When there is a nutrient deficency, does Cannabis use all of its stored resources? - Cannabis Botany and Advanced Growing Science - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

larry badiner · 02-09-2018, 02:32 PM

I've been flushing my plants for the past 2 weeks with plain, ph10 water, plants are healthy and the leaves are turning bright yellow, but I'm suspecting a nutrient lock out (which is what I was aiming for)

When Cannabis locks out nutrients, does it consume all stored resources?

Douglas.Curtis · 02-09-2018, 04:08 PM

IMO, based on research and personal experimentation, cannabis is an accumulator. I believe the plant is capable of binding excess and unwanted elements directly to new growth tissue.

Unconverted and solidly fixed. I don't believe mobile/immobile element descriptions apply to these fixed elements.

larry badiner · 02-10-2018, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Douglas.Curtis

IMO, based on research and personal experimentation, cannabis is an accumulator. I believe the plant is capable of binding excess and unwanted elements directly to new growth tissue.

Unconverted and solidly fixed. I don't believe mobile/immobile element descriptions apply to these fixed elements.

I don't know too much botany lol, but you're saying new tissue is the only part that consumes available chemicals?

Douglas.Curtis · 02-10-2018, 05:01 AM

No. Read it again.

Spaventa · 02-10-2018, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by larry badiner

I've been flushing my plants for the past 2 weeks with plain, ph10 water, plants are healthy and the leaves are turning bright yellow, but I'm suspecting a nutrient lock out (which is what I was aiming for)

When Cannabis locks out nutrients, does it consume all stored resources?

Why do you suspect lock out? You been flushing for 2 weeks - thats why they yellowed.

Gr33nSanta · 02-10-2018, 07:05 AM

regardless, I shoot for as faded as possible, whether lock out and whatnot at harvest I want my plants to be starving. I do not always succeed and the weed is often very good with lush green plants but nothing comes close to a fully faded plant.

Spaventa · 02-10-2018, 02:22 PM

You could try flushing with distilled water - it has a much better capacity to leach or wash out salts. Even water with 200 ppm has none of that positive charge to bind to negatively charged molecules like salts. It’s like trying to pick up more stuff when your hands are already full so when you try you even drop some of what you already have. Water does the same if it 200 ppm - it actually leaves stuff, it doesn't collect or clear anything.

A week after starting to use 000 ppm water. All the limescale in my kettle is gone. I guess it went through me but that was a while ago so by now my insides must be as shiny as the inside of my kettle

Douglas.Curtis · 02-10-2018, 05:56 PM

IMO, after 2 weeks of nothing all reserves have been depleted and only the mobile elements are available. I use 0-4ppm r/o. Tap water can have nitrogen, calcium and other elements which can prolong a fade.

trichrider · 02-10-2018, 07:19 PM

i don't flush, i fade. it works for me.
i rarely put anything other than water on them either, all nutrients are already in the medium. occasionally foliar feed if/when problems arise.

bilko · 02-10-2018, 07:30 PM

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larry badiner Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 433	When there is a nutrient deficency, does Cannabis use all of its stored resources? I've been flushing my plants for the past 2 weeks with plain, ph10 water, plants are healthy and the leaves are turning bright yellow, but I'm suspecting a nutrient lock out (which is what I was aiming for) When Cannabis locks out nutrients, does it consume all stored resources? __________________ 6x6x8 tent, 3x300w led, 1x1000w hps, 12 pot flood and drain with a 55 gallon rez, maxigrow/flora nova 5x5x7 tent, 1x600w hps, happy frog soil with plain tap water 2x4x7 tent, 2x300w led, 12 plant sea of green, happy frog soil and plain water
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Douglas.Curtis Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Back in Colorado! Yaay! Posts: 2,260	IMO, based on research and personal experimentation, cannabis is an accumulator. I believe the plant is capable of binding excess and unwanted elements directly to new growth tissue. Unconverted and solidly fixed. I don't believe mobile/immobile element descriptions apply to these fixed elements. __________________ "Secrets to Growing Trichome Dense Cannabis" Now Available in Print! My intentions are noble, pay no attention to my autistic lack of diplomacy.
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Douglas.Curtis Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Back in Colorado! Yaay! Posts: 2,260	No. Read it again. __________________ "Secrets to Growing Trichome Dense Cannabis" Now Available in Print! My intentions are noble, pay no attention to my autistic lack of diplomacy.
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Gr33nSanta Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,024	regardless, I shoot for as faded as possible, whether lock out and whatnot at harvest I want my plants to be starving. I do not always succeed and the weed is often very good with lush green plants but nothing comes close to a fully faded plant. __________________ I only have one speed... it's the speed of thought. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338819
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Spaventa ... Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,505	You could try flushing with distilled water - it has a much better capacity to leach or wash out salts. Even water with 200 ppm has none of that positive charge to bind to negatively charged molecules like salts. It’s like trying to pick up more stuff when your hands are already full so when you try you even drop some of what you already have. Water does the same if it 200 ppm - it actually leaves stuff, it doesn't collect or clear anything. A week after starting to use 000 ppm water. All the limescale in my kettle is gone. I guess it went through me but that was a while ago so by now my insides must be as shiny as the inside of my kettle __________________ ACE New Malawi cross test grow https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....=1#post8189894 Delicious Critical Jack Herer ACE Panama Haze https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=349398
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Douglas.Curtis Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Back in Colorado! Yaay! Posts: 2,260	IMO, after 2 weeks of nothing all reserves have been depleted and only the mobile elements are available. I use 0-4ppm r/o. Tap water can have nitrogen, calcium and other elements which can prolong a fade. __________________ "Secrets to Growing Trichome Dense Cannabis" Now Available in Print! My intentions are noble, pay no attention to my autistic lack of diplomacy.
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trichrider THEORETICAL Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: between CB1 and the singularity. Posts: 7,046	i don't flush, i fade. it works for me. i rarely put anything other than water on them either, all nutrients are already in the medium. occasionally foliar feed if/when problems arise. __________________ "I'm not always a dick...but when I am, I drink cheap beer".
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