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Old 01-26-2019, 01:21 AM #1
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Mexican strain identification

I realize this is an Ace forum, but if you will permit me, I was wondering if anyone is familiar with growing this strain of Cannabis. I mailed the seeds back from Villarta, Mexico. It has a nice Mexican taste, euphoric, great cerebral high. The locals call it "Monkey Shit". I smoked with quite a few of the locals and they all smoke the same thing. They said it was the same weed as long as they can remember, but it takes 6 months to flower and grown in the Sierra Madre Mountains. I mailed the seeds back in 2 envelopes. One made it, the other had crushed powdered seeds. I have 79 good seeds. I popped 5 of them. One hermie, 3 males and 1 female.

Everything about this strain is BIG. Start with the seeds (see pic). The fan leaves are huge. The stalks are hollow and fat. The petiole is long and fat and there is an all green pheno and a purple pheno with all pretty petioles and purple striped stalks, not from cold.

As you can see, everything is huge. I just want to know if this is worth working and cleaning up.
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Old 01-26-2019, 01:51 AM #2
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I should mention, the last pic was taken today, the middle of the 4th week from seed. The other pics were taken a week ago. They were given 2 days of darkness last weekend and put out in the greenhouse to flower. Early male banana's can reach a full centimeter in length.
Did I say big?
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:46 AM #3
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I am growing two different Mexican modern strains. Both look like yours. Mine are Lime Green and Zacatecas. Fat leaves and stocky so crossed with Afghan as I am sure yours are. Euphoric and nice high from the Zacatecas and somewhat spiritual.

Almost everything down there is indica crossed sad to say. Still you can find good ones. The super trip weed of old is there somewhere still I think.
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You have that caquita de chango spanish for monkey shit. If you have ever been to the zoo monkey shit has a distinct weed like skunky aroma that's why the name is monkey shit it's probably 6 months from seed to finished flower I doubt this will take 6 months flowering
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It looks like the Indicas are starting to conquer the world. I wouldn't recognize that as a Mexican strain unless it was pointed out to me.
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Hi SolarLogos,

They don't look like the old pure mexican sativas from yesteryear, they look more like the new sativa/indica mixes so widely spread around most parts of Mexico since the late 80s.
Anyway, your plants look super healthy and have great hybrids traits, hope they show interesting sativas traits during flowering and in the finished product.

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Old 01-27-2019, 01:50 AM #7
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I am growing two different Mexican modern strains. Both look like yours. Mine are Lime Green and Zacatecas. Fat leaves and stocky so crossed with Afghan as I am sure yours are. Euphoric and nice high from the Zacatecas and somewhat spiritual.

Almost everything down there is indica crossed sad to say. Still you can find good ones. The super trip weed of old is there somewhere still I think.
Funny that you mentioned Lime Green and Zacatecas, because I smoked and talked with these guys for the week I was there and one of them mentioned both Lime Green and Zacatecas when we were talking about this strain, but with my Spanish and his English, some things weren't completely understandable.
We booked a trip to Jamaica, but I heard it's getting commercialized too. Might have to do the taxi thing.


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You have that caquita de chango spanish for monkey shit. If you have ever been to the zoo monkey shit has a distinct weed like skunky aroma that's why the name is monkey shit it's probably 6 months from seed to finished flower I doubt this will take 6 months flowering
That is great information to know, thanks a lot. I'm hoping it only takes a couple of months of flower. If so, I'll do an open pollination and keep my eyes out for a good keeper for making hybrids.




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Hi SolarLogos,

They don't look like the old pure mexican sativas from yesteryear, they look more like the new sativa/indica mixes so widely spread around most parts of Mexico since the late 80s.
Anyway, your plants look super healthy and have great hybrids traits, hope they show interesting sativas traits during flowering and in the finished product.

Best wishes with them!
I too had heard that a lot of the weed in Mexico were crossed with Indica, but I haven't been down there to see in a while. Once they finish flowering, I'll give you a quick update and see if it was all worth while.
Thank you everyone for your input. I certainly feel like I may know, or have a better idea of what I have.
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That seed is awesome! Looks kinda like an Ace seed. AKA how its supposed to be. Im lovin it!

After slight experience buying seeds, I realized that Ace Seeds are the best. They germinate way better than the competition and look great too. I read you keep the stock fresh. Keep up the good work.

PS im growing Ace Seeds right now. Woot woot!
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The color of the stem and petioles, the shape of the leaves and the plants, rings a bell in my mind. I know I've seen something Mexican very similar in the 90s but there's too many bong hits in the intervening years to place it. There's rare wide-leaf Mexican strains that pre-date the influx of the modern hybrids in the 90s. Grown in the mountainous regions. I remember dark purple coloring and a tendency to show intersex traits. Amazing and exotic smell ranging from rank to fruity.

Of course it's unlikely that this is it. Mexican Indicas have always been extremely rare. However you rarely see this deep a purple among the modern hybrids. They'll turn purple from cold or show purple highlights but it's rare to see the deep dark purple like these plants. And the old Mexican purple sativas were a treat I wish I had one of those!

Keep us informed how it goes! I'm very curious to see how this strain turns out.
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Monkey Shit update

It has been just over 7 weeks since I put these girls outside and flipped the lights in the flower room. It took almost 5 weeks just to show hairs after going from the veg room to flower room and greenhouse. They have been slow, but they are finally starting to stack up the buds and there are quite a bit of sugar leaves. They finally stopped stretching, but there is the one narrower leave pheno that I think is still stretching. We were gone for a few days and the change was very noticeable, so I expect things to start moving along hopefully.
They are pretty untamed. A lot of overgrowth/over-branching, vertical branching and I have one plant that has two branches coming out of the same knuckle on each side of the main stalk on the bottom. I'm not cleaning out the branches right now, just more or less observing to see how they go.
Two have pink/magenta? pistils, some are compact, others taller, more narrow leafed. One actually smells like juicyfruit gum or blueberry gum, but still with that funk in the background. A couple have a nice sweet smell, but for the most part, they stink! When I walk in the greenhouse, I'm hit with a rotten skunky smell.



Most of the wide main shader leaves are gone and the leaves on this one are more narrow leaf.






Way over-crowding, very branchy.






I'm not sure if the cooler temps at night can cause the pinkish pistils?


This one stretched forever. Hope it is finally done!


Some early sugar on top.


I'll try to get some more picks up in a week or two when the flowers start to take more shape.
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