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cohaze · 07-11-2004, 09:29 PM

Having a tough time with this.

Can someone guide me as to what soil to buy for potting your seedlings and your veg stage?

I recently have been just buying recular potting soil (NPK) 18:10:10 for this one.

Now, my plants are having yellow crawl up the stem and now it's hitting the leaves, I am afraid that I killed them? Or for that matter put them into stress this early!

I do not know what to do? I have been reading about vermiculite and perlite and moss and all these interesting ratios used! But I am still lost.

Is there like one soil I can buy like at wall-mart or something? I just need to make this a simply as possible!

I really wanted it to be organically grown, but that seems like another confusiong bit?

Anything that anyone can help with?
Please. I am a newbie with a hunger to crop!

Thanks

massass789 · 07-11-2004, 10:10 PM

get the shultez garden safe potting soli...i have a pic on my grow thread in bogs section under test grows.always works for me

07-12-2004, 04:33 AM

there are a lot of great soils out there....shultz is one, Fox farm makes soil that is absolutely great, Black and Gold is another one...Schultz is the easiest one to get(depending on where you live)....as far as getting Organic nutes at Wal-mart...I don't know...If your in the states finding good organic soil is as easy as google....

Without pictures or more info, how long they have been growing what lighting etc...it sounds as though your having a Nitrogen problem...Maxicrop makes a liquid seaweed that has a high % of N...spray that on the leaves...should start to see improvement pretty quickly...

Aquaman2112 · 07-12-2004, 04:58 AM

Walmarts Expert soil is cheap and effeicent also jungle growth is at lowes is very airated loose soil

cohaze · 07-14-2004, 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by hillbillieonpcp

Without pictures or more info, how long they have been growing what lighting etc...it sounds as though your having a Nitrogen problem...Maxicrop makes a liquid seaweed that has a high % of N...spray that on the leaves...should start to see improvement pretty quickly...

They have been growing for three weeks now, I have them under 100w of CFL's a piece. Is used Miracle_Grow potting soil.
The NPK was (18:10:10). I do not think it is a lack of nitrogen? Do you? I think it is burnt! The fan leaves (the first bottom ones you see, they are all turned completely yellow! Can this be saved?

Should I repot and rinse?

Please help. my babies!!!

KINGPIN · 07-14-2004, 01:46 PM

SOunds like you burnt them, that soil you are using sounds way to strong for seedlings. Try and get then into something less harsh asap.

Rabbitt-420 · 07-14-2004, 04:12 PM

Yes that soil is way to harsh for those seedlings.
My expert gardener soil is only .14-.08-.08 and its too harsh for seedlings.
Just grab some good soil or get some very cheap soil at wal mart and mix it with perlite.
That will allow the only ferts they get are what you give them.

Hitman · 07-14-2004, 05:24 PM

Wassup, kyou mus tput them in a light mix. Peat moss and perlite and you'll be set. Schultz has a seedstart potting mix and that is what it is comprised of. Plus a very small amount of Phosphorous. After 2-3 weeks transplant to bigger pot. You can give them some seabird guano after a week. But make it 1/4 or 1/2 strength they like that. They're hungry at that age too, just don't over water and don't burn them with too much food.

Happy Growing

Crazy Composer · 07-14-2004, 05:39 PM

We grow very simply, but effectively in a simple soiless mix with perlite added to lighten the mix a bit. We use Pro-Mix or Metro-Mix. And we feed then through watering. This is an extremely easy way to get superb bud IMHO. cc

Robhpx13 · 07-16-2004, 01:58 AM

black gold(reg.)/foxfarm ocean forrest (make your own %)
"remeber that ocen forest is a little less aeriated then black gold, but does bring an abundance of flavor.....

mychrozia
coconut coir
(maybe another aeriator, your choice)
foxfarm nutrients
Superswell bat tea's

"Son I just saved your ass a lot of time and money!!!"

Kabloom if you need to chemi. it but then "you" suck!!!

Only give nuts. every few days.......make sure to leach at the end.

07-11-2004, 09:29 PM	#1
cohaze New Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: L.A. , Massachusetts Posts: 10	Soils and Ferts (newbie) Having a tough time with this. Can someone guide me as to what soil to buy for potting your seedlings and your veg stage? I recently have been just buying recular potting soil (NPK) 18:10:10 for this one. Now, my plants are having yellow crawl up the stem and now it's hitting the leaves, I am afraid that I killed them? Or for that matter put them into stress this early! I do not know what to do? I have been reading about vermiculite and perlite and moss and all these interesting ratios used! But I am still lost. Is there like one soil I can buy like at wall-mart or something? I just need to make this a simply as possible! I really wanted it to be organically grown, but that seems like another confusiong bit? Anything that anyone can help with? Please. I am a newbie with a hunger to crop! Thanks
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07-12-2004, 04:58 AM	#4
Aquaman2112 Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SE USA Posts: 676	Walmarts Expert soil is cheap and effeicent also jungle growth is at lowes is very airated loose soil __________________ Give a Man a Fish and he eats today, Teach a Man to Fish and he will eat a Lifetime! Aquaman2112's Grow Giude
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07-14-2004, 04:12 PM	#7
Rabbitt-420 Plant Slave Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Karma-Ville Posts: 335	Yes that soil is way to harsh for those seedlings. My expert gardener soil is only .14-.08-.08 and its too harsh for seedlings. Just grab some good soil or get some very cheap soil at wal mart and mix it with perlite. That will allow the only ferts they get are what you give them. __________________ I'm back after a 1 year adventure in my own jungle of a life.
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07-14-2004, 05:24 PM	#8
Hitman Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the far off reaches of your mind Posts: 496	Seedlings Wassup, kyou mus tput them in a light mix. Peat moss and perlite and you'll be set. Schultz has a seedstart potting mix and that is what it is comprised of. Plus a very small amount of Phosphorous. After 2-3 weeks transplant to bigger pot. You can give them some seabird guano after a week. But make it 1/4 or 1/2 strength they like that. They're hungry at that age too, just don't over water and don't burn them with too much food. Happy Growing __________________ In Search of Earth's finest nuggets.
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07-14-2004, 05:39 PM	#9
Crazy Composer Mashkiki Gitigay Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 4,018	We grow very simply, but effectively in a simple soiless mix with perlite added to lighten the mix a bit. We use Pro-Mix or Metro-Mix. And we feed then through watering. This is an extremely easy way to get superb bud IMHO. cc __________________ "Just remember, Lahey, what comes around is all around!"
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07-11-2004, 10:10 PM	#2
massass789 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 273	get the shultez garden safe potting soli...i have a pic on my grow thread in bogs section under test grows.always works for me
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07-12-2004, 04:33 AM	#3
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	there are a lot of great soils out there....shultz is one, Fox farm makes soil that is absolutely great, Black and Gold is another one...Schultz is the easiest one to get(depending on where you live)....as far as getting Organic nutes at Wal-mart...I don't know...If your in the states finding good organic soil is as easy as google.... Without pictures or more info, how long they have been growing what lighting etc...it sounds as though your having a Nitrogen problem...Maxicrop makes a liquid seaweed that has a high % of N...spray that on the leaves...should start to see improvement pretty quickly...
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07-14-2004, 01:46 PM	#6
KINGPIN New Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: East Side Posts: 15	SOunds like you burnt them, that soil you are using sounds way to strong for seedlings. Try and get then into something less harsh asap.
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07-16-2004, 01:58 AM	#10
Robhpx13 Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: cali. us Posts: 353	DANK black gold(reg.)/foxfarm ocean forrest (make your own %) "remeber that ocen forest is a little less aeriated then black gold, but does bring an abundance of flavor..... mychrozia coconut coir (maybe another aeriator, your choice) foxfarm nutrients Superswell bat tea's "Son I just saved your ass a lot of time and money!!!" Kabloom if you need to chemi. it but then "you" suck!!! Only give nuts. every few days.......make sure to leach at the end.
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