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billycw · 10-17-2006, 03:24 AM

first off this is the first time i have touched a computer in over a year. i was a member of cw for a long time, and i'm very depressed to hear what happened to that wonderful online community. so thanks to icmag for filling a void in alot of peoples hearts.
let me start by giving you alittle backstory on myself. about 15 years ago i fractured a vertabre in my spine and herniated a disc. ever since then i have lived in constant pain. i was working in a major company for a while but had alot of labor involved. of course my back flared up and was given the option to quit or go on disability. being i don't like taking money for nothing i quit.
i chose to self medicate with marijauna instead of the somas and vicadan my doctors had been feeding me for 6 years. my stomach could not take anymore abuse. its my body i can choose what i put into it.
i chose to grow my own, and as i did i found a small group of sufferers that could use my help. this is what happened next. i might be a little veg on some details to protect myself because i'm still in the middle of it.

ARREST NIGHT:
one night last year after 10pm me and my girlfriend were about to watch a movie when there was a knock at the door. thinking it was a friend or family we opened the door without looking. well it was 2 cops saying that our car had been vandilized, so stupid us we stepped out to look at our cars. right when that door closed behind us, cops came at us with their guns drawn, they told us they susspected that this was a grow house and that we were being detained. i instantly asked for a lawer to be presant, which was ignored, than they started asking a bunch of questions, still out side my house, and we were dening all of it and acting innocent.

next a police car pulls up,the first one the others had parked somewhere and walked, and we were told to get in. at the police station we were put in holding cells of all concrete. if i sat my back hurt, if i stood for a while my back hurt. i was then taken out and questioned extinsively without the miranda being read, without a audio tape, and after asking for my lawer countless times. then the f*** threatens to take my girlfriend, who had no part in the grow, to jail and all the things that will happen to her and he'd make sure of that. so on his word and against my better judgement all i said was its all me. she knows nothing, everything is mine. thats all i would say to him.
next i was taken to jail, without my house even being searched yet or any real evidance. they took my girl back to the house to do the search warrent. the whole time they were ripping my house apart, they were sexually harrasing my girlfriend who had to sit on a chair and watch. they kept on asking her out and making daragatory remarks about me, and at somepoints made graphic sexual inuindos to her and a couple other things i'll leave out.

in all i had over 50 plants going. they took my cars, cameras, computers, dvds, posters, books,grow eqp., pipes, a little money, pictures of my girlfriend, and tons of other useless stuff that had nothing to do with marijauna plants. they just took everything they wanted.

HOW IT HAPPENED:
the cops had a hydroponics store staked out and were profiling customers and following some people leaving. all they saw me with is a co2 tank. that is it. after getting fustrated from watching my house and seeing no illegal activity or traffic of any kind, they also did trash pulles and found nothing, they chose to come to my door.
the warrent which they sent to the judge was all lies. it qoated me saying all kinds of things and also my girlfriend was qoated saying all kinds of things and she never evan talked. on those lies they got their search warrent.
i am facing over 20years if connvicted of all the charges. plea is at 7 years right now. and to this day i have never been read my miranda rights.

on top of that we were told if we charged sexual harrasment on the cops it would just make it harder on ourselves.

CONCLUTION:
watch your self around grow shops and never go to the grow after visiting one, never trust police, and be in a state thats medical friendly, and your guilty until proven innocent.

hope this helps someone avoid a situation like mine for i wish it on no one.

if anyone has any questions i'll try to answer as best i can.

stay safe and keep up the good fight!

robotwithdreams · 10-17-2006, 03:56 AM

my heart really sank reading this. Im so sorry this has happend to you.

THANKS for sharing and I hope you have a real decent lawyer, this is really horrible but not surprising that cops would do that.

I have a couple friends who grow for personnal stash and they thought they were just being paranoid about this kind of thing.

GOOD LUCK and keep us updated if you can

gr0wm4g3 · 10-17-2006, 07:04 AM

Damn, that really sucks man. I hope everybody learns something from this. Always use your peephole.

patrickbateman · 10-17-2006, 07:12 AM

damn thats the craziest bust story ive heard so far... sorry man. flee the country.

10-17-2006, 07:27 AM

im really sorry man, thats absolutely horrible what they did to u two

Lord Doobie · 10-17-2006, 08:14 AM

with over 50 plants, I guess the sickos feel they can abuse you and your g/f anyway they see fit
all the best...but you may wanna simply move to a place where it's decrim...even legal...and just forget this mess

10-17-2006, 09:19 AM

damn man. that fucken sucks ass. almost sounds like a movie. shit i wish it was a movie nobody deserves to go thru some bullshit like that. especially someone like u trying to cure your pain. i have a jaw overgrowth and smoke reefer to cure the pain of that,and just to relax. every time ive smoked weed ive never shown an ounce of aggression. but when im drunk as shit, like now. i get crazy u know its like fuck u LEO. Suck my mother fuckin dick. cuz u can lock us up, u can put us on probation, but mother fuckers y0ou will always be wrong. and we are always going to konw that, and karma will bite those chicken shits right in there ass.

good luck to you and your girl. fffFFFUck the police

Harry Gypsna · 10-17-2006, 11:52 AM

a long winded pst from me wouldnt help you atall so ill just say that is seriously fucked up. Best of luck with it, and a curse of syphiliss on the dirty lying donkey-fucker pigs

billbob · 10-17-2006, 11:52 PM

Good luck. Hope your lawyer does his job. It is sick what really goes on over a plant that is so amazing. Can't believe people allow it to go on. Almost a bad dream if it were not sooo real.

billycw · 10-18-2006, 03:24 AM

thank you for all the well wishes.

some things i left out are they were a state task force. i was the 6 to get caught from this stake out. they used a tatic known as a mailman clause, being where ever the mailman goes they can go. also they were trained from a seminar in canada about grow tatics.

also left out the fact that we were repediatly called murders because, as they tried to say, weed deals alot of the time go bad and people get killed over my weed. i told them i don't sell weed, which is the truth, but of corse they wouldn't listen or believe me.

also when they searched my house they had no respect for anything. it looked as if a bomb went off inside my house. plates on the floor, silverware dumped out, everything in every closet just thown everywere!

they also took all my seeds i had breed that i will never get back. i was working on a afgan x blueberry strain for my back. and also some ssh x tangerine that help one of my friends with migrains.

i haven't fled the country because i still believe i have a good chance of beating this case because of the illeagal search warrent and the miranda violations. it has also been told to me that once you ask for your lawer the interview is supposed to be stoped. if i get out of this believe me i'm moving out of this country that has done me and my g/f so wrong. it feels like ive been violated. and i thought if you flee to amsterdam your not allowed to leave, and i would like to see the world some day. correct me if i'm wrong? also if i win it might help someone else that was caught with simular tatics.

i could also use some help finding some facts about amount of weight per light. i had 2 1000 watts hps hordeluxe and 1 600 watt hps hordeluxe in my flower room and know with out a dought i couldn't have had the amount they said i had. your help would be appretiated. thanks

it has felt like a bad dream that won't end! hopefully some day.

10-17-2006, 03:24 AM	#1
billycw Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,858	busted my unforunate story first off this is the first time i have touched a computer in over a year. i was a member of cw for a long time, and i'm very depressed to hear what happened to that wonderful online community. so thanks to icmag for filling a void in alot of peoples hearts. let me start by giving you alittle backstory on myself. about 15 years ago i fractured a vertabre in my spine and herniated a disc. ever since then i have lived in constant pain. i was working in a major company for a while but had alot of labor involved. of course my back flared up and was given the option to quit or go on disability. being i don't like taking money for nothing i quit. i chose to self medicate with marijauna instead of the somas and vicadan my doctors had been feeding me for 6 years. my stomach could not take anymore abuse. its my body i can choose what i put into it. i chose to grow my own, and as i did i found a small group of sufferers that could use my help. this is what happened next. i might be a little veg on some details to protect myself because i'm still in the middle of it. ARREST NIGHT: one night last year after 10pm me and my girlfriend were about to watch a movie when there was a knock at the door. thinking it was a friend or family we opened the door without looking. well it was 2 cops saying that our car had been vandilized, so stupid us we stepped out to look at our cars. right when that door closed behind us, cops came at us with their guns drawn, they told us they susspected that this was a grow house and that we were being detained. i instantly asked for a lawer to be presant, which was ignored, than they started asking a bunch of questions, still out side my house, and we were dening all of it and acting innocent. next a police car pulls up,the first one the others had parked somewhere and walked, and we were told to get in. at the police station we were put in holding cells of all concrete. if i sat my back hurt, if i stood for a while my back hurt. i was then taken out and questioned extinsively without the miranda being read, without a audio tape, and after asking for my lawer countless times. then the f*** threatens to take my girlfriend, who had no part in the grow, to jail and all the things that will happen to her and he'd make sure of that. so on his word and against my better judgement all i said was its all me. she knows nothing, everything is mine. thats all i would say to him. next i was taken to jail, without my house even being searched yet or any real evidance. they took my girl back to the house to do the search warrent. the whole time they were ripping my house apart, they were sexually harrasing my girlfriend who had to sit on a chair and watch. they kept on asking her out and making daragatory remarks about me, and at somepoints made graphic sexual inuindos to her and a couple other things i'll leave out. in all i had over 50 plants going. they took my cars, cameras, computers, dvds, posters, books,grow eqp., pipes, a little money, pictures of my girlfriend, and tons of other useless stuff that had nothing to do with marijauna plants. they just took everything they wanted. HOW IT HAPPENED: the cops had a hydroponics store staked out and were profiling customers and following some people leaving. all they saw me with is a co2 tank. that is it. after getting fustrated from watching my house and seeing no illegal activity or traffic of any kind, they also did trash pulles and found nothing, they chose to come to my door. the warrent which they sent to the judge was all lies. it qoated me saying all kinds of things and also my girlfriend was qoated saying all kinds of things and she never evan talked. on those lies they got their search warrent. i am facing over 20years if connvicted of all the charges. plea is at 7 years right now. and to this day i have never been read my miranda rights. on top of that we were told if we charged sexual harrasment on the cops it would just make it harder on ourselves. CONCLUTION: watch your self around grow shops and never go to the grow after visiting one, never trust police, and be in a state thats medical friendly, and your guilty until proven innocent. hope this helps someone avoid a situation like mine for i wish it on no one. if anyone has any questions i'll try to answer as best i can. stay safe and keep up the good fight!
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10-17-2006, 03:56 AM	#2
robotwithdreams Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 528	my heart really sank reading this. Im so sorry this has happend to you. THANKS for sharing and I hope you have a real decent lawyer, this is really horrible but not surprising that cops would do that. I have a couple friends who grow for personnal stash and they thought they were just being paranoid about this kind of thing. GOOD LUCK and keep us updated if you can Last edited by robotwithdreams; 10-17-2006 at 03:57 AM..
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10-17-2006, 07:04 AM	#3
gr0wm4g3 Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 87	Damn, that really sucks man. I hope everybody learns something from this. Always use your peephole. __________________ "If you've done things right, people won't be sure if you've done anything at all."
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10-17-2006, 07:12 AM	#4
patrickbateman I like to dissect girls. Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 61	damn thats the craziest bust story ive heard so far... sorry man. flee the country.
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10-17-2006, 07:27 AM	#5
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	im really sorry man, thats absolutely horrible what they did to u two
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10-17-2006, 08:14 AM	#6
Lord Doobie Surrounded by goofs Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Outer Limits Posts: 586	with over 50 plants, I guess the sickos feel they can abuse you and your g/f anyway they see fit all the best...but you may wanna simply move to a place where it's decrim...even legal...and just forget this mess
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10-17-2006, 09:19 AM	#7
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	damn man. that fucken sucks ass. almost sounds like a movie. shit i wish it was a movie nobody deserves to go thru some bullshit like that. especially someone like u trying to cure your pain. i have a jaw overgrowth and smoke reefer to cure the pain of that,and just to relax. every time ive smoked weed ive never shown an ounce of aggression. but when im drunk as shit, like now. i get crazy u know its like fuck u LEO. Suck my mother fuckin dick. cuz u can lock us up, u can put us on probation, but mother fuckers y0ou will always be wrong. and we are always going to konw that, and karma will bite those chicken shits right in there ass. good luck to you and your girl. fffFFFUck the police
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10-17-2006, 11:52 AM	#8
Harry Gypsna Dirty hippy Bastard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Outside BodyShop, with a Tin Whistle and a dog on a piece of string Posts: 8,157	a long winded pst from me wouldnt help you atall so ill just say that is seriously fucked up. Best of luck with it, and a curse of syphiliss on the dirty lying donkey-fucker pigs __________________ Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, and none of these people are very funny.
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10-17-2006, 11:52 PM	#9
billbob Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trichomeville Posts: 220	Good luck. Hope your lawyer does his job. It is sick what really goes on over a plant that is so amazing. Can't believe people allow it to go on. Almost a bad dream if it were not sooo real.
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10-18-2006, 03:24 AM	#10
billycw Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,858	thank you for all the well wishes. some things i left out are they were a state task force. i was the 6 to get caught from this stake out. they used a tatic known as a mailman clause, being where ever the mailman goes they can go. also they were trained from a seminar in canada about grow tatics. also left out the fact that we were repediatly called murders because, as they tried to say, weed deals alot of the time go bad and people get killed over my weed. i told them i don't sell weed, which is the truth, but of corse they wouldn't listen or believe me. also when they searched my house they had no respect for anything. it looked as if a bomb went off inside my house. plates on the floor, silverware dumped out, everything in every closet just thown everywere! they also took all my seeds i had breed that i will never get back. i was working on a afgan x blueberry strain for my back. and also some ssh x tangerine that help one of my friends with migrains. i haven't fled the country because i still believe i have a good chance of beating this case because of the illeagal search warrent and the miranda violations. it has also been told to me that once you ask for your lawer the interview is supposed to be stoped. if i get out of this believe me i'm moving out of this country that has done me and my g/f so wrong. it feels like ive been violated. and i thought if you flee to amsterdam your not allowed to leave, and i would like to see the world some day. correct me if i'm wrong? also if i win it might help someone else that was caught with simular tatics. i could also use some help finding some facts about amount of weight per light. i had 2 1000 watts hps hordeluxe and 1 600 watt hps hordeluxe in my flower room and know with out a dought i couldn't have had the amount they said i had. your help would be appretiated. thanks it has felt like a bad dream that won't end! hopefully some day.
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