175w IKEA LED stealth cab - RDWC Scrog (Staggered Harvest 8.8oz 1.4gpw) *FINISHED*
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10-31-2006, 06:19 AM	#8
BRNEYDBVR Brown Eyed Beaver Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Caminada Pass Posts: 893	Hey everyone! Bongasaurus - These mini lasko blowers are very quiet.......silent when compared to my dayton 134cfm...LOL. They will produce a very small amount of "air movement" noise..... They are definately a good alternative source for ventilation in the micro grows. Two speeds and they will adjust forward or backward, which equates into more ways to mount them. They simply pull air in on both sides (you can see the holes on the side of the blower in the pic) I scored this one for $8. The small fans that I have in my cab were only $2, but they rang up for $1!! If you catch the sales at the beginning of Sept. (depending where you live) All the fans and assorted "summer stuff" goes on sale. Sorry for the out of focus pics........ Oh yeah.....I love that custom stanley reflector you have..... and the woodgrain floor goes so well with the duct tape and plastic!! I'm just messin' with you.....bro. Hope this helps. Be lucky and be safe. BRNEYDBVR __________________ Redneck Hooligan "Don't regret the rules I broke...when I die, bury me in smoke." - Down "When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson "Like most of the others, I was a seeker, a mover, a malcontent and at times a stupid hell-raiser. I was never idle long enough to do much thinking, but I felt somehow that my instincts were right. I shared a vagrant optimism that some of us were making real progress, that we had taken an honest road, and that the best of us would inevitably make it over the top. At the same time, I shared a dark suspicion that the life we were leading was a lost cause, that we were all actors, kidding ourselves along on a senseless odyssey. It was the tension between these two poles- a restless idealism on one hand and a sense of impending doom on the other- that kept me going" - Hunter S. Thompson, The Rum Diary
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10-27-2006, 11:58 PM	#2
BRNEYDBVR Brown Eyed Beaver Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Caminada Pass Posts: 893	Bounty29- I'm about 3 days behind you on my first grow.....so I can't offer you much... But...since you already have the 150w...... Maybe this could give you some ideas...? My U1/U2 combo cab: 150w hps, cool tube, Dayton 134cfm, couple cfl's in the U1. (4) 8x8 louvers. Under construction pics: The drawer is Faked out. This allows for more head room. This is looking up in the U1. (Where the drawer used to be) And the bottom of the U1, but you get the idea.......Again, these pics are from construction...... the cfl's and electrical box will be moved to a different spot in the U1. Oh yeah.... I have (3) 4" fans to keep the air moving even more. Good Luck with your grow..... I'll be watchin'. Couple more:
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10-30-2006, 07:02 AM	#4
BRNEYDBVR Brown Eyed Beaver Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Caminada Pass Posts: 893	Hey Bounty I had no intention of jacking your thread...... just thought it might help you to make a decision. With a cab this size... a 6" vortex is overkill, actually a 4" vortex is a lil big. (These fans are 8.5"x9.5"x4") There is not alot of space in these cabs. Ventilation is KEY......These little cabs get hot. I would go with the 100w and the 4" vortex. If you can make it fit correctly. Another idea for your ventilation is a "mini lasko blower". They can be had at Wal-mart...etc. With a little mod, I'm sure it would work very well. Plus they run about $12 to $15. It would be a lot cheaper than the vortex.....just an idea. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. Be lucky and be safe. BRNEYDBVR
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10-31-2006, 07:20 AM	#9
mushupork5 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 281	i think you should give your flowering some more space on the horizontal. 14.5" is PLENTY of space for a mom and 3 clones, shit i'm using about 10.25. use that extra space for some extra buds
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10-31-2006, 04:57 PM	#10
bounty29 Custom User Title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,252	Sorry I kinda abandoned this thread, I've had a lot going on in the past few days. Hmm... I like how the U1/U2 combo looks, I might have to rethink some things. Edit: What did the U1 and U2 cost, and did you get the U7 countertop thing? Is that what you've got on top there? I think that combo would be perfect for the 32" TV I'll be getting soon... How did you fake the drawer? I'd definitely like to do that as well if I were to get this. And one more question... How tall is the little bottom foot thing? Last edited by bounty29; 10-31-2006 at 09:32 PM..
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