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JLP · 07-20-2004, 06:17 PM

*****THESE SEEDS ARE ALL GONE******

Hey everybody,
Here's someting I've been working on for a few months now.
As some of you may know,our beloved Dutchgrown was raided last year and had her entire grow destroyed by the Dutch police.
Most of the confiscated plants were seeded.In particular,she had some Neville's Haze that was pollenated by a NH male and some SSH that was pollenated by the same NH male.After the bust she was able to find some seeds on the floor where the plants had been.DG was gracious enough to send me some of those seeds.The seeds are mixed so there is not much of a way to tell which is NHxNH and which is NHxSSH.

For the first batch of seeds I selected my 2 best plants(1 fem 1 male) from the first 6 seeds I germed.Both the female and male showed sex at around 30 days.Both were extremely branchy and stretchy.The fem stopped stretching at about 60 days.
The fem took 16 weeks to flower and finished about 5 feet tall.
The long flower time is somewhat off set by the fact that I put them into flower right after they germed.I grew theses under a 12/12 light cycle.You might be able to reduce flowering by scaling back to a 10/14 light cycle.These are not easy to manage indoors but nothing is impossible if you flower early enough and top them very well.These will probably require some mid-flower pruning or bending for indoor growers.The buds are somewhat airy,not the greatest bag appeal,but the seem to roll and smoke just fine.

They produce little smell in the grow.The flavor is kind of spicy/peppery,understated.This is probably the most Sativa plant I've grown.Until recently I didn't have the vertical room to grow them,but I always wanted to.
The high is extremely clear,especially in comparision to Indicas and Hybrids.It's like getting drunk without your tounge getting thick.It takes a little getting used to.At first you kind of underestimate how high you are,until you try to do something.
I didn't notice any paranoia or intense speediness.Overall I found it to be a very pleasant change of pace.

Anyway,if you like some free seeds just PM me with a safe addy.EDIT****THESE SEEDS ARE ALL GONE.******

Phoenix 1 will be the first in a series of seeds from these genetics,hopefully.

Here's some pics of the seedmother and father.

JLP

******THESE SEEDS ARE ALL GONE*******

friendlyfriend · 07-20-2004, 06:36 PM

holy mackerel! line me up for some of those ! and let the good times roll

homegrownsweets · 07-20-2004, 07:04 PM

once again JLP another nice cross. you seem to amaze us with your quality genetics. Peace

KRS Juan · 07-20-2004, 07:09 PM

Just call me Macgyver! Oh wait that was the Phoenix Foundation. Sativa's for all! JLP owns.

-KRS Juan-

TheIO · 07-20-2004, 07:12 PM

The discription of the high sounds SUPER!!! I would love to try some of that!

Theio

Joemutt1978 · 07-20-2004, 08:35 PM

Have you got a name picked out yet? Thats my favorite part of making seeds, naming the cross!

Is it Phoenix1?

00420 · 07-20-2004, 09:54 PM

nice nice nice work.....my friend

how do you think this will grow with the c-99xhaze in the same room?

Capt. Crip · 07-20-2004, 10:09 PM

Hey man ,hope you are well.I ended up growing out 30 F2's and ran into just about the same thing you spoke of in your post.I wanted to let you know that you will find a short pheno when you continue growing the rest out.Out of 18 females,I ended up with 4 that were quite short without the stretch.All the other acted just like you described with very see-through type buds although the bracts were coated in big trichomes.Almost all calaxes and a few single blade leaves on these airy buds. One of my shorties had a pure sativa pattern and over twice as much resin as her nearest rival and the exact odor you descibe.Pepper,spicy,like biting a pine needle!
Tuff to grow ,but don't you just love that strange high?I've only smoked one pin-joint where I took a bud from her last week.Totally blasted,with that lingering odor/flavor,definitely a sativa high that you can really feel,almost like it's as strong as an indica,but all in the head.Mind wandering,what was I going to do,I forgot kinda weed.
Very nice of you to offer the fellas some seed to try!Take care.........................C C

You guys that get seeds,prepare to exercise patience growing these out,but well rewarded in the end!!!!

JLP,your last pics with the trichs and bright orange hairs,,,,that's one of the NH X SSS for sure!!!!!Very nice!!

07-21-2004, 12:30 AM

looks like somethin special.

Your work is much appreciated JLP.

THC

cpt.kush · 07-21-2004, 02:32 AM

JLP...YOUR REP AS A GOOD BREEDER HAS LED ME TO ASK IF YOU COULD PASS SOME OF THOSE MY WAY I MAINLY GROW INDICA DOMINENT PLANTS BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE 4 1/2 FT OF GROW SPACE BUT IV BEEN TRYING TO FIND A GOOD SATIVA DOM PLANT OR SEEDS THAT HAS A SHORT STATURE TO ADD TO MY MOSTLY INDICA COLLECTION

07-20-2004, 06:17 PM	#1
JLP Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 21 Jump St. Posts: 1,130	The Phoenix Project- free Sativa seeds ***THESE SEEDS ARE ALL GONE** Hey everybody, Here's someting I've been working on for a few months now. As some of you may know,our beloved Dutchgrown was raided last year and had her entire grow destroyed by the Dutch police. Most of the confiscated plants were seeded.In particular,she had some Neville's Haze that was pollenated by a NH male and some SSH that was pollenated by the same NH male.After the bust she was able to find some seeds on the floor where the plants had been.DG was gracious enough to send me some of those seeds.The seeds are mixed so there is not much of a way to tell which is NHxNH and which is NHxSSH. For the first batch of seeds I selected my 2 best plants(1 fem 1 male) from the first 6 seeds I germed.Both the female and male showed sex at around 30 days.Both were extremely branchy and stretchy.The fem stopped stretching at about 60 days. The fem took 16 weeks to flower and finished about 5 feet tall. The long flower time is somewhat off set by the fact that I put them into flower right after they germed.I grew theses under a 12/12 light cycle.You might be able to reduce flowering by scaling back to a 10/14 light cycle.These are not easy to manage indoors but nothing is impossible if you flower early enough and top them very well.These will probably require some mid-flower pruning or bending for indoor growers.The buds are somewhat airy,not the greatest bag appeal,but the seem to roll and smoke just fine. They produce little smell in the grow.The flavor is kind of spicy/peppery,understated.This is probably the most Sativa plant I've grown.Until recently I didn't have the vertical room to grow them,but I always wanted to. The high is extremely clear,especially in comparision to Indicas and Hybrids.It's like getting drunk without your tounge getting thick.It takes a little getting used to.At first you kind of underestimate how high you are,until you try to do something. I didn't notice any paranoia or intense speediness.Overall I found it to be a very pleasant change of pace. Anyway,if you like some free seeds just PM me with a safe addy.EDITTHESE SEEDS ARE ALL GONE.** Phoenix 1 will be the first in a series of seeds from these genetics,hopefully. Here's some pics of the seedmother and father. JLP **THESE SEEDS ARE ALL GONE***** Last edited by JLP; 08-18-2006 at 01:33 AM..
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07-20-2004, 06:36 PM	#2
friendlyfriend Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Holiday Inn Posts: 1,237	holy mackerel! line me up for some of those ! and let the good times roll
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07-20-2004, 07:04 PM	#3
homegrownsweets Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: East coast Posts: 479	once again JLP another nice cross. you seem to amaze us with your quality genetics. Peace
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07-20-2004, 07:09 PM	#4
KRS Juan Smarmy Fuck Jr. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 795	Just call me Macgyver! Oh wait that was the Phoenix Foundation. Sativa's for all! JLP owns. -KRS Juan- __________________ Self appointed "King of Kush"
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07-20-2004, 07:12 PM	#5
TheIO Dirt Farmer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North West Posts: 234	The discription of the high sounds SUPER!!! I would love to try some of that! Theio __________________ "Everything to excess. Moderation is for monks." - Lazarus Long
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07-20-2004, 08:35 PM	#6
Joemutt1978 Clone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: A Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 461	Have you got a name picked out yet? Thats my favorite part of making seeds, naming the cross! Is it Phoenix1? __________________ Begun, this clone war has. Click here to see who is winning the Clone War Last edited by Joemutt1978; 07-20-2004 at 08:37 PM..
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07-20-2004, 09:54 PM	#7
00420 full time daddy Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,148	nice nice nice work.....my friend how do you think this will grow with the c-99xhaze in the same room? __________________ [00420]positive side [tokinsmokin] WOW how the hell do u know this [00420] [tokinsmokin]ur blowing my mind here dude this is some fuckin technical shit ur tellin me [00420] done?> [tokinsmokin]alright ur a genius [tokinsmokin]u kind of scare me here man, u answer pretty much every question i've had so far and not only answer it but answer it with the correct answer
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07-20-2004, 10:09 PM	#8
Capt. Crip Strain Seeker/Mirage Reading Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: reading mirage at 1000 meters... Posts: 3,911	JLP Hey man ,hope you are well.I ended up growing out 30 F2's and ran into just about the same thing you spoke of in your post.I wanted to let you know that you will find a short pheno when you continue growing the rest out.Out of 18 females,I ended up with 4 that were quite short without the stretch.All the other acted just like you described with very see-through type buds although the bracts were coated in big trichomes.Almost all calaxes and a few single blade leaves on these airy buds. One of my shorties had a pure sativa pattern and over twice as much resin as her nearest rival and the exact odor you descibe.Pepper,spicy,like biting a pine needle! Tuff to grow ,but don't you just love that strange high?I've only smoked one pin-joint where I took a bud from her last week.Totally blasted,with that lingering odor/flavor,definitely a sativa high that you can really feel,almost like it's as strong as an indica,but all in the head.Mind wandering,what was I going to do,I forgot kinda weed. Very nice of you to offer the fellas some seed to try!Take care.........................C C You guys that get seeds,prepare to exercise patience growing these out,but well rewarded in the end!!!! JLP,your last pics with the trichs and bright orange hairs,,,,that's one of the NH X SSS for sure!!!!!Very nice!! Last edited by Capt. Crip; 07-20-2004 at 10:12 PM..
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07-21-2004, 12:30 AM	#9
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	looks like somethin special. Your work is much appreciated JLP. THC
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07-21-2004, 02:32 AM	#10
cpt.kush Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 170	JLP...YOUR REP AS A GOOD BREEDER HAS LED ME TO ASK IF YOU COULD PASS SOME OF THOSE MY WAY I MAINLY GROW INDICA DOMINENT PLANTS BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE 4 1/2 FT OF GROW SPACE BUT IV BEEN TRYING TO FIND A GOOD SATIVA DOM PLANT OR SEEDS THAT HAS A SHORT STATURE TO ADD TO MY MOSTLY INDICA COLLECTION
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