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Old 06-18-2020, 07:29 PM #1
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How early to smoke males?

Hi Folks,

Did a search but didn’t see much that was relevant. Title says it all, smoking male material is one way of gauging potency when selecting a father for breeding. How early can/should you do this? Do you need to get as close to pollen drop as possible, or can you sample earlier?

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Seriously though, do people do that? Smoke the males? Learn something new every day I guess.
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Don’t they say to reverse the male and smoke the flowers ?
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Don’t they say to reverse the male and smoke the flowers ?
Okay that makes sense! There is a thread over here https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=99597 about that. It's basically the reverse process of using STS to make them ladies if I remember correctly.
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I wouldnt smoke a plant treated with STS............thats just me..........


I would think a male that 8-10 weeks old ought to give you a good potency reference, probably be good for it to be sexually mature.


Many old timers smoke males to test potency........in my mind though........yuck!


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Not sts, ethylene... I think it’s just a fruiting hormone, no nasty chemicals
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Not sts, ethylene... I think it’s just a fruiting hormone, no nasty chemicals
Yeah sts works because it's a copper ethylene inhibitor, if I'm remembering correctly. So if you introduce ethylene it should have the opposite effect. I didn't mean to imply reversing males uses STS sorry.
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lol, simple question was, isnt it ?



grow it to its mature vegetative state usually this is the moment after they showed preflowers in vegetative phase. male flower doesn t produce sigfificant amount of resin,

so i suggest you to grow it as mature as possible than collect sample of top shoots, turn it to flower and collect samples enough from top shoots by like 2 weeks
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lol, simple question was, isnt it ?



grow it to its mature vegetative state usually this is the moment after they showed preflowers in vegetative phase. male flower doesn t produce sigfificant amount of resin,

so i suggest you to grow it as mature as possible than collect sample of top shoots, turn it to flower and collect samples enough from top shoots by like 2 weeks
AgentPothead you killed me with that first post! Love me some Will Ferrell.

WM - I’m with you. Since different plants will show resin at different times, and flower for different lengths of time, they should probably be tested during flower. Now that I’ve thought about it probably right at they point they drop.

Yes, I know a lot of you are laughing or gagging at the thought but it’s an old head method.

For my OD project It won’t be practical to reverse, progeny test, etc. I will save aliquots of pollen from every male and can use it next year based on how progeny look.

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