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sampsonsimpson · 07-10-2004, 01:00 AM

hello again-

i have a question regarding seeds sold by different companies
from the same breeder. I was reading High Times Grow America
and looking at the ad's from all the different distributors. My
question is...h

why does the same strain cost different amounts from different
retailers? as an example, the Great Canadian Seed Co. advertises
Sensi Seeds Afghani #1 for $105, the AAA Seed Co. charges $180.
While seedsdirect charges **$45**!

Are these retailers bound by economies of scale? I.e. the more
they buy the less they are able to charge and still profit.

**Are some of these retailers selling F2 seeds under the
name of the original breeder?

**If so, are F2 seeds less stable, less potent, less vigor?

Anyway, any information would help me sort through this puzzle.

thx
-Sam

07-10-2004, 01:30 AM

I'm not totally sure but it sounds like they have different bulk prices going. Gypsy is such a mover that I'm sure he buys in mass quantities while others can't move that much product. I would think its all economics. Plus one is in North America and the other Europe.

Blatant

sampsonsimpson · 07-10-2004, 01:57 AM

thanks Blatant, thats kinda what i thought. What I didnt realize
is that one is in UK the other in Canada. That makes sensi.

but, do companies sell F2 and represent them as original
genetics?

if so, who has what?

(Gypsy...thats seedsdirect right?)

thanks for the info buddy..

-Sam

07-10-2004, 02:16 AM

I'm not sure who sells F2's I've seen them around and they usually state that. I think Nirvana does F2's but could be wrong. The thing with F2's is that they loose the Vigor of the F1 and have different variations/phenos. Its still a good seed to grow because a good mother can be found either way.

Gypsy=seedsdirect.

Blatant

Pacridge · 07-10-2004, 06:46 AM

I don't know shit about this strain or that strain or what one guy carries as opposed to the other guy. What I can tell you is I had a real good experience with Seeds Direct. I live in the North Western US and was a bit skeptical about order from the UK. I ordered and they showed in something like 10-14 days. Plus they sent me a bonus pack of 12 Skunk seeds. So I'd do bus. with them again if I need seeds.

highlife4me · 07-10-2004, 10:40 AM

sam-
Another reason (a large reason) that some seed companies charge more than others is simple greed. They want to make as much money as possible. They rely on people not doing their homework (i.e. not finding out about seedsdirect) and ordering their product (which is the same). Legality of seeds I believe is the same between Europe and Canada, so there shouldn't be a price difference based on that. Just buy from seedsdirect and you'll be happy, I should've just said that from the start

sampsonsimpson · 07-11-2004, 07:50 AM

Pacridge- did you do anything special regarding your order?
anything regarding payment or shipping that is? p.s. I dont suppose you are in oregon are you?

highlife4me - you would think people in that line of work
would have slighly different priorities than the almighty
dollar...lol...makes sensi to me though.

blatant - thanks buddy. your input is allways helpful

thanks guys

-Sam

highlife4me · 07-11-2004, 10:10 AM

sam-
there a lot of people in the industry who do have different priorities, and you'll meet a lot of them here at the IC Forum

PassTheDoobie · 07-11-2004, 02:23 PM

Sam,

Look, the more you spread out, the more likely you are to get disappointed or worse yet, busted. Can you really ever be sure you aren't sending emails to the DEA? You can be sure that is not the case here. How much pot can any of us grow? If SD don't have it, I don't really need it. I can't grow out all that I am getting there now!

World Peace will become a reality!

T

07-11-2004, 03:10 PM

Sam-

I've ordered from a few different companies, and by far seeds direct beats them all. I ordered from other companies in Canada and they charged me three times what I payed at seeds direct. As far as these ripoff seed companies go, I agree with the previous posts, I think they are just greedy. prob why they advertise in high times, take advantage of people who havent done enough resarch i guess. i used to be one of them... oh well, live and learn.

good luck Sam- seriously though, seeds direct has anything you'd need and they are awesome and remember good genetics=good weed! I noticed if I use a credit card I get my order within like 7 days, if I send a money order it takes more like a couple weeks, and the genetics are totally solid. Grow on buddy

07-10-2004, 01:00 AM	#1
sampsonsimpson Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: im not telling you g'damn FEDS! Posts: 44	Question for veteran growers.... hello again- i have a question regarding seeds sold by different companies from the same breeder. I was reading High Times Grow America and looking at the ad's from all the different distributors. My question is...h why does the same strain cost different amounts from different retailers? as an example, the Great Canadian Seed Co. advertises Sensi Seeds Afghani #1 for $105, the AAA Seed Co. charges $180. While seedsdirect charges $45! Are these retailers bound by economies of scale? I.e. the more they buy the less they are able to charge and still profit. Are some of these retailers selling F2 seeds under the name of the original breeder? If so, are F2 seeds less stable, less potent, less vigor? Anyway, any information would help me sort through this puzzle. thx -Sam __________________ i did'nt sell out.. i bought in
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07-10-2004, 01:30 AM	#2
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	I'm not totally sure but it sounds like they have different bulk prices going. Gypsy is such a mover that I'm sure he buys in mass quantities while others can't move that much product. I would think its all economics. Plus one is in North America and the other Europe. Blatant
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07-10-2004, 01:57 AM	#3
sampsonsimpson Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: im not telling you g'damn FEDS! Posts: 44	AHA thanks Blatant, thats kinda what i thought. What I didnt realize is that one is in UK the other in Canada. That makes sensi. but, do companies sell F2 and represent them as original genetics? if so, who has what? (Gypsy...thats seedsdirect right?) thanks for the info buddy.. -Sam __________________ i did'nt sell out.. i bought in
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07-10-2004, 02:16 AM	#4
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	I'm not sure who sells F2's I've seen them around and they usually state that. I think Nirvana does F2's but could be wrong. The thing with F2's is that they loose the Vigor of the F1 and have different variations/phenos. Its still a good seed to grow because a good mother can be found either way. Gypsy=seedsdirect. Blatant
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07-10-2004, 06:46 AM	#5
Pacridge Sky Pilot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 124	Seeds Direct I don't know shit about this strain or that strain or what one guy carries as opposed to the other guy. What I can tell you is I had a real good experience with Seeds Direct. I live in the North Western US and was a bit skeptical about order from the UK. I ordered and they showed in something like 10-14 days. Plus they sent me a bonus pack of 12 Skunk seeds. So I'd do bus. with them again if I need seeds. __________________ One more time to kill the pain.
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07-10-2004, 10:40 AM	#6
highlife4me Grow Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: the states Posts: 77	sam- Another reason (a large reason) that some seed companies charge more than others is simple greed. They want to make as much money as possible. They rely on people not doing their homework (i.e. not finding out about seedsdirect) and ordering their product (which is the same). Legality of seeds I believe is the same between Europe and Canada, so there shouldn't be a price difference based on that. Just buy from seedsdirect and you'll be happy, I should've just said that from the start
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07-11-2004, 07:50 AM	#7
sampsonsimpson Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: im not telling you g'damn FEDS! Posts: 44	Pacridge- did you do anything special regarding your order? anything regarding payment or shipping that is? p.s. I dont suppose you are in oregon are you? highlife4me - you would think people in that line of work would have slighly different priorities than the almighty dollar...lol...makes sensi to me though. blatant - thanks buddy. your input is allways helpful thanks guys -Sam __________________ i did'nt sell out.. i bought in
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07-11-2004, 10:10 AM	#8
highlife4me Grow Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: the states Posts: 77	sam- there a lot of people in the industry who do have different priorities, and you'll meet a lot of them here at the IC Forum
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07-11-2004, 02:23 PM	#9
PassTheDoobie Bodhisattva of the Earth Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West Coast Posts: 7,767	Just buy from Seeds Direct Sam, Look, the more you spread out, the more likely you are to get disappointed or worse yet, busted. Can you really ever be sure you aren't sending emails to the DEA? You can be sure that is not the case here. How much pot can any of us grow? If SD don't have it, I don't really need it. I can't grow out all that I am getting there now! World Peace will become a reality! T __________________ Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!
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07-11-2004, 03:10 PM	#10
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Sam- I've ordered from a few different companies, and by far seeds direct beats them all. I ordered from other companies in Canada and they charged me three times what I payed at seeds direct. As far as these ripoff seed companies go, I agree with the previous posts, I think they are just greedy. prob why they advertise in high times, take advantage of people who havent done enough resarch i guess. i used to be one of them... oh well, live and learn. good luck Sam- seriously though, seeds direct has anything you'd need and they are awesome and remember good genetics=good weed! I noticed if I use a credit card I get my order within like 7 days, if I send a money order it takes more like a couple weeks, and the genetics are totally solid. Grow on buddy
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