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Harry Gypsna · 10-17-2006, 10:19 PM

Well, finally, Im back from the world of the non-growing and getting something together to get self sufficient again-which is a good thing considering there is practaically zero in the way of buddage to be bought in uk after the previous fortnight of nationwide PERSECUTION..

Ok, right now, im running a 400 watt halide, soon to be swapped for a grolux, im using an RVK125 for extraction, 6 inch cooltube, and a carbon filter. walls insulated with reflektix and coveed with black and white poly sheet.
The production s all going to be hydro, my mums in soil(bonsai)

The hashberries were planted on 21st of september and all were up within 36 hours...

I didnt wait to put them in the 4 inch rockwool and they were ok...

The last 2 pics were taken at 3 weeks old on october 12th Nice and Squat as you can see. these will be vegged a few more weeks, cloned and then flowered, Keeping my fingers crossed for one male so i can make some Hashberry F2's my personal use in the future, as well as maybe dusting one of the Kali mist clones which are in the propagator to see what happens.
I have knocked together a little drip setup to veg these Hashberries in, they`are still being hand watered as yet.

13 CM square pots, some drippers and a simple gravel tray which i drilled a few holes in the bottom to drain back to the res, and added an overflow just in case.
The plants will be fed by 1 dripper each, Hydro flood drippers-flood meaning they dont have a fixed or adjustable flow rate-it depends on ur pump, which in this case is just a little 100-400 litre per hour Sicce micra, set at full flow. The seedlings will be going into this as soon as i get a new digi timer tomorrow as the one ove got has become unreliable in the sense that after it has switched on and off a few times it will suddenly decide that this time when it switches the pump off after a feed it is going to reset-completely to factory condition, as in blank, which is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. The pots will be filled with clay pebbles. Its only a small res, like 20-25 litres so ill be changin it out every 3 days to keep a real tight reign on the EC/PH considering the samll volume.... Im going to be experiemnting with recycling the soloution after res changes to feed my mums-after correct dilution and ph adjustment of course....

Now, the Satori clone, all pics taken at the weekend

This plant has been a very tough cookie, I topped her pretty much as soon as she rooted, then broke one of the tops off-she was a single stem again, so after she healed she was topped again and here she is.... I am expecting great things from this lady..... Dodgy looking leaves are from a slightly too high ec i believe and have since been remedied. I think im ging to have to spilt a rockwool cube and wrapping it around the stem half buried in the LECA as the LECA is providing no support at all even for this small clone
I havent decided if im going to SCROG her yet, i have a perfect screen on legs to use which is art of one of those mini greenhouses that you put a growbag in the bottom of, ill be deciding soon.
The Bubbler she is in was drip fed for the 1st week or so until some roots emerged through the netpot at which point i removed the dripper.
And finally, just for the sake of it, my Kalicahkra bonsai motherplant, who is ready for a root pruning and pe-potting to new soil and a larger pot

This plant will be given to a friend to flower after the next flush of cuts and will be replaced with a new clone.....
Ill be updating this thread at least once a week, and will get a bit more detailed and organised once its in full swing and the moms are outta there and into their own little spot so i can begin blooming in this space.
So there you have it.....Return of the gypsna
Be lucky now

MandalaMike · 10-18-2006, 12:48 PM

Hi Harry,

This has taken me by surprise...lol
Great set-up you have now, quite a jump from your last grow I would say. You have been doing some homework.

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Originally Posted by Harry Gypsna

walls insulated with reflektix and coveed with black and white poly sheet.

Just for info: mylar has greater reflective power.

What nutes are you running them on? EC levels?

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Originally Posted by Harry Gypsna

The seedlings will be going into this as soon as i get a new digi timer tomorrow as the one ove got has become unreliable in the sense that after it has switched on and off a few times it will suddenly decide that this time when it switches the pump off after a feed it is going to reset-completely to factory condition, as in blank, which is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

LOL... I completely symphathize with you. Timers for home use are low quality from most manufacturers.

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Originally Posted by Harry Gypsna

The pots will be filled with clay pebbles. Its only a small res, like 20-25 litres so ill be changin it out every 3 days to keep a real tight reign on the EC/PH considering the samll volume.

Good idea.

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Originally Posted by Harry Gypsna

This plant has been a very tough cookie, I topped her pretty much as soon as she rooted, then broke one of the tops off-she was a single stem again, so after she healed she was topped again and here she is.... I am expecting great things from this lady.

She's certainly perked up and is doing fine. Looking forward to what she has to offer.

Till later,
Mike

Harry Gypsna · 10-18-2006, 05:02 PM

hi Mike thanks for the kind words...lol, havent got a grow partner holding me back now......
Mylar will be added later, i think ill be trying the new Diamond stuff, have you seen it?
Ill be back later to tell you all the Ec stuff, just logged on quick an thought id reply to you mate.
Be lucky

GMT · 10-18-2006, 05:10 PM

Hi Harry, good to see you growing again. One question, maybe two. Did you use the top and remove - back to single cola, method to control hight from the start, or was it a change of heart, or perhaps a drop and snap accident?

Harry Gypsna · 10-18-2006, 08:00 PM

Dropping snapping accident mate lol......

10-18-2006, 08:44 PM

Will be watching this with interest have some hashberry seeds ordered. I also grow under a 400w grolux so will be interesting to see what you can do!
Good luck with the grow!
~neilspotshop

Speeding Mullet · 10-19-2006, 09:06 PM

Just thought I'd drop in on the old stomping ground and say hi to everyone!
Looks nice Harry Gypsna, Will be keeping a beedy eye on this one, as have been thinking about another Mandala strain recently!
Will be keeping in contact from time to time dropping in to see whats going down, but still very busy! Just got back into the anti persecution business myself now, and I can tell you its been drier than a nuns nasty where I am aswell, so I thought I'd do my bit!
See you all soon, hopefully with a new Kalichakra/Hashberry/something else grow if all go's to plan (I've got something rather larger up my sleeve!)
SM

Harry Gypsna · 10-20-2006, 11:21 AM

Hi there...just dropping a few pics....
1st the DWC Satori

shes on EC 1.20, and im trying to keep the PH around 5.8.... I use Vita-Link nutrients which ive found to be very good. so good that for my soil grows i can make up nutes with my 7.2-7.4 PH tap water and it brings it to a perfect 6.5 every time-which also means less acid used in the hydro too!
Im pleased at the growth of the Satori as she has pretty much doubled since the last time..... I do think she's stretching a tiny bit due to light distance...im going to have to stand the DWC on something to raise it up to the level of the other system(which is currently just being used to stand everything else on but will be running shortly) and this should do the trick.
Now here are a couple of Kalichakra clones...

Poor little buggers got frazzled when i fed em from the wrong jug(had 2 jugs mixed up, 1 high stength and one low-guess which i used) but they are coming round really quick...Both of these are topped but they really seem determined to have a dominant cola as both have allowed one of the shoots to take over as opposed to both growing equally..... I am really looking forward to smoking the kalichakra again as it was a lovely uplifting smoke, great for during the day as you can function but are still mashed lol-as in nicely high but not lazy....
Now come the hashberries

As you can see they are pretty tight with nice rounded leaves and very very good at growing lots of healthy roots........ Now im a bit unsure about the EC really....they were on 1.2, but didnt seem to be right, looking a bit lighter colour and so i upped them to 1.4,, im giving them a flush weekly with PH'd water to combat salt buildup in the rockwool. I know they are pretty good and tight but they definately dont look right, what do you think Mike??, any suggestions mate. They are definately ready to go into that system i rigged for them, and i just got a digital timer to replace the fucked one yesterday so will be putting them in today(friday)( to be fair to that timer-i did get a good 2 years out of it so i suppose i got my moneys worth, ill definately get a cyclestat(can any1 recommend a good 1) when im a bit more fat in the wallet area lol.
I still havent got the heater in so im having a bit of a temp swing in the dark period... going from between 25-28 degrees C with the light on, down to 11/10 degrees C with the light off, waaaay to much difference to my mind so i gotta get that heater in fast....Im going to use a photosensor in the wiring with the thermostat to make sure it only comes on in the dark period as i really dont need any overheating problems.
As you can see i aint got the wall covering finished yet, that will be done before the weekend is over and for the eagle eyed among you, dont worry-that carpet will be covered with some pond liner(after a good spraying with some bifenthrin (a pyrethroid) to kill any nasties that may have gotten in it.)Its purpose is to insulate and pad the floor a bit so nothing is directly on the cold floor.
Im going to let them get a couple more nodes on, then i plan to take their tops off and let em get bushy,the tops will go in glasses of water, labelled regarding which individual the top is from, then the glasses will be put on the window ledge (not visible to street or neighbours) to let these short days identify the gender of them all for me so i can seperate any males at the earliest oppurtunity.
Well, thats it I think...i might post a couple more pics before next week , it depends really if there is anything new to show.
So until im back again, hope you like em, and ill catch you later,
Be lucky every1

EDIT I would just like to add that the pictures of roots flying outta the bottom of the cubes-this is what i was taught is the right time to put them in ur hydro system, not just as soon as 1 root pops out. So if any1 using hydro and cubes wonders why they get a slow startw ehnthey 1st out them in-it could be because ur putting them in too early, just a thought guys...

MandalaMike · 10-20-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Gypsna

Now im a bit unsure about the EC really....they were on 1.2, but didnt seem to be right, looking a bit lighter colour and so i upped them to 1.4,, im giving them a flush weekly with PH'd water to combat salt buildup in the rockwool. I know they are pretty good and tight but they definately dont look right, what do you think Mike?? ... I still havent got the heater in so im having a bit of a temp swing in the dark period... going from between 25-28 degrees C with the light on, down to 11/10 degrees C with the light off, waaaay to much difference to my mind so i gotta get that heater in fast

I think you need to raise the temps during night time! This is freezing for the roots. Up it to at least 21°C. After that they will probably look even better and perk up. In the group pic they look quite fit.
Make sure to measure your drain EC coz this tells you what is in the cubes and if they are using up the nutes or if it's building up to fast.

Cheers, Mike

PS: Thick white polystyrene mats are best for insulating pots against a cold floor.

Sleepy · 10-20-2006, 04:00 PM

tagging along for what looks like a great ride!!

glad to see you back at it, harry!

10-17-2006, 10:19 PM	#1
Harry Gypsna Dirty hippy Bastard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Outside BodyShop, with a Tin Whistle and a dog on a piece of string Posts: 8,157	My mandala plants, Hashberry,Kalichakra/Satori Well, finally, Im back from the world of the non-growing and getting something together to get self sufficient again-which is a good thing considering there is practaically zero in the way of buddage to be bought in uk after the previous fortnight of nationwide PERSECUTION.. Ok, right now, im running a 400 watt halide, soon to be swapped for a grolux, im using an RVK125 for extraction, 6 inch cooltube, and a carbon filter. walls insulated with reflektix and coveed with black and white poly sheet. The production s all going to be hydro, my mums in soil(bonsai) The hashberries were planted on 21st of september and all were up within 36 hours... I didnt wait to put them in the 4 inch rockwool and they were ok... The last 2 pics were taken at 3 weeks old on october 12th Nice and Squat as you can see. these will be vegged a few more weeks, cloned and then flowered, Keeping my fingers crossed for one male so i can make some Hashberry F2's my personal use in the future, as well as maybe dusting one of the Kali mist clones which are in the propagator to see what happens. I have knocked together a little drip setup to veg these Hashberries in, they`are still being hand watered as yet. 13 CM square pots, some drippers and a simple gravel tray which i drilled a few holes in the bottom to drain back to the res, and added an overflow just in case. The plants will be fed by 1 dripper each, Hydro flood drippers-flood meaning they dont have a fixed or adjustable flow rate-it depends on ur pump, which in this case is just a little 100-400 litre per hour Sicce micra, set at full flow. The seedlings will be going into this as soon as i get a new digi timer tomorrow as the one ove got has become unreliable in the sense that after it has switched on and off a few times it will suddenly decide that this time when it switches the pump off after a feed it is going to reset-completely to factory condition, as in blank, which is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. The pots will be filled with clay pebbles. Its only a small res, like 20-25 litres so ill be changin it out every 3 days to keep a real tight reign on the EC/PH considering the samll volume.... Im going to be experiemnting with recycling the soloution after res changes to feed my mums-after correct dilution and ph adjustment of course.... Now, the Satori clone, all pics taken at the weekend This plant has been a very tough cookie, I topped her pretty much as soon as she rooted, then broke one of the tops off-she was a single stem again, so after she healed she was topped again and here she is.... I am expecting great things from this lady..... Dodgy looking leaves are from a slightly too high ec i believe and have since been remedied. I think im ging to have to spilt a rockwool cube and wrapping it around the stem half buried in the LECA as the LECA is providing no support at all even for this small clone I havent decided if im going to SCROG her yet, i have a perfect screen on legs to use which is art of one of those mini greenhouses that you put a growbag in the bottom of, ill be deciding soon. The Bubbler she is in was drip fed for the 1st week or so until some roots emerged through the netpot at which point i removed the dripper. And finally, just for the sake of it, my Kalicahkra bonsai motherplant, who is ready for a root pruning and pe-potting to new soil and a larger pot This plant will be given to a friend to flower after the next flush of cuts and will be replaced with a new clone..... Ill be updating this thread at least once a week, and will get a bit more detailed and organised once its in full swing and the moms are outta there and into their own little spot so i can begin blooming in this space. So there you have it.....Return of the gypsna Be lucky now __________________ Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, and none of these people are very funny.
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10-18-2006, 05:02 PM	#3
Harry Gypsna Dirty hippy Bastard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Outside BodyShop, with a Tin Whistle and a dog on a piece of string Posts: 8,157	hi Mike thanks for the kind words...lol, havent got a grow partner holding me back now...... Mylar will be added later, i think ill be trying the new Diamond stuff, have you seen it? Ill be back later to tell you all the Ec stuff, just logged on quick an thought id reply to you mate. Be lucky __________________ Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, and none of these people are very funny.
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10-18-2006, 05:10 PM	#4
GMT I am, therefore I think Join Date: May 2004 Location: Wonderland Posts: 5,964	Hi Harry, good to see you growing again. One question, maybe two. Did you use the top and remove - back to single cola, method to control hight from the start, or was it a change of heart, or perhaps a drop and snap accident? __________________ When as men, our only guide to right and wrong is the ability or inability to act, we cannot truly call ourselves men. Copyrights on all photographic work are reserved
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10-18-2006, 08:00 PM	#5
Harry Gypsna Dirty hippy Bastard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Outside BodyShop, with a Tin Whistle and a dog on a piece of string Posts: 8,157	Dropping snapping accident mate lol...... __________________ Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, and none of these people are very funny.
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10-20-2006, 11:21 AM	#8
Harry Gypsna Dirty hippy Bastard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Outside BodyShop, with a Tin Whistle and a dog on a piece of string Posts: 8,157	Ok, a few new pics for all to see... Hi there...just dropping a few pics.... 1st the DWC Satori shes on EC 1.20, and im trying to keep the PH around 5.8.... I use Vita-Link nutrients which ive found to be very good. so good that for my soil grows i can make up nutes with my 7.2-7.4 PH tap water and it brings it to a perfect 6.5 every time-which also means less acid used in the hydro too! Im pleased at the growth of the Satori as she has pretty much doubled since the last time..... I do think she's stretching a tiny bit due to light distance...im going to have to stand the DWC on something to raise it up to the level of the other system(which is currently just being used to stand everything else on but will be running shortly) and this should do the trick. Now here are a couple of Kalichakra clones... Poor little buggers got frazzled when i fed em from the wrong jug(had 2 jugs mixed up, 1 high stength and one low-guess which i used) but they are coming round really quick...Both of these are topped but they really seem determined to have a dominant cola as both have allowed one of the shoots to take over as opposed to both growing equally..... I am really looking forward to smoking the kalichakra again as it was a lovely uplifting smoke, great for during the day as you can function but are still mashed lol-as in nicely high but not lazy.... Now come the hashberries As you can see they are pretty tight with nice rounded leaves and very very good at growing lots of healthy roots........ Now im a bit unsure about the EC really....they were on 1.2, but didnt seem to be right, looking a bit lighter colour and so i upped them to 1.4,, im giving them a flush weekly with PH'd water to combat salt buildup in the rockwool. I know they are pretty good and tight but they definately dont look right, what do you think Mike??, any suggestions mate. They are definately ready to go into that system i rigged for them, and i just got a digital timer to replace the fucked one yesterday so will be putting them in today(friday)( to be fair to that timer-i did get a good 2 years out of it so i suppose i got my moneys worth, ill definately get a cyclestat(can any1 recommend a good 1) when im a bit more fat in the wallet area lol. I still havent got the heater in so im having a bit of a temp swing in the dark period... going from between 25-28 degrees C with the light on, down to 11/10 degrees C with the light off, waaaay to much difference to my mind so i gotta get that heater in fast....Im going to use a photosensor in the wiring with the thermostat to make sure it only comes on in the dark period as i really dont need any overheating problems. As you can see i aint got the wall covering finished yet, that will be done before the weekend is over and for the eagle eyed among you, dont worry-that carpet will be covered with some pond liner(after a good spraying with some bifenthrin (a pyrethroid) to kill any nasties that may have gotten in it.)Its purpose is to insulate and pad the floor a bit so nothing is directly on the cold floor. Im going to let them get a couple more nodes on, then i plan to take their tops off and let em get bushy,the tops will go in glasses of water, labelled regarding which individual the top is from, then the glasses will be put on the window ledge (not visible to street or neighbours) to let these short days identify the gender of them all for me so i can seperate any males at the earliest oppurtunity. Well, thats it I think...i might post a couple more pics before next week , it depends really if there is anything new to show. So until im back again, hope you like em, and ill catch you later, Be lucky every1 EDIT I would just like to add that the pictures of roots flying outta the bottom of the cubes-this is what i was taught is the right time to put them in ur hydro system, not just as soon as 1 root pops out. So if any1 using hydro and cubes wonders why they get a slow startw ehnthey 1st out them in-it could be because ur putting them in too early, just a thought guys... __________________ Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, and none of these people are very funny. Last edited by Harry Gypsna; 10-20-2006 at 11:29 AM.. Reason: add summat
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10-18-2006, 08:44 PM	#6
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Will be watching this with interest have some hashberry seeds ordered. I also grow under a 400w grolux so will be interesting to see what you can do! Good luck with the grow! ~neilspotshop
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10-20-2006, 04:00 PM	#10
Sleepy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Posts: 7,590	tagging along for what looks like a great ride!! glad to see you back at it, harry! __________________ Sleepy Test Chemmy Jones Sleepy Tests Jolly Bud from Mountain High Seeds Killer Chem Freebie grow Sleepy Tests OJD...>>>Gangsta Haze *Dead Heads Unite!!* *Come Join Us!!*
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