The Shanti Mr Nice Arjan Greenhouse story - Mr. Nice Seeds - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

o.gkushowns · 09-22-2006, 04:15 PM

Hey everyone,

I was wondering what you guys knew about it? Are the Himalaya golds, super silver hazes and great white sharks the same or are the different? Did Shanti used to be with greenhouse and than get in some argument with Arjan? Cuz I notice a lot of Arjan is a douche in the forums around here and I wanna know wats up. Also when I'm smoking my shark buds I wanna know who I should be thanking, Shanti or Arjan? thanks
peace

The ocean · 09-24-2006, 05:14 AM

I've read that arjan is amazing grower but not the best breeder.... Well I read it but I don't know if its true...

GreenPiece · 10-03-2006, 01:56 AM

Arjan only cares about profit $$$$$...he basically pirated Shanti's genetics + made them his own: never trust a crook.....

10-03-2006, 02:32 AM

All I know is that Arjans SSH and Shanti's SSH were bred with two different male hazes. So no, they are not the same.

I can't tell you which one is better, but I know Shanti's SSH is top drawer genetics.

10-03-2006, 03:11 AM

if you want the original ssh, shanti is the one still doing that cross with the original parents. no one really knows what greenhouse's parents are. if you want the original, cup-winning ssh, go with shanti.

Capt. Crip · 10-05-2006, 09:37 PM

I have grown many of the new packaged Greenhouse seeds(white Widow,Himalaya Gold,El Nino,one other) and all were of inferrior quality...Actually not a keeper plant in 4 packs of Greenhouse seeds...Even the seeds in the packaging before the new round ones was of inferrior quality..(White Widow)...

Shanti said that he left Arjan the breeder stock for a few varieties(white line)...But did not leave the genetics for SSH and that Nevil is the only one with the genetics for Neville's Haze...So neither are the original; genetics from GH..
Obviously he lost the genetics for the White Lines because the herb sucked and I have grown the original when Shanti still was actively breeding for GH.....It was the Shit!

GreenPiece · 10-06-2006, 06:40 AM

Well said Capt. Crip, "Arjan is a clown"...look at the way he dresses to the HTCC: in a tuxedo!!! ho does he think he is, honestly? The only thing that made him famous is Shanti's genetics and his expensive snobish coffeeshops, that's all. He's a buisiness man $$$$, that's all he is.

GreenPiece · 10-06-2006, 06:43 AM

That's why you don't see GreenHouse in the Vendor Forums on this site, or any site in fact, where r u Arjan?

shantibaba · 10-10-2006, 06:45 PM

Hi All

well most of you are clear about your experiences with Arjan's seed post 1998 when i sold him my half of the company and left to Swiss setting up the Mr Nice Seedbank at the same time.

Since 1998 I must have answered several thousand complaints against Arjan's seed which he sells under GHSco. He will never admit it but he lost or killed most all plants that were left to him so he basically buys in seed from Ingemar(which is unpredictable at best) or tries to avoid true breeding by using hormones to feminize seed. The reason he feminizes seed is two fold, one it sells well to beginners or people wanting to only get females, and two because he has no idea of what male to breed with...nor does he have the males so as an alternative use the hormones to make seed from the female...a job anyone can do. The only problem now will come when people grow his types. And just a small tip for anyone who really wants to know, the loudest sound comes from an empty barrel...that is why he has god knows how many strains named after his own self...is it ego or insecurity...I will leave it to you to figure.

One last thing is if anyone of his internet sites dealt with complaints my life and work load would be so much lighter. A self acclaimed king...but actually a glorified dope dealer nothing more nothing less. Here endeth the story...all the best Sb

10-11-2006, 12:09 AM

I think you chose the "harder" way when you sold your half of the GHSCo. Naturally full clear the reason why did you it. (but every coin has 2 sides..) What do you think was it a really good choice? /to sell your half/ The Greenhouse makes more profit.. Your half nowadays worth much more than when you sold.. You still have all the legendary strains. Full clear that the Mr. Nice Seeds Co has much better strains than GHS but you could also keep up your original strains under the GHS Company. Arjan is just thief.. if you stay (in the past) with the GHSeeds, now Arjan can't be a famous people (cause he made his fame from your seeds)

All the way max respect for your excellent sense to breeding!

Who makes the last limited 150 packs of CM? You or one of your employee?

Could you tell me the difference between the CM and the Shit?

Thanx!

Best regards, NG

09-22-2006, 04:15 PM	#1
o.gkushowns 18 and Doh! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: your backfield Posts: 832	The Shanti Mr Nice Arjan Greenhouse story Hey everyone, I was wondering what you guys knew about it? Are the Himalaya golds, super silver hazes and great white sharks the same or are the different? Did Shanti used to be with greenhouse and than get in some argument with Arjan? Cuz I notice a lot of Arjan is a douche in the forums around here and I wanna know wats up. Also when I'm smoking my shark buds I wanna know who I should be thanking, Shanti or Arjan? thanks peace
	Quote

09-24-2006, 05:14 AM	#2
The ocean Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 32	I've read that arjan is amazing grower but not the best breeder.... Well I read it but I don't know if its true...
	Quote

10-03-2006, 01:56 AM	#3
GreenPiece New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 16	Arjan only cares about profit $$$$$...he basically pirated Shanti's genetics + made them his own: never trust a crook.....
	Quote

10-03-2006, 02:32 AM	#4
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	All I know is that Arjans SSH and Shanti's SSH were bred with two different male hazes. So no, they are not the same. I can't tell you which one is better, but I know Shanti's SSH is top drawer genetics.
	Quote

10-03-2006, 03:11 AM	#5
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	if you want the original ssh, shanti is the one still doing that cross with the original parents. no one really knows what greenhouse's parents are. if you want the original, cup-winning ssh, go with shanti.
	Quote

10-05-2006, 09:37 PM	#6
Capt. Crip Strain Seeker/Mirage Reading Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: reading mirage at 1000 meters... Posts: 3,911	Arjan is a clown! I have grown many of the new packaged Greenhouse seeds(white Widow,Himalaya Gold,El Nino,one other) and all were of inferrior quality...Actually not a keeper plant in 4 packs of Greenhouse seeds...Even the seeds in the packaging before the new round ones was of inferrior quality..(White Widow)... Shanti said that he left Arjan the breeder stock for a few varieties(white line)...But did not leave the genetics for SSH and that Nevil is the only one with the genetics for Neville's Haze...So neither are the original; genetics from GH.. Obviously he lost the genetics for the White Lines because the herb sucked and I have grown the original when Shanti still was actively breeding for GH.....It was the Shit!
	Quote

10-06-2006, 06:40 AM	#7
GreenPiece New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 16	Well said Capt. Crip, "Arjan is a clown"...look at the way he dresses to the HTCC: in a tuxedo!!! ho does he think he is, honestly? The only thing that made him famous is Shanti's genetics and his expensive snobish coffeeshops, that's all. He's a buisiness man $$$$, that's all he is.
	Quote

10-06-2006, 06:43 AM	#8
GreenPiece New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 16	That's why you don't see GreenHouse in the Vendor Forums on this site, or any site in fact, where r u Arjan?
	Quote

10-10-2006, 06:45 PM	#9
shantibaba Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 244	Hi All well most of you are clear about your experiences with Arjan's seed post 1998 when i sold him my half of the company and left to Swiss setting up the Mr Nice Seedbank at the same time. Since 1998 I must have answered several thousand complaints against Arjan's seed which he sells under GHSco. He will never admit it but he lost or killed most all plants that were left to him so he basically buys in seed from Ingemar(which is unpredictable at best) or tries to avoid true breeding by using hormones to feminize seed. The reason he feminizes seed is two fold, one it sells well to beginners or people wanting to only get females, and two because he has no idea of what male to breed with...nor does he have the males so as an alternative use the hormones to make seed from the female...a job anyone can do. The only problem now will come when people grow his types. And just a small tip for anyone who really wants to know, the loudest sound comes from an empty barrel...that is why he has god knows how many strains named after his own self...is it ego or insecurity...I will leave it to you to figure. One last thing is if anyone of his internet sites dealt with complaints my life and work load would be so much lighter. A self acclaimed king...but actually a glorified dope dealer nothing more nothing less. Here endeth the story...all the best Sb __________________ ψ-ψ-ψ-ψ-ψ-ψ-ψ-ψ-ψ-ψ-ψ all the best, Shantibaba
	Quote

10-11-2006, 12:09 AM	#10
New Grower Guest Posts: n/a	I think you chose the "harder" way when you sold your half of the GHSCo. Naturally full clear the reason why did you it. (but every coin has 2 sides..) What do you think was it a really good choice? /to sell your half/ The Greenhouse makes more profit.. Your half nowadays worth much more than when you sold.. You still have all the legendary strains. Full clear that the Mr. Nice Seeds Co has much better strains than GHS but you could also keep up your original strains under the GHS Company. Arjan is just thief.. if you stay (in the past) with the GHSeeds, now Arjan can't be a famous people (cause he made his fame from your seeds) All the way max respect for your excellent sense to breeding! Who makes the last limited 150 packs of CM? You or one of your employee? Could you tell me the difference between the CM and the Shit? Thanx! Best regards, NG Last edited by New Grower; 10-11-2006 at 09:51 PM..
	Quote