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Old 09-26-2006, 05:13 AM #1
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penalty for clones in the mail

I know if you get caught with seeds in the mail, you just get a letter from customs and the seeds are taken. What if you are getting unrooted cuttings in the mail and get caught? Is the penalty worse?
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:31 AM #2
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What do you think??
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:10 AM #3
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I think the govt. shouldent really care in the first place, but just pass a law that says no one can breed with other peoples clones unless they preserve it themselves and establish a mother plant. That can produce say 50 clones. And if u use a home made male plant to breed with your own motherplant you cant breed past that genetic pheno unless you keep it in your possession or on your property and dont share the new pheno.

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Old 09-26-2006, 08:13 AM #4
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Varies state to state.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:20 AM #5
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I dont know the laws on mailing clones. but dont mail clones using ups or fedex because they are privately owned and can open suspicious packages.. send them usps because they need a federal warrent to open mail.
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Varies state to state.
Why would state law even matter. The mail is FEDERAL.
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:40 AM #7
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send them usps because they need a federal warrent to open mail.

NO they don't.

There is a loophole that allows postal officials to open packages...


"...No letter of such a class of domestic origin shall be
opened except under authority of a search warrant authorized by law, or
by an officer or employee of the Postal Service for the sole purpose of
determining an address at which the letter can be delivered
, or pursuant
to the authorization of the addressee..."

39 U.S.C. 3623(d)

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Old 09-26-2006, 11:55 AM #8
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NO they don't.

They have the same authority as Customs in opening packages.
I thought first class crossing no borders (intrastate) needed a warrant?

Borders on the other hand??

Let me just say that borders are the death of constitutional rights.
So many people get fucked by the fact that you basically lose ALL constitutional rights crossing borders, wether it be in person or in a package.

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Old 09-26-2006, 12:24 PM #9
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NO they don't.

There is a loophole that allows postal officials to open packages...


"...No letter of such a class of domestic origin shall be
opened except under authority of a search warrant authorized by law, or
by an officer or employee of the Postal Service for the sole purpose of
determining an address at which the letter can be delivered
, or pursuant
to the authorization of the addressee..."

39 U.S.C. 3623(d)
Correct me if i am wrong but basically they cant open your package if there is an address on it ? so... if there is an address on the box and they cant open it... with out a fed warrent or your permission... yea thats not rly a loophole because if it is labeled correctly they cant open....

First class domestic mail may be opened, and the contents
inspected, only (1) with the authorization of the addressee, (2)
pursuant to a valid search warrant authorized by law, or (3) by an
officer or employee of the Postal Service for the sole purpose of
determining an address at which the mail can be delivered.


4. Can Postal Inspectors open mail if they feel it may contain something illegal?
First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mailpiece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence, and therefore may be opened without a warrant.

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Old 09-26-2006, 12:39 PM #10
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I would think they'd screw you for interstate MJ distribution, or something equally fucked.
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