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Old 02-02-2018, 10:59 PM #1
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Plant clone directly in large pot?

I'm sure someone has asked this question before but I can't find the thread. I've found research that shows that using pots that are too small hurts plant health (depending on the plant). But I haven't found research suggesting that using pots that are too big hurts plants. I can imagine how large pots could hurt plant development if water and nutrients are not well directed to the roots, but I haven't seen a study that shows that.

My question: why not plant clones directly into the final pot so you can save time by not transplanting and potentially get to flower faster by avoiding plant shocks?

Have any of you done any experiments?
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Old 02-04-2018, 06:16 AM #2
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i usually start in small solo cups after my clones root,then i bump up to 1 gallon pots after 2 weeks and 2 weeks later jump up to 3-5 gallon.Plants generally wont grow much until they root their pot so the transplants have to be on point.You dont want to take a clone directley into a 5 gallon pot because it will take awhile for the said plant to root that pot.



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Old 02-04-2018, 10:31 AM #3
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You will get faster growth up potting. If you have to go straight to large container make sure to just water around the plant, not the whole container.
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:57 AM #4
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I skipped potting up this grow and I always pot up at least 3 times. I went straight from tiny pots to 15 litre pots.

I just watered less for first couple of weeks. I can honestly say i didn't notice any slower growth. I veg until my plants are between 16 and 18 inches high.
They did this in 5 weeks even with me super cropping and doing lst and topping. So exactly the same amount of time as with potting up 3 times.

One thing I did notice though, the roots at harvest weren't as many or as thick.
Not sure if this is anything to do with going straight into big pots though.

I suspect it's something to do with my intake at bottom of tent is pulling in very cold winter
air and that's just been sitting near the bottom around the pots this whole grow.
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4 or 5 weeks growth

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I go from clone to big pot. Just saves the hassle of transplanting. Maybe it wastes some nutrient.
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I have gone back and forth with tomato plants. Up potting thousands of plants is not a lot of fun, but the growth difference is well worth it. With tomatoes being first to market gets you paid big time.

I start in flats, go to one gallon, then 3 gallon and to ground. Plants have flowers when going to ground which in turn gets me the quickest harvestable tomatoes. For the late season varieties I go from flats to 3 gallon. The roots and plants are never as stout as the up potted ones.

Big believer in transplanting. If I need to that is. If not save myself the work.

If you need convincing a side by side is easy to do.

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I got a buddy who drops his clones right from the machine into a 10gl pot of promix and does the whole ring thing where he waters a lil bit more each time

my plants grow faster and stronger and more evenly than his and we run the same cut of glue

I start with cubes, then go to cups or sometimes right to a 1gl pot, then depending on what Im finishing in Ill either go to a 5 and flip after they get rootbound a bit, or maybe throwem in 3's for a longer veg then 7's or 10's to finish

20's work too but arent my style unless cut with heavy perlite/growstones
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When you plant straight into big containers, roots go straight to the container wall, then grow down to the bottom and circle. This leaves much soil in the center of the pot un used.

If you up pot, you avoid this problem.

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*also I've never had transplant shocks, all about making sure your give them the right amount of water right away with good light and proper vpd and you should have no worries

you can use myco/frass/kelp to help, but its not needed
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