Please help me explain; convicts cannot vote in the US?!

dragongrower · Jan 24, 2018

Hey there.
So I was watching the news and they said Florida is gonna vote to make it possible for convicted people to be able to vote again..

If you have been to prison, you cannot vote anymore?!?!
Holy crap that is un-democratic!!! :O

They also said it is possible to be allowed to vote again, but that it takes around 5 years to get the permit again..??

This I am unable to understand.. Please help me understand the reason for it. Cannot see how there can be a good reason for this..

Peace

exploziv · Jan 24, 2018

Yes, when you get to prison some of your constitutional rights go to the bin for life.

Wendull C. · Jan 24, 2018

In the US, any reason those in power can use to take away your individual liberties and disenfranchise someone, they will use.

It creates a revolving door of felons who cannot find work, end up committing more crimes, and end up back in prison to feed the corporate for profit prisons we have here.

If you can make it without going down again, they are happy taking your right to vote and bear arms.

mean mr.mustard · Jan 24, 2018

Plenty of people vote after doing time.

It depends on the state too.

But there is vested interest in keeping packed prisons overflowing.

If you can't change anything then it will stay the same.

No vote no hope no problem.

Don't forget... It's not personal, just business.

GMT · Jan 24, 2018

Does it really matter? It's not like the one with the most votes,wins anyway.

dragongrower · Jan 24, 2018

wow okay seems crazy to me.. Cant see how those two things are connected, really.. :S

dufous · Jan 24, 2018

The loss of voting rights goes back to ancient times when only men holding property were allowed to vote. Since getting convicted of a crime also resulted in the loss of your property, you lost your voting rights as well.

It's called felony disenfranchisement.

CaptainDankness · Jan 24, 2018

Felons don't even keep their second amendment. If felons had an opportunity to make a real change the prison industrial complex would fall in no time.

Shit, it's very hard for a convicted felon to find a honest job. Thankfully I never got caught, but most of my friends have felony convictions. After a while you can get your rights back, but it ain't easy.

Keep the rich people voting and the poor in prisons.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sTCAUNKBjtI

Gry · Jan 24, 2018

A closer look at the history of [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]disenfranchisement on a state by state basis will show it has a great deal to do with the price of labor.
A well connected individual is often quite able to have all their rights restored, up to and including clearances.

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ambertrichome · Jan 24, 2018

Im in Ky, have a Federal conviction. Did from 97-2009 with the feds. No voting for me.

NON VIOLENT weed growing conviction. NO weapons.

armedoldhippy · Jan 24, 2018

depends on the state, and the crime. in some states felons may apply to regain voting rights after serving sentence/probation etc. in other states you automatically regain them IF your crime was not violent or sexual in nature. some places...you are fucked for life.

Phaeton · Jan 24, 2018

I still vote, not that it makes a difference.
I am on the books for a pipeline explosion that cost $33,000,000 to fix. That made no difference either. The $1,000,000 museum heist was donated to the cause but also made no real impact.
Voting and crime, neither makes an impact on established institutions.

The institutional murder of minorities has an impact, but that is done by the very folks we are trying to get rid of.

I still vote but other activities have slowed due to age and infirmity. I am prepared for one last act but the authorities are waiting for me to die naturally instead of cooperating as they did in the past.

A large part of my attitude is the fact that America has a higher percentage of criminals than any other country on Earth. People being people no matter where they are I blame this on the folks in charge, may they die a horrible death.

This seemed a political thread, normally I only speak of gardening.

HuffnPufferfish · Jan 24, 2018

nobody allows children to vote either

i think thats pretty messed up

~star~crash~ · Jan 24, 2018

dufous said:
The loss of voting rights goes back to ancient times when only men holding property were allowed to vote. Since getting convicted of a crime also resulted in the loss of your property, you lost your voting rights as well.

It's called felony disenfranchisement.

it sure as fuk is!! the system is stacked in favor of those who run it !!!

shithawk420 · Jan 25, 2018

But at the same time illegal's are allowed to vote.buddy of mine got his gun rights back with a pardon from the governor after 20 something years.pulled an OJ Simpson after taking his shit back with a gun from the thief that stole from him.but hey he's legal now and shoots guns and makes bombs with his cop neighbors.whatta world

shithawk420 · Jan 25, 2018

Phaeton said:
I still vote, not that it makes a difference.
I am on the books for a pipeline explosion that cost $33,000,000 to fix. That made no difference either. The $1,000,000 museum heist was donated to the cause but also made no real impact.
Voting and crime, neither makes an impact on established institutions.

The institutional murder of minorities has an impact, but that is done by the very folks we are trying to get rid of.

I still vote but other activities have slowed due to age and infirmity. I am prepared for one last act but the authorities are waiting for me to die naturally instead of cooperating as they did in the past.

A large part of my attitude is the fact that America has a higher percentage of criminals than any other country on Earth. People being people no matter where they are I blame this on the folks in charge, may they die a horrible death.

This seemed a political thread, normally I only speak of gardening.

WTF?need more info if that's ok.that sounds like a hell of a story

Stoner4Life · Jan 25, 2018

there's something you can apply for from every state, in NY state it's called a 'Certificate of Relief from Civil Disabilities' and similarly so in all the other states.

convicts, even felons have a chance to have their right to vote (& own guns) restored if they can show they've been rehabilitated.......

shithawk420 · Jan 26, 2018

just talked to my dad and Buddy.apparently in my state you can vote when you get off parole

dragongrower · Jan 26, 2018

Thanks for clearing things up for me..!

MJPassion · Jan 26, 2018

exploziv said:
Yes, when you get to prison some of your constitutional rights go to the bin for life.

Actually, those Rights are only binned while a ward of the State. All Right are supposed to be restored once ‘time’ is served including parole/probation.

Rights are never permitted.
If you have to have permission, it’s not a Right but rather a privilege.

Please help me explain; convicts cannot vote in the US?!

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