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Rico Swazi · Aug 18, 2019

made a mistake of planting clover and alfalfa together earlier this spring for a chop and drop. The clover outgrew the alfalfa in every stand that came up thru the mulch. I expected the other way around.

comfrey hasn't been watered at all this year after being cut in the spring. Very hardy once established.
Another plant growers should consider growing their own.

TychoMonolyth · Aug 18, 2019

Rico Swazi said:
made a mistake of planting clover and alfalfa together earlier this spring for a chop and drop. The clover outgrew the alfalfa in every stand that came up thru the mulch. I expected the other way around.

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comfrey hasn't been watered at all this year after being cut in the spring. Very hardy once established.
Another plant growers should consider growing their own.

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Was just looking at this
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Microbeman · Aug 18, 2019

Rico Swazi;8647856 Re: sedge said:
It is more an issue in my grass/clover area so landscape cloth is not an option.

Microbeman · Aug 18, 2019

I just bottled some EM ferment to use as a probiotic for my dog and me. I put in glass bottles once fermentation is finished. I use smaller bottles for the least exposure to air with each use/dose.
The darker stuff is just with molasses, water and EM; the other is made with grape juice, molasses and EM [& water]. The dog does not get the grape juice ferment. Next time, I'm going to try grapefruit juice.

The regular recipe did not turn as orange as previously but you can still see a tinge to it. It might influenced by a number of factors, lower wattage CFL, water, stock culture.

h.h. · Aug 21, 2019

TychoMonolyth · Aug 21, 2019

Brand new pure grey clay for my seed bombs was gratefully exposed by the ministry while working on the watershed drainage.

h.h. · Aug 21, 2019

I always wanted to do a flash mob in a parking lot where the landscaping was torn out and food planted. Do seed bombs with spinach seed...

Rico Swazi · Aug 22, 2019

Flash mob making hooglies out of a parking lot, I like it!

the before and after pics are cool too hh

Here is the food forest humble beginnings a couple years ago with a few volunteers along for the ride. I soon realized the bed wasn't big enough to suit my needs so last year I moved everything fifteen feet to what you see now in the last pic

Rico Swazi · Aug 22, 2019

TychoMonolyth said:
Was just looking at this
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yep, comfrey yarrow in a bucket to soak = good stuff

but you don't have to

I've found top dressing with the leaves particularly useful as mulch. Pics from a couple years ago
I've mulched the hooglie in the above pic with comfrey leaves in the same way earlier this year.
Proof in the pudding is in how it grows

worms and plants love the stuff
I encourage you and others to start growing comfrey yarrow nettle alfalfa et al if you are not doing so.

saves me a a bunch of money on noots :biggrin:

h.h. · Aug 23, 2019

Microbeman said:
I just bottled some EM ferment to use as a probiotic for my dog and me. I put in glass bottles once fermentation is finished. I use smaller bottles for the least exposure to air with each use/dose.
The darker stuff is just with molasses, water and EM; the other is made with grape juice, molasses and EM [& water]. The dog does not get the grape juice ferment. Next time, I'm going to try grapefruit juice.

The regular recipe did not turn as orange as previously but you can still see a tinge to it. It might influenced by a number of factors, lower wattage CFL, water, stock culture.

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I did the ice chest light bulb thing per your other postings.
Somebody stole it.
Who the hell would steal something like that?
Jonesing for that purple l guess.

Hookahhead · Aug 23, 2019

h.h. said:
Who the hell would steal something like that?
Jonesing for that purple l guess.

I wonder what went through their minds when they realized it wasn’t meth...

h.h. · Aug 23, 2019

Thought it was amaranth until I researched it.
Have it soaking with some alfalfa I trimmed up.
Some poultry manure out of the broader, a little sugar, and some yeast flakes.

[YOUTUBEIF]https://youtu.be/YnU1njrBK7o[/YOUTUBEIF]

h.h. · Aug 23, 2019

http://returntonature.us/stalking-the-curly-dock-rumex-crispus/

h.h. · Aug 24, 2019

Mullein

Cowboy toilet paper)

I also left out chemicals and compounds found in other parts of Verbascum thapsus L.

ALUMINUM Leaf 1,090 ppm;
ASCORBIC-ACID Leaf 776 ppm;
ASH Leaf 86,000 ppm;
BETA-CAROTENE Leaf 43 ppm;
CALCIUM Leaf 13,300 ppm;
CARBOHYDRATES Leaf 803,000 ppm;
CHROMIUM Leaf 14 ppm;
COBALT Leaf 128 ppm;
FAT Leaf 13,000 ppm;
FIBER Leaf 111,000 ppm;
IRON Leaf 2,360 ppm
MAGNESIUM Leaf 3,230 ppm;
MANGANESE Leaf 120 ppm;
PHOSPHORUS Leaf 5,700 ppm;
POTASSIUM Leaf 13,200 ppm;
PROTEIN Leaf 108,000 ppm;
RIBOFLAVIN Leaf 1.1 ppm;
SILICON Leaf 74 ppm;
SODIUM Leaf 760 ppm;
TIN Leaf 12 ppm;
WATER Leaf 786,000 ppm;
ZINC Leaf 4 ppm;

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You can compost them green or dried, another way to use these leaves is to dry them then grind them and just sprinkle the powder like it was bone meal.
We are going to use this method for the squashes and tomatoes this year. I have somewhere around 17 plants that are 7 years old, every year they get bigger and I get more leaves from them.

http://organicgroup.freeforums.net/thread/474/using-mullein-leaves-compost-fertilizer

CannaRed · Aug 24, 2019

Mullen makes a good smoke to ease asthma and lung issues

Microbeman · Aug 24, 2019

h.h. said:
Mullein Cowboy toilet paper)

https://organicgroup.freeforums.net/thread/474/using-mullein-leaves-compost-fertilizer

Something appears very wrong with this link/info from a discussion forum. Mullein is a biennial plant which dies after the second year [unless there is some magic of which I am unaware] therefore the author's statement; " I have somewhere around 17 plants that are 7 years old, every year they get bigger and I get more leaves from them. " sounds like a complete fabrication.

h.h. · Aug 24, 2019

Sugar and sedge.
https://www.hunker.com/12002586/how-to-use-sugar-to-kill-yellow-nutsedge

Microbeman · Aug 24, 2019

h.h. said:
I did the ice chest light bulb thing per your other postings.
Somebody stole it.
Who the hell would steal something like that?
Jonesing for that purple l guess.

Where did they steal it from? Your porch?

h.h. · Aug 24, 2019

Microbeman said:
Something appears very wrong with this link/info from a discussion forum. Mullein is a biennial plant which dies after the second year [unless there is some magic of which I am unaware] therefore the author's statement; " I have somewhere around 17 plants that are 7 years old, every year they get bigger and I get more leaves from them. " sounds like a complete fabrication.

It is a forum.
However:
https://www.bhg.com/gardening/plant-dictionary/perennial/mullein/

Microbeman · Aug 24, 2019

h.h. said:
Sugar and sedge.
https://www.hunker.com/12002586/how-to-use-sugar-to-kill-yellow-nutsedge

This sounds like a formula for trying to kill off all vegetation. It might be just as effective to use the black plastic method. I'm trying the out compete with clover [maybe alfalfa too]. Maybe I'll experiment with molasses but in the past, grass seemed to love it.

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