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Old 03-16-2018, 04:47 AM
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I run tea, top dress, through out and feed with organic bottled nutes, I reuse my soil every run so I’d say it’s alive. Maybe if you used veg bloom or maxibloom those seem poisonous to life forms of all kinds.
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I have found worms recently In pots that have been fed at 600 ppm every watering for 2 months. That is a good sign for sure.
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It does not kill them as much as shut them down.

Of course a large shot of a harsh salt will causes problems with microbe health but lower dosages of og bottles will not cause many problems. Look at some of the ferment crowd. They juice the shit out of their plants.

You more have to think about what interaction it is having. It most likely is shutting down valuable microbes that normally release nutrients as the plant calls for them with root exudes.

you are half way back to just feeding the plant and saying fuck the soil. Your plant health and final product will suffer.

Now utilizing critical points of influence to boost production and plant health i am all for.

Just dont think that if you using bottled nutes with the soil food web that you are feeding the soil to feed the plant
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:32 AM
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It does not kill them as much as shut them down.

Of course a large shot of a harsh salt will causes problems with microbe health but lower dosages of og bottles will not cause many problems. Look at some of the ferment crowd. They juice the shit out of their plants.

You more have to think about what interaction it is having. It most likely is shutting down valuable microbes that normally release nutrients as the plant calls for them with root exudes.

you are half way back to just feeding the plant and saying fuck the soil. Your plant health and final product will suffer.

Now utilizing critical points of influence to boost production and plant health i am all for.

Just dont think that if you using bottled nutes with the soil food web that you are feeding the soil to feed the plant

I am trying to switch to 100% organic soil mixes, I just had a bad mix that wouldn't grow anything It took me 3 months to get back on track it was a very bad start to the year. So I figure if I mix it into my promix at 30% strength and feed 30% lower bottle nutrients I can get my feet wet at least with a little organic and use up this mix. It was 42 Gallons, Im down to 24 left. So Im trying to switch to organics but thought maybe its good idea to use bottled nutrients as a crutch to slowly transition.I'm having more problems with the trannies, than my 100% organic mixes on my current vegging run, making me think I should just keep running the healthiest out of all my plants and have some be 100% soillesss and some plants be 100% organic. No more trannies. I won't learn anything that way about 100% organix mixes

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So many opinions, so little science.
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Humans often don't like science when it goes against their beliefs.
The irony is more people are killing their microherd with molasses than they are with standard bottled nutrients.
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Why would anyone want chemicals in their cannabis? You will never get more growth by nuking plants as you will by planting one more seed. Keep it organic, be healthier and enjoy better smoke. Peace brother
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I’ve never seen antibiotics or antifungals listed on cannabis nutes before. I’d err to the negative.
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Why would anyone want chemicals in their cannabis?
It seems you don't really understand.
Organic is chemicals.
Water is a chemical substance.
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Why would anyone want chemicals in their cannabis? You will never get more growth by nuking plants as you will by planting one more seed. Keep it organic, be healthier and enjoy better smoke. Peace brother
Not sure what that was intended for, if me, take a look at one of my recent comments as to why this is my current situation and I why I raise the question.



As for the science of this, I feel many people just like to believe what makes sense to them, others are acting as scientists and reading and researching, but we aren't scientists in labs so all these are more or less still speculation and interpretations. There is a good youtube channel of a guy who has a myth busting series on organic growing, and all around great organic gardener channel, and he's local. Every episode hits it home. He's got a university background and actually creates a hypothesis, carries out the experiment, and does soil tests before and after.

The community always warns about chorine and chloramine killing microbes. He tests that theory out very accurately and unbiased and turns out its not really true at all. I have similar assumptions about bottled nutrients. Once again Im just switching over from synthetic to organic living soil guys.

Having said all that. We aren't academics or lab scientists, but one thing we can do to learn is just side by sides. Which I feel for such a smart & sharing & curious community I don't see a lot of. I will be changing that.



Here is the channel, I learned a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/user/stephenlegaree14
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