Neptune's GROW III, AN vs. GH controlled. - Grow Diaries - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

10-11-2006, 09:36 PM

What up folks, and welcome back to a new start here. This will be a documented diary of the fall season grow, It should be exciting this go around...I will be running the left table on Generahl Hydroponics, my usual formula... The right table on Advanced Nutrients, with a crapload of additives.

The Setup
Four 600w magnetic ballasts running GROWBRIGHT lamps, 95,000 lumens
Four Daystar AC hoods, running an aircooled closed circuit.
Two 3'x6' Tables
Two 70 gallon reservoirs
and a massive irrigation dripper system... lot of work them drippers.

This is a fresh air room, no CO2, no sealing. We roll with the punches and ebb and flow of temperatures in this dealywang. Someday I will seal a room, but not this one.

The medium, and Density
I will be running the krowmobe rockwool setup once again. 4" cubes on the 1'x3' slabs. 9 plants per light, 18 per table. 2 dripper stakes deliver top-feed nutrient to each plant every other day. Irrigation is every other day for 10 minutes throughout the entire cycle. The entire table is flushed HARD every 2 weeks with PH 5.9 tap water. Without the flush, crop failure ensues... salt buildup in rockwool is incredible.

Genetics Genetics Genetics
This round we got some all-star strains...
26 Pot of Gold

3 MK-Ultra (purple)
2 Hashplant
4 Chronic
1 Ken's Granddaddy Purple

I would have liked to run 36 Pot of Gold, but they were not rooted in time, and a friend needed the remainder of the PoG, so I went with some "safety cuttings" that I took, for just this occasion... Normally I do not like to run multiple strains, but this was an emergency... time is ticking for us farmers, ya'know?

My 5th lamp is still 100% Organic, but It will be a little bit of a surprise that I will reveal later... so stick around for that one... going back to the old ways!

All plants on tables will veg for 14-21 days, I will flip when I decide they are ready... some point after 14 days.. The Pot of Gold will dictate flowering time for all; they will all be harvested around 65-68 days. Yeah, quite long... but I put up with it for Pot of Gold.

The veg formulas for both tables is the same, no need to get too crazy and ruin a crop before we get started right? So they are on the following GH regime:

for 60 gallons of water
0-250-500 g m b (modified Lucas Formula)
300ml Hydrogaurd
500ml Diamond dectar(helps control PH when using such a light ppm)

PH 6.0 PPM 500

Empty Room, cleaned up, sanitized, and ready to Grow

1 week veg

AN lineup...

Stick around.... there's going to be drama, laughter, tears, and a lot of hard work... sure to be a good one!!

10-11-2006, 09:42 PM

Sweet! got this one up and runnin, cant wait to see the results!!

10-11-2006, 09:48 PM

Hell yeah Grow them bitches .. neptune .. woot woot!!!

**blazeoneup** · 10-11-2006, 09:51 PM

Good way to see for yourself what an nutes are capable of looks great going to be a nice on here...

Keefhead · 10-11-2006, 09:58 PM

Hey Neptune, this is gonna be a great, and very informative, thread. Big thanks for doing it.

HYDROJUNKIE · 10-11-2006, 10:58 PM

this should be interesting,...ive always wanted to see a side by side with AN and GH,....most commercial growers in my area swear that a good GH nute schedule is all you need and the rest is hype...
ill guess we shall see

I was wondering what size pump your using to run all 36 dripers on one table,...I was thinking of converting to drippers so I wouldnt go through so much nutes...

swill · 10-11-2006, 11:21 PM

I can't wait to see how this turns out...gotta love a simple side by side comparison.

Good luck and keep it up

Bacchus · 10-12-2006, 12:05 AM

I thought you lived on the bottom of the ocean??

Mr GreenJeans · 10-12-2006, 12:30 AM

on an ambitious test grow... this will be a fun ride!

10-12-2006, 12:43 AM

Bacchus my friend! I do live at the bottom of the sea when I'm not working

Swill whats up man, stick around cuz it's gona get hot in here..!

hydrojunkie I'll be happy to be convinced that AN grows better pot, and bigger yeilds... but the way I "feel" about it is as you said, GH is so damn simple, the propensity for errors so low, that every cash cropper would be a fool to make things more difficult with lots of additives. I assure you, growing pot is difficult enough!

hashhead hehehe, more bubble pics coming your way bro.. not to worry! I got BAGS of popcorn nugs, and high quality trim... probably an ounce+ of highgrade bubble coming to a forum near you

blazeoneup Hey brother, good to see you around these parts! I love that stealth bookshelf man, super 007 style !! lol I'm eager to see that room cranked up to full speed!

vhghost hey bro, i'll get to that pm in a while. gotta think aboot that!

sbaegis I have been wanting to do this test for a long time, now is the right opportunity to lay to rest(I HOPE!) the age old debate! I'll be running all strains on each table, for good representation of quality, and yeild from strain to strain. I'll be following a very simple AN formula to ensure I don't fuck anything up... becuase I assure you, my GH formula is stupid simple, and I havn't fucked anything up from day1.

Thanks all for coming in, more updates soon!

Planting THE FIFTH LIGHT very soon now... I know the suspense is killing all of you!!! What could it be?? wtf?

I'LL NEVER TELL! lol

10-11-2006, 09:36 PM	#1
Neptune Guest Posts: n/a	Neptune's GROW III, AN vs. GH controlled. What up folks, and welcome back to a new start here. This will be a documented diary of the fall season grow, It should be exciting this go around...I will be running the left table on Generahl Hydroponics, my usual formula... The right table on Advanced Nutrients, with a crapload of additives. The Setup Four 600w magnetic ballasts running GROWBRIGHT lamps, 95,000 lumens Four Daystar AC hoods, running an aircooled closed circuit. Two 3'x6' Tables Two 70 gallon reservoirs and a massive irrigation dripper system... lot of work them drippers. This is a fresh air room, no CO2, no sealing. We roll with the punches and ebb and flow of temperatures in this dealywang. Someday I will seal a room, but not this one. The medium, and Density I will be running the krowmobe rockwool setup once again. 4" cubes on the 1'x3' slabs. 9 plants per light, 18 per table. 2 dripper stakes deliver top-feed nutrient to each plant every other day. Irrigation is every other day for 10 minutes throughout the entire cycle. The entire table is flushed HARD every 2 weeks with PH 5.9 tap water. Without the flush, crop failure ensues... salt buildup in rockwool is incredible. Genetics Genetics Genetics This round we got some all-star strains... 26 Pot of Gold 3 MK-Ultra (purple) 2 Hashplant 4 Chronic 1 Ken's Granddaddy Purple I would have liked to run 36 Pot of Gold, but they were not rooted in time, and a friend needed the remainder of the PoG, so I went with some "safety cuttings" that I took, for just this occasion... Normally I do not like to run multiple strains, but this was an emergency... time is ticking for us farmers, ya'know? My 5th lamp is still 100% Organic, but It will be a little bit of a surprise that I will reveal later... so stick around for that one... going back to the old ways! All plants on tables will veg for 14-21 days, I will flip when I decide they are ready... some point after 14 days.. The Pot of Gold will dictate flowering time for all; they will all be harvested around 65-68 days. Yeah, quite long... but I put up with it for Pot of Gold. The veg formulas for both tables is the same, no need to get too crazy and ruin a crop before we get started right? So they are on the following GH regime: for 60 gallons of water 0-250-500 g m b (modified Lucas Formula) 300ml Hydrogaurd 500ml Diamond dectar(helps control PH when using such a light ppm) PH 6.0 PPM 500 Empty Room, cleaned up, sanitized, and ready to Grow 1 week veg AN lineup... Stick around.... there's going to be drama, laughter, tears, and a lot of hard work... sure to be a good one!!
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10-11-2006, 09:42 PM	#2
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Sweet! got this one up and runnin, cant wait to see the results!!
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10-11-2006, 09:48 PM	#3
vhGhost Guest Posts: n/a	Hell yeah Grow them bitches .. neptune .. woot woot!!!
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10-11-2006, 09:51 PM	#4
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10-11-2006, 09:58 PM	#5
Keefhead Hash Engineer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sillycone Valley Posts: 692	Hey Neptune, this is gonna be a great, and very informative, thread. Big thanks for doing it. __________________ Keefhead Who says medical patients shouldn't ENJOY their medicine?
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10-11-2006, 10:58 PM	#6
HYDROJUNKIE the idea man Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bay Area,Ca. Posts: 271	this should be interesting,...ive always wanted to see a side by side with AN and GH,....most commercial growers in my area swear that a good GH nute schedule is all you need and the rest is hype... ill guess we shall see I was wondering what size pump your using to run all 36 dripers on one table,...I was thinking of converting to drippers so I wouldnt go through so much nutes... __________________ Do you know someone suffering with a disease or has bad health? Help them now! https://projectgreenlife.com/silverbullet ''There are few things more infuriating than a bureaucratic system that's designed to protect, but because of a misguided sense of purpose, ends up "protecting" people from the things they need the most''.
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10-11-2006, 11:21 PM	#7
swill New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5	I can't wait to see how this turns out...gotta love a simple side by side comparison. Good luck and keep it up
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10-12-2006, 12:05 AM	#8
Bacchus Throbbing Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Under the Douglas Firs Posts: 1,897	I thought you lived on the bottom of the ocean??
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10-12-2006, 12:30 AM	#9
Mr GreenJeans Sat Cat Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Digging at an Arakeen Melange Blow Posts: 3,922	on an ambitious test grow... this will be a fun ride! __________________ Secret to happiness #1 - Love the one you're with. Secret to happiness #2 - Do not eat shit, it makes life stink. Secret to happiness #3 - Grow a nice stash. Flowering now!: ... *!Thanks to my friends!* ...
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10-12-2006, 12:43 AM	#10
Neptune Guest Posts: n/a	Bacchus my friend! I do live at the bottom of the sea when I'm not working Swill whats up man, stick around cuz it's gona get hot in here..! hydrojunkie I'll be happy to be convinced that AN grows better pot, and bigger yeilds... but the way I "feel" about it is as you said, GH is so damn simple, the propensity for errors so low, that every cash cropper would be a fool to make things more difficult with lots of additives. I assure you, growing pot is difficult enough! hashhead hehehe, more bubble pics coming your way bro.. not to worry! I got BAGS of popcorn nugs, and high quality trim... probably an ounce+ of highgrade bubble coming to a forum near you blazeoneup Hey brother, good to see you around these parts! I love that stealth bookshelf man, super 007 style !! lol I'm eager to see that room cranked up to full speed! vhghost hey bro, i'll get to that pm in a while. gotta think aboot that! sbaegis I have been wanting to do this test for a long time, now is the right opportunity to lay to rest(I HOPE!) the age old debate! I'll be running all strains on each table, for good representation of quality, and yeild from strain to strain. I'll be following a very simple AN formula to ensure I don't fuck anything up... becuase I assure you, my GH formula is stupid simple, and I havn't fucked anything up from day1. Thanks all for coming in, more updates soon! Planting THE FIFTH LIGHT very soon now... I know the suspense is killing all of you!!! What could it be?? wtf? I'LL NEVER TELL! lol
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