plant patents/ IP is there a future in the "strain game"? - Marijuana Strains and Breeding - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

stim · 01-26-2018, 12:22 AM

What are your thoughts on strain IP and patents? I think that with the entry of foreign countries, pharma, university and big business into the game the days of patenting strains may be far gone for small time breeders. I can see the picture looking like countries like Columbia or Peru growing the strains held by large companies for a miniscule price to the consumers (think $3 a gram). Looking at situations like Dr Mahmood of the university of Mississippi who has been hoarding strains for years and years and they were even using the DEA to raid countries to prospectively get those seed/root genetics unavailable to us from decades ago. I see Arjan strain hunting and contributing heavily to growers in Columbia is he looking to maximize the terp and cannabinoid profiles of his greenhouse strains and mix them with some of the hunted genetics to create his own originals and establish his roots in the Columbian growing game? I have heard that Neville is looking to patent his strains as well. Is the cannabis industry going to be like Coca-Cola meaning a proprietary or "secret" recipe held by a corporation using sugar grown cheaply in foreign countries? Is there a place for $15 grams of cannoisseur nug from small businesses or individuals amongst cheap ass high grade grams grown in superb conditions? DJ Short may end up a billionaire if strains are worth as much as a coca-cola recipe this is a pretty big business after all. I'm thinking the Dutch may be planning their big come back via strain owner age and product probably grown in foreign countries. I can see all of us wiped out of the game save a couple of strain vets like DJ short and maybe Sam the skunkman and even then if conditions are favorable and the lawyers can be stopped. I think the future is not in genetics but great growing practices and working for these large corporations unfortunately. Should we never have shared our genetics or can we win the fight by voting with dollars? What are your thoughts? Thanks

mr.brunch · 01-27-2018, 12:30 AM

In my personal, humble opinion...
Fuck em.
We’ve grown what we like and crossed what we like for plenty of years, through decades of prohibition... full illegality.... as if a lil old patent is going to stop us.

MJPassion · 01-27-2018, 01:59 AM

Why does this discussion seem to come up in a new thread every other month or so?

SoulAnnoyed · 01-27-2018, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MJPassion

Why does this discussion seem to come up in a new thread every other month or so?

Ask Skunkman and associates. They make this place stink of corporate takeover of grass roots Cannabis. Can feel it in the air.

mr.brunch · 01-27-2018, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SoulAnnoyed

Ask Skunkman and associates. They make this place stink of corporate takeover of grass roots Cannabis. Can feel it in the air.

What?!?
I am calling heaping steaming bullshit. Corporate takeover of grassroots cannabis? Grow up man. Too many people just repeat unfounded shit they read on the web.

dezman · 01-27-2018, 12:12 PM

Wow man has been ilegal and lots of people grew it, sold... and now people is scared of patents??? Why always skunkman is named in these kind of threats? Any proof of him doing so? Or just gossip?

They can patent whatever they want i will do what i want anyways, why are most of you so afraid? Or should i say paranoid? I just can't understand the same thread over and over, same shit bayer, monsanto, skunkman, now phylos too.

If they do patent them what will change? Are you going to buy their products? I do my own seeds and buy from trusted breeders. So if this happens they can suck my balls. I never thought legalisation will induce this kind of paranoia, maybe it'll be better to keep things ilegal then?

mr.brunch · 01-27-2018, 12:28 PM

^^ well said

rolandomota · 01-27-2018, 02:57 PM

I heard dj short got a patent for blueberry and he is going to sue everyone who stole his genetics...

Koondense · 01-27-2018, 05:50 PM

bunch of bs, as always.

Gram Paw smurf · 01-27-2018, 06:08 PM

Perfect example of the shit ppl come up with when they don't have enough to do, or want to pretend there's ever nothing to do really.
Idle hands... n all that.
Sky's always falling for some chicken shittle or other.

cheers,....................... .............gps

01-26-2018, 12:22 AM	#1
stim Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 158	plant patents/ IP is there a future in the "strain game"? What are your thoughts on strain IP and patents? I think that with the entry of foreign countries, pharma, university and big business into the game the days of patenting strains may be far gone for small time breeders. I can see the picture looking like countries like Columbia or Peru growing the strains held by large companies for a miniscule price to the consumers (think $3 a gram). Looking at situations like Dr Mahmood of the university of Mississippi who has been hoarding strains for years and years and they were even using the DEA to raid countries to prospectively get those seed/root genetics unavailable to us from decades ago. I see Arjan strain hunting and contributing heavily to growers in Columbia is he looking to maximize the terp and cannabinoid profiles of his greenhouse strains and mix them with some of the hunted genetics to create his own originals and establish his roots in the Columbian growing game? I have heard that Neville is looking to patent his strains as well. Is the cannabis industry going to be like Coca-Cola meaning a proprietary or "secret" recipe held by a corporation using sugar grown cheaply in foreign countries? Is there a place for $15 grams of cannoisseur nug from small businesses or individuals amongst cheap ass high grade grams grown in superb conditions? DJ Short may end up a billionaire if strains are worth as much as a coca-cola recipe this is a pretty big business after all. I'm thinking the Dutch may be planning their big come back via strain owner age and product probably grown in foreign countries. I can see all of us wiped out of the game save a couple of strain vets like DJ short and maybe Sam the skunkman and even then if conditions are favorable and the lawyers can be stopped. I think the future is not in genetics but great growing practices and working for these large corporations unfortunately. Should we never have shared our genetics or can we win the fight by voting with dollars? What are your thoughts? Thanks
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01-27-2018, 01:59 AM	#3
MJPassion Observer Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: uni-verse Posts: 5,584	Why does this discussion seem to come up in a new thread every other month or so?
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01-27-2018, 12:12 PM	#6
dezman Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ibiza Posts: 87	Wow man has been ilegal and lots of people grew it, sold... and now people is scared of patents??? Why always skunkman is named in these kind of threats? Any proof of him doing so? Or just gossip? They can patent whatever they want i will do what i want anyways, why are most of you so afraid? Or should i say paranoid? I just can't understand the same thread over and over, same shit bayer, monsanto, skunkman, now phylos too. If they do patent them what will change? Are you going to buy their products? I do my own seeds and buy from trusted breeders. So if this happens they can suck my balls. I never thought legalisation will induce this kind of paranoia, maybe it'll be better to keep things ilegal then?
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01-27-2018, 02:57 PM	#8
rolandomota Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 853	I heard dj short got a patent for blueberry and he is going to sue everyone who stole his genetics...
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01-27-2018, 05:50 PM	#9
Koondense Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,264	bunch of bs, as always. __________________ :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: Zamaldelica x KaliChina under LEDs Pangi and Friends under LEDs Zamal Hashplants and Friends under LEDs Testing ..:: La Buena Hierba ::.. Outdoors
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01-27-2018, 06:08 PM	#10
Gram Paw smurf Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Smurf Village Posts: 349	Perfect example of the shit ppl come up with when they don't have enough to do, or want to pretend there's ever nothing to do really. Idle hands... n all that. Sky's always falling for some chicken shittle or other. cheers,....................... .............gps __________________ Nothing is unpossible!
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