[BushyOldGrower]

Interesting old thread. Dr" Jay had a high CDB strain clone of my sweet Cindy.

What is considered high CBD now? I need to get a high CBD strain tested.

You know my sour bubble and lifesaver or sour lifesaver can be great for pain and the high cog in sour bubble makes the pain killing effects last longer. CBG is .9 and CBN is .04

The thc was 23.5 in the last test but we had a total resin weight of 30.5 which would indicate higher thc around 27 minimum. The last test was at 53 days flowering.

I miss Doc may he RIP...Bog

[The Hatter]

I thought I would add a couple of strains I find useful to this list.

Nepalese Jam:

It's a sativa but it isn't particularly racy and works well for stomach issues and decently for pain. It's a bit dreamy but it definitely doesn't leave you in a drooling stupor unlike a lot of the painkilling strains I have tried. It has a nice sociable effect and makes you want to do things unless you smoke too much. Its not particularly good for sleep but it doesn't really keep you up either.

Destroyer:

This strain is a pure sativa and works well for my migraines. It is strong and stimulating and elevates mood. It leaves you functional and motivated unless you smoke too much in which case its a bit too trippy to keep yourself organized and on task. Other than migraines it does little for pain. It works well for nausea but doesn't really give me the munchies. It can prevent you from sleeping much like caffeine if you smoke it too late in the day.

[Lemon Larry]

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[cutant]

Since it controls nausea, can't this be used to control chemo induced nausea and vomiting? There may be an added advantage as an antidepressant for these patients. Is it already used this way?

[BushyOldGrower]

We will all try to continue his good work...

[The Hatter]

Originally Posted by cutant

Since it controls nausea, can't this be used to control chemo induced nausea and vomiting? There may be an added advantage as an antidepressant for these patients. Is it already used this way?

I think that would be a good use for strains like Destroyer and Nep Jam along with other uplifting Sativas. I know a there are quite a few patients including myself that prefer Sativas for there mood lifting effects and the fact that they tend to be more clear headed. I actually avoid most indicas due to the mental side effects. Heavy indicas will often make me listless, apathetic and more depressed. They sometimes leave me in a stupor that I find quite unpleasant.

I think like all medicines, it varies a lot from person to person so everyone will be different but most patients I have known who have tried Nep Jam and Destroyer seem to agree that they are good daytime medicine and that they have an uplifting effect on mood. I know of one cancer patient that was very fond of Nepalese Jam. She found it excellent all around medicine which soothed her nausea, took some of the edge off her pain and helped her feel better mentally as well.

[Iffy]

Originally Posted by BushyOldGrower

Interesting old thread. Dr" Jay had a high CDB strain clone of my sweet Cindy.

What is considered high CBD now? I need to get a high CBD strain tested.

You know my sour bubble and lifesaver or sour lifesaver can be great for pain and the high cog in sour bubble makes the pain killing effects last longer. CBG is .9 and CBN is .04

The thc was 23.5 in the last test but we had a total resin weight of 30.5 which would indicate higher thc around 27 minimum. The last test was at 53 days flowering.

I miss Doc may he RIP...Bog

Doesn't allowing your plants to go a little 'past' the normal harvest time change the balance of VOC's in favour of CBD & CBN?

[CrazyKoala]

Originally Posted by Tudo

I've found this strain fairly recently in the san jose area. I really need a strain that will help me move focus away from the pain but not stone me too severely or put me to sleep. I'm finding the strains in the 18-20% thc range, based on whatever they do in some dispensaries in sj to determine that. Most recently was one called Thin Mint GS Cookies. That worked pretty good. But just got this one and this one is great. Helps with the pain but it also lifts me up so that I can actually work ( a part of my job is in communications ). It's also very tasty, nice tasting exhale and smooth on the throat. Buds are nicely compacted and appear to store well. So I got a 6 month supply

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If you don't want stoney, sleepy, the unscientific but well established aggregate user consensus is that 'indica' like phenotypes may be stoney, and 'sativas' more clear. I don't want to get into a classification controversy so let's not make things complex with discussions of afghanica or narrow-leaf, broad-leaf, etc., and just talk about indica-like or sativa-like.

Blue dream is a common club favorite. It is more 'sativa'. I wouldn't expect anyone to be too stoned off of it as if they were to smoke the same amount of equally potent paki or afghan kush or hashplant or purp. Less sleepy, less couch-lock, more clear-headed, but at higher intake, anything will put you down.

If you really truly don't care for a high, 3-1 or 2-1 or 3-2 ratio CBD-THC phenotypes are probably of interest. There would be less or little 'high'. CBD-only would not be as effective in pain management, but I would expect different people to have different experiences with the same strain.

It is my opinion that CBD and THC work synergystically for pain management.

[CrazyKoala]

Originally Posted by Iffy

Doesn't allowing your plants to go a little 'past' the normal harvest time change the balance of VOC's in favour of CBD & CBN?

In favor of CBN, yes, in favor of CBD, no.

CBDN is to CBD as CBN is to THC, as in the former are oxidation products with 2 aromatic rings.

Don't ask me what the effects of CBDN are, I don't know. But you can find a lot of literature on CBN.

[Tudo]

Have great luck with Fire OG in san jose not very stoning which leaves me to work but it does have decent pain relief