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Old 05-13-2018, 02:55 AM #1
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Germinating seeds...

Iím just wondering what would be better to germinate some seeds in: either Fox Farms Ocean Forest or Fox Farms Happy Frog...

Iím thinking the Happy Frog would be better ...

Should I cut it with some worm castings...


I usually use Fox Farms Light Warrior which is a seed starter soil, but I ran out of it...
Iím just looking for some help cause I donít wanna burn the seedlings and kill them...

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Iím just wondering what would be better to germinate some seeds in: either Fox Farms Ocean Forest or Fox Farms Happy Frog...

Iím thinking the Happy Frog would be better ...

Should I cut it with some worm castings...


I usually use Fox Farms Light Warrior which is a seed starter soil, but I ran out of it...
Iím just looking for some help cause I donít wanna burn the seedlings and kill them...

Thanx .
Neither. They have too many nutrients and the wrong ratios for seedlings. Try germinating in coco coir or rockwool. That also reduces risks of pathogens.

Both coco coir and rockwool need to be prepared, by having them soak for a day in ph adjusted water (6.0 for coco coir, slightly lower for rockwool). After they emerge, you feed them with 0.2 EC to 0.4 EC of blooming nutrients. The high P and K will put a good root system on your plants and create strong, healthy stems. The lower N will prevent burning of the roots.
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Old 05-13-2018, 05:39 AM #3
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i have planted seedlings sprouted from a paper towel straight into happy frog many times without problems, even 50/50 mix ocean forest happy frog without issues.

the happy frog by itself would be the safest.
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No experience with HF but have read that itís not as hot as FFOF. Either way, go 2:1 or even 1:1 ratio cut with perlite and youíll be fine. I can attest to FFOF being fine for this. And since HF is supposedly not as hot, you should be fine using it too, with either ratio. Just donít cut either with castings. No need. Use perlite. Start in a small container. Years ago laziness led me to germinate seeds directly into a mix of FFOF, FFOPM, FFLW & Perlite, at a 2:1 ratio, without issue. Perlite is the key here, cut appropriately. Best of luck!
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No experience with HF but have read that itís not as hot as FFOF. Either way, go 2:1 or even 1:1 ratio cut with perlite and youíll be fine. I can attest to FFOF being fine for this. And since HF is supposedly not as hot, you should be fine using it too, with either ratio. Just donít cut either with castings. No need. Use perlite. Start in a small container. Years ago laziness led me to germinate seeds directly into a mix of FFOF, FFOPM, FFLW & Perlite, at a 2:1 ratio, without issue. Perlite is the key here, cut appropriately. Best of luck!
Thanks man, yeah I always use FF light warrior for my seedlings in beer cups...

The problem I have is Iím out of both perlite and the light warrior...
I have a few bags of FF happy frog and ocean forest... thatís the only reason I ask... I just donít wanna have to go to the store and buy more soil. Thanks guys
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Germinate straight into mushroom compost. It's gentle fungal community will integrate a seedling with easy and enlightenment
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So did you go with straight Happy Frog? How'd it go? I know I would be nervous going into straight FFOF, but would do it if in a pinch. I've never really found it to be as hot as some claim - during my early years I certainly mixed some soil way hotter than OF
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Germinate straight into mushroom compost. It's gentle fungal community will integrate a seedling with easy and enlightenment
good advice but I would cut the compost with 50% of a good potting mix.
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good advice but I would cut the compost with 50% of a good potting mix.
Maybe 50% of aeration, but fuck most of the sterile, K heavy potting mixes by the names of fox farm and promix.
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