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Tazz11 · 01-22-2018, 05:22 PM

Abducted from their nice little world to be my bitches in a hard core dance to the witches stake , burn little bitches burn !

someone turn on some 70's music and lets fire it up !

how well dose defoliation work .. ?

Tazz11 · 01-23-2018, 07:21 PM

breeding is a lot of hard work ,but you hope to get out what you put into it .. your skills and the time you take to learn ,study and research ,will show in your qualities and the genetics you select .....your abilities to take on any and all multi strains becomes second nature over the years .....how long you have been growing or breeding defines you . but you define the plants & strains you grow each time you put water to the seed or cut that clone ...its up to you if you want to learn with a fine skilled scalp or a double bladed broad axe ..smashing your way threw genetics like big foot in the woods ....lol

Tazz11 · 02-02-2018, 06:49 AM

Black Ghost OG

Tazz11 · 02-02-2018, 06:58 AM

Tutankhamon, AKA King Tut

Tazz11 · 02-02-2018, 07:03 AM

Roulette,Sativa Pheno

Tazz11 · 02-02-2018, 04:05 PM

21 custom DWC in 5 by 8.6 ft ..SCROG with 8 soil fill in ,with twin 55 gallon res . a full automation system , if you grow them to fit the space ! you don't have to take over the market or hit 10ft to get the job done .. control ,reflection of skill level ... abilities and control of environment ,a good stable PH ,and a strong will to learn as you go ...

Tazz11 · 02-09-2018, 03:46 PM

now I have some test and research results for you .. after we have started to define flush and harvest .. we when into a lighting test and light placement for this breeding room , and what's funny is it did not turn out the way we thought it would ,, we define two types of light placement ... 1.(V) center main lighting , 2. (inverted V)two rows of lighting pointing inward at a angle..

I tested these two in the same space with two full sets of lights and 3 types of lighting ...I had HPS 600 , LED 1200 watt, and LED 1000 Watt , we guest that all the lighting together would give the best results ... we were wrong ,,... from a breeders point of view . we found the rotation of the lights work the best we the 600 HPS on one end and the 1200 LED on the other end .. almost no difference between the two types of lighting , very little difference to select one over the other ,

what we did find was interesting ...light height and placement is what defines the best product quality ..when the placement matched up between the two types of lighting the results went beyond the scale ...

what this means is V and inverted V work well alternating or isolation between the two . works best ...

in the first picture you see the inverted V 6x 1000 Watt at a tilt ...they burn about 1800 watts ,, the other center lighting 600 HPS and 1200 LED uses 590 vs 510 right at about 1100 watts over all .. what we are not judging the lighting .. we are studying the finishing products quality ...we found the inverted V at 1800 watts work best for 5 days and then the next 3 days with V lighting ...so the effects of rotational lighting works better then ether by them self's , we tried the lighting in dozens of placements and combinations and none did as well as these two types together in a rotation ...we came up with a little shorter flowering time and little nicer resin production and not as much yield but the effect and quality was far above any thing else we tried ....one joint would get 5 people stoned easy and that was the lowest & weakest plant in the grow ..

we found that ageing of the resin and buds quality had almost nothing to do with what type of lighting it was ...

we found that as expected both types were better then just one but placement had a over all effect on the out come product quality ...

how much light the plant gets above the 900 lux has almost nothing to do with quality ...breeders look for effect resin production , development of plant qualities and stabilization of strain and gender traits ..you lights should be selected to fit your grow space .. type vs watts ..has less effect then height above the canopy ....what it proved was a 100 watt light was to much for this space and when the lighting was placed correctly the product went above the scale ..

what that means is you can put two 1000 HPS in this space but your just going to cook your plants ....

and you would get more quality product from using a better matching system of lighting and placement ...

the old more light the better is BS ...

my twin 1000 HPS set in the box , never needed them ...

the 1200 uses 510 watts . each of the 6 x 1000 uses 310 watts ,

now environment and condition of the plants is a must in all cases ..training is out side the study group ..

IMHO we may never define the facts of all possibilities but as we learn . some guide lines become clear and some things define the products we seek ...

from multi strain to the peak of quality these two lighting placements work best for us ...

Tazz11 · 02-09-2018, 04:02 PM

more pics, let me add if your looking for quality . plant size dose not define quality of resin ... in fact those huge plants you all would like for yield have no chance to get the results we did ...keeping the plants at the best size for your grow and light values did far more for qualities then lights or the best nutrients or soil vs hydro ...good resin production as far as quality & effects goes .had more to do with good health and environment then lighting , medium or nutrients...IMHO

acdc · 02-09-2018, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazz11

Abducted from their nice little world to be my bitches in a hard core dance to the witches stake , burn little bitches burn !

someone turn on some 70's music and lets fire it up !

how well dose defoliation work .. ?

beautiful forest there Tazz11

Tazz11 · 02-09-2018, 04:34 PM

thanks dude, we put a lot of time in working and testing .. but quality is what everyone should be looking for . all that marketing just lowers the standards & stabilization of the strains and genders . I guess its home grown vs the top shelve ...

we found the larger plants did not have as good a effect and peak and lasting power then most of the med range plants . the qualities came in the cool temps more often with good strain traits ....good genetics are only as good as the environment and conditioning of the plants them self's ...(PH) a must !

we are mostly old school smokers and med users ,you get 6 people in one room wait to see who gets stones first ...lol

the high last 4-6 hours and that's the worst plant in the room .. the rest is to stoned to care ....testing a multi strain grow is the hardest part ...

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Tazz11 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: east coast Posts: 70	you can tell when your in Hell , got a lite ! Abducted from their nice little world to be my bitches in a hard core dance to the witches stake , burn little bitches burn ! someone turn on some 70's music and lets fire it up ! how well dose defoliation work .. ? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Tazz11; 02-02-2018 at 03:53 PM..
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Tazz11 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: east coast Posts: 70	breeding is a lot of hard work ,but you hope to get out what you put into it .. your skills and the time you take to learn ,study and research ,will show in your qualities and the genetics you select .....your abilities to take on any and all multi strains becomes second nature over the years .....how long you have been growing or breeding defines you . but you define the plants & strains you grow each time you put water to the seed or cut that clone ...its up to you if you want to learn with a fine skilled scalp or a double bladed broad axe ..smashing your way threw genetics like big foot in the woods ....lol Last edited by Tazz11; 02-02-2018 at 07:43 AM..
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Tazz11 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: east coast Posts: 70	21 custom DWC in 5 by 8.6 ft ..SCROG with 8 soil fill in ,with twin 55 gallon res . a full automation system , if you grow them to fit the space ! you don't have to take over the market or hit 10ft to get the job done .. control ,reflection of skill level ... abilities and control of environment ,a good stable PH ,and a strong will to learn as you go ...
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02-09-2018, 03:46 PM	#7
Tazz11 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: east coast Posts: 70	now I have some test and research results for you .. after we have started to define flush and harvest .. we when into a lighting test and light placement for this breeding room , and what's funny is it did not turn out the way we thought it would ,, we define two types of light placement ... 1.(V) center main lighting , 2. (inverted V)two rows of lighting pointing inward at a angle.. I tested these two in the same space with two full sets of lights and 3 types of lighting ...I had HPS 600 , LED 1200 watt, and LED 1000 Watt , we guest that all the lighting together would give the best results ... we were wrong ,,... from a breeders point of view . we found the rotation of the lights work the best we the 600 HPS on one end and the 1200 LED on the other end .. almost no difference between the two types of lighting , very little difference to select one over the other , what we did find was interesting ...light height and placement is what defines the best product quality ..when the placement matched up between the two types of lighting the results went beyond the scale ... what this means is V and inverted V work well alternating or isolation between the two . works best ... in the first picture you see the inverted V 6x 1000 Watt at a tilt ...they burn about 1800 watts ,, the other center lighting 600 HPS and 1200 LED uses 590 vs 510 right at about 1100 watts over all .. what we are not judging the lighting .. we are studying the finishing products quality ...we found the inverted V at 1800 watts work best for 5 days and then the next 3 days with V lighting ...so the effects of rotational lighting works better then ether by them self's , we tried the lighting in dozens of placements and combinations and none did as well as these two types together in a rotation ...we came up with a little shorter flowering time and little nicer resin production and not as much yield but the effect and quality was far above any thing else we tried ....one joint would get 5 people stoned easy and that was the lowest & weakest plant in the grow .. we found that ageing of the resin and buds quality had almost nothing to do with what type of lighting it was ... we found that as expected both types were better then just one but placement had a over all effect on the out come product quality ... how much light the plant gets above the 900 lux has almost nothing to do with quality ...breeders look for effect resin production , development of plant qualities and stabilization of strain and gender traits ..you lights should be selected to fit your grow space .. type vs watts ..has less effect then height above the canopy ....what it proved was a 100 watt light was to much for this space and when the lighting was placed correctly the product went above the scale .. what that means is you can put two 1000 HPS in this space but your just going to cook your plants .... and you would get more quality product from using a better matching system of lighting and placement ... the old more light the better is BS ... my twin 1000 HPS set in the box , never needed them ... the 1200 uses 510 watts . each of the 6 x 1000 uses 310 watts , now environment and condition of the plants is a must in all cases ..training is out side the study group .. IMHO we may never define the facts of all possibilities but as we learn . some guide lines become clear and some things define the products we seek ... from multi strain to the peak of quality these two lighting placements work best for us ...
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02-09-2018, 04:02 PM	#8
Tazz11 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: east coast Posts: 70	more pics, let me add if your looking for quality . plant size dose not define quality of resin ... in fact those huge plants you all would like for yield have no chance to get the results we did ...keeping the plants at the best size for your grow and light values did far more for qualities then lights or the best nutrients or soil vs hydro ...good resin production as far as quality & effects goes .had more to do with good health and environment then lighting , medium or nutrients...IMHO Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Tazz11; 02-09-2018 at 04:16 PM..
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02-09-2018, 04:34 PM	#10
Tazz11 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: east coast Posts: 70	thanks dude, we put a lot of time in working and testing .. but quality is what everyone should be looking for . all that marketing just lowers the standards & stabilization of the strains and genders . I guess its home grown vs the top shelve ... we found the larger plants did not have as good a effect and peak and lasting power then most of the med range plants . the qualities came in the cool temps more often with good strain traits ....good genetics are only as good as the environment and conditioning of the plants them self's ...(PH) a must ! we are mostly old school smokers and med users ,you get 6 people in one room wait to see who gets stones first ...lol the high last 4-6 hours and that's the worst plant in the room .. the rest is to stoned to care ....testing a multi strain grow is the hardest part ... Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Tazz11; 02-09-2018 at 09:13 PM..
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