[PaulieWaulie]

Just wondering if someone can point me to some proof, I think it might be a myth. Obviously bottled nutes are ready to be absorbed by the plant and can not be broken down by microbes and be part of the soil food web cycle, so Im thinking people started saying it kills the herd, because if there is nothing in your soil, and you only feed bottled nutes than there's not much of a soil food web. But saying that adding a low level of 300-500 ppm of nutrients to your water just straight up instantly kills all millions of bacteria is quite a stretch....

In my case, I was having bad results with my mix. There was something it just wasnt providing for the plants, so I have been feeding Pure Blend Pro at 400ppm and getting good results.
But if this really kills all life in the soil for whatever reason is assumed by some people than whats the point of adding EWC, teas, molasses, Compost, organic amendments etc. if they all be killed anyway.

So wheres some proof fellas. ;P

[Weird]

it is ppm dependent

transitional gardening is the incorporation of both

[iTarzan]

No they don't.

[Granger2]

Depends on which bottled nutes. Earth Juice comes in a bottle, and is organic. It feeds the herd. But other less organic nutes don't necessarily kill off the herd. And yes, the addition of Molasses, etc. feeds the herd even with chem nutes. Good luck. -granger

[J-Icky]

Yeah I remember seeing a study being done on this and the conclusion was that chem nutes didn’t really kill off the micro herd, it just caused it to not grow and expand as much. It was something along the lines that the Micro herd would turn organic material into soluble forms for the plants and the plants would send “signals” to the herd to produce whatever nutes it needed. Once the chem ferts were used the plant no longer sent those signals and in turn the micro herd stopped transferring the organic material into nutes. But once the chem ferts were stopped the micro herd would grow again and go back to its job, it just took a week or two for the populations to return to optimal levels

[Irael]

Is it true that you should not feed organic soil with mineral nutrients like for example BioBizz Soil with Hesi Nutrients?
Do the mineral Fertilizers completely kill off the bacteria in the soil?

[Dog Star]

They kill good amount,thats why plants growed with salts will encounter more problems
or defs in run...

its a same like human body is feeded with antibiotics... soon a organism will encounter
problems cause bad bacteria have better enviroment for thriving..

same happends with plants if you kill with salts all microherd..

Probiotics are answer for all problems,and probiotic regime is usually included in
organic grow... you can tough made combo but salt amounts need to be low
and you need to replenish microherd later to keep media and plant healthy...


Organic grow is all about living soil,if you made good balanced soil mix than no need
for salts of any kind..biochar and worms can help to keep soil bioactive and in good shape
for plants..

[Weird]

there is a treasure house of data out there that details nutrient source and microbiota interactions illustrating benefits and detriments of strategies over many ecosystems and with many cultivars

[shawkmon]

i like tranny growing, i feed soil and the plant

Originally Posted by Weird

it is ppm dependent

transitional gardening is the incorporation of both

[FunkBomb]

I've used bottle nutes for years along with dry mycos/recharge/mammoth p and its great.

-Funk