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Old 08-13-2020, 12:58 AM #1
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Outdoor soil mix

I am reappraising my soil mix for nexr year because I wish to make it lighter in weight to carry. This probably means using less black earth and more composted sheep manure and more light media, i.e. moss, vermiculite & perlite, etc..

Questions: (1) What is the maximum non-feeding media you use, that is, peat etc..? (2) What is the maximum organic feeding stuff, i.e. compost of various types, humus, etc.? Would 20% sheep manure compost be too high?

I'm trying to aim in the direction of light media + compost, or as close as I can get.

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I like 1/3 fluff (peat), 1/3 compost or manures, 1/3 drainage material like perlite or pumace.

I don't think vermiculite has any place in a soil mix.
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I need to add fluff next year this is my 4th year running the same soil without adding to it. I had some issues last year with the way the plants looked so I watered the hell out of my pots before planting this year. Everything looks fine now but I’m def gonna lighten the mix next year. The soil is very heavy almost like clay right now.
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I don't think vermiculite has any place in a soil mix.
I think that whether or not vermiculite is appropriate depends on the climate, therefore the weather, the drainage of the soil in which one is planting, and how often you can get to water it.
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I like 1/3 fluff (peat), 1/3 compost or manures, 1/3 drainage material like perlite or pumace.

I don't think vermiculite has any place in a soil mix.
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I think that whether or not vermiculite is appropriate depends on the climate, therefore the weather, the drainage of the soil in which one is planting, and how often you can get to water it.
Vermiculite turns to mush after a spell = less available oxygen to your roots. But, please feel free to use it if you want.. Your winging everything else!
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I like using Pro-Mix as my base and add manure, bone meal, fish emulsion, bat guano, greensand, etc. when growing outdoors.
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I like using Pro-Mix as my base and add manure, bone meal, fish emulsion, bat guano, greensand, etc. when growing outdoors.
Thanks for that - and for introducing me to greensand! I'd never heard of it. Your mixture sounds very good, but I can't use bone meal or fish or blood meal because my gig features about 3 coyotes per square yard and they dig that stuff up pronto, probably before I get home, so I have to work around those ingredients. In spring I hope to use ProMix and composted sheep manure and not much else, but I'm leaving the last 10% open for consideration. Question: how much (%) of your base ProMix do you use, and which version of ProMix?
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